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13 minutes ago, nosejob said:

If it were the case G,H and Nolen being gone by 25 as well as both Safeties, I would look to trade to 36 for pick 70 and take Tyleik there.  Then I  take 132 and see how far up I can get from 56 and take Collins or Porter or Jackson depending on how position groups were falling. Then I'm taking 2 5ths and a 6th to see how far up from 62 I can get for another 1 of those 3. 

That's how it's done. Imo, you increase your odds of landing 3 true future starters that way. Staying at 56 and 62 feels like testing and measurables are nice but you don't know if he's going to really put it all together territory.

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With the signing of Tre I feel we don't have a position of true need like in years past. We can now choose BPA from the DBs, and DL in the first two rounds unless a great WR drops. For the QBs this draft feels to me like 2013, nothing that will pan out as special 

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I think we have a significant need at DT (1 Tech).  We have numbers at both safety and CB, but we need significant upgrades at both positions, particularly at free safety (I think Bishop is a strong safety).  

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3 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

I think we have a significant need at DT (1 Tech).  We have numbers at both safety and CB, but we need significant upgrades at both positions, particularly at free safety (I think Bishop is a strong safety).  

My realistic hope  is we draft Kenneth Grant, because that is the easiest upgrade but if the backend of our defense is on lockdown because our DBs are so good I think we can survive a year with the DL we have in place. 

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On 4/9/2025 at 8:26 PM, gonzo1105 said:


 

This is the type of DT the Bills would love. He’s another 3 tech but they did also talk to his teammate Hutchmaker as well. Nebraskas defense was very stout last year but both these Nebraska DTs fit the Bills “DNA”. My guess is they are hoping Robinson is there at 109 or with a trade in the 3rd. Hutchmaker will be a 5-6 round guy if the Bills make that move 

 

love this guy, poor mans JJ Watt, rich mans kyle Williams

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2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

With the signing of Tre I feel we don't have a position of true need like in years past. We can now choose BPA from the DBs, and DL in the first two rounds unless a great WR drops. For the QBs this draft feels to me like 2013, nothing that will pan out as special 

I don’t think White solves the starting CB problem.  I think ideally he and Jackson can hold down CB2 until a rookie can get ready.  His signing might give them the latitude to draft a Revel or Morrison coming off injury and hope that they can be ready by mid-season or maybe they could take Porter and his 8 college starts and have the time to bring him up to speed.  I don’t think White is who they want starting for a full season based on his last several years.  

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On 4/16/2025 at 8:24 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:


I’d be good with Tyleik at 30.  

Starting come to realization that he might be the pick at 30.  Depending on who’s still on board, I might be ok with it too.

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23 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Starting come to realization that he might be the pick at 30.  Depending on who’s still on board, I might be ok with it too.

I like Tyleik Williams, but I think 30 is too high unless the board is completely wiped out - like all the corners Hairston,, Amos, maybe Revel), all the DTs: Harmon, Nolan, Grant, and the DEs including Scourton are gone and finally Golden is gone at WR.  I think Starks would have to be gone, too before I took Williams.  I think of Williams as (at best) 4 years-ago Daquan Jones - he will help against the run and hopefully keep the LBs clean.  With some luck maybe he helps free up Oliver in pass rushes, but I think Williams would be replaced in obvious passing situations.

 

They could surely do worse than Williams and he would help the defense, but I think his ceiling is good starter and run stopper.  Of course, that’s just my opinion based on watching a few of his games (and I am no trained scout).

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9 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I like Tyleik Williams, but I think 30 is too high unless the board is completely wiped out - like all the corners Hairston,, Amos, maybe Revel), all the DTs: Harmon, Nolan, Grant, and the DEs including Scourton are gone and finally Golden is gone at WR.  I think Starks would have to be gone, too before I took Williams.  I think of Williams as (at best) 4 years-ago Daquan Jones - he will help against the run and hopefully keep the LBs clean.  With some luck maybe he helps free up Oliver in pass rushes, but I think Williams would be replaced in obvious passing situations.

 

They could surely do worse than Williams and he would help the defense, but I don’t think his ceiling is good starter and run stopper.  Of course, that’s just my opinion based on watching a few of his games (and I am no trained scout).


I’ll never say never but I think the chances are incredibly slim Williams is the pick. I think they’d take Morrison, Revel amongst others not listed before him. I think there is a chance he’s there at 56 

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26 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:


I’ll never say never but I think the chances are incredibly slim Williams is the pick. I think they’d take Morrison, Revel amongst others not listed before him. I think there is a chance he’s there at 56 

I’m sure they like Morrison, but I think with one of our 2nd rounders, or a trade back from 30.  Morrison has had multiple serious injuries.  The best ability is availability.  Revel I could see at 30.  Imo Bills draft CB and DT with first two picks.  We pick one at 30, then trade up in 2nd for our CB or DT.  DT goes deep in this draft.  Bills will double dip at DT imo

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14 minutes ago, Pete said:

I’m sure they like Morrison, but I think with one of our 2nd rounders, or a trade back from 30.  Morrison has had multiple serious injuries.  The best ability is availability.  Revel I could see at 30.  Imo Bills draft CB and DT with first two picks.  We pick one at 30, then trade up in 2nd for our CB or DT.  DT goes deep in this draft.  Bills will double dip at DT imo

No more injured players drafted. It never seem to work out.

Anyone reps first round pick coming off a major injury ever living up to his potential after rehab?

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16 minutes ago, Pete said:

I’m sure they like Morrison, but I think with one of our 2nd rounders, or a trade back from 30.  Morrison has had multiple serious injuries.  The best ability is availability.  Revel I could see at 30.  Imo Bills draft CB and DT with first two picks.  We pick one at 30, then trade up in 2nd for our CB or DT.  DT goes deep in this draft.  Bills will double dip at DT imo

 

I don't disagree that they will double dip. Morrison is not my first choice but I think he would be ahead of Tyleik Williams on the pecking order for 30 is what I'm saying. I think Morrison will go before Williams in the draft.

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6 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t think White solves the starting CB problem.  I think ideally he and Jackson can hold down CB2 until a rookie can get ready.  His signing might give them the latitude to draft a Revel or Morrison coming off injury and hope that they can be ready by mid-season or maybe they could take Porter and his 8 college starts and have the time to bring him up to speed.  I don’t think White is who they want starting for a full season based on his last several years.  

I don't disagree but I would still prefer a DL first round pick. DT can cover for a the DBs more than the other way around. 

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5 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

If he looks good on that chart, that's good enough for about half this board.

It's just a data point, and I've no idea of the methodology behind it, but I don't think it's necessary to denigrate the attempt. And for certain, in many aspects of life, the qualitative eludes the capture of the quantitative. However, let's just talk about this specific player. Nolen has been talked about as having impressed both in his play, and in the Combine and predraft process. Personally, I've been wary of him because he replicates 3T, which is redundant with Oliver taking a lot of snaps. 

 

This chart indicates a player that is good against both the run and as someone who can provide pressure against the pass. That's not immaterial to me. But, yes, I suppose one could blanket assume that folks are just going to look at a chart and make a snap judgment.

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9 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

My realistic hope  is we draft Kenneth Grant, because that is the easiest upgrade but if the backend of our defense is on lockdown because our DBs are so good I think we can survive a year with the DL we have in place. 

I don't feel the secondary or our lighter and smart fast LBs will much improve with out solving the middle of the D line. To me means tweaking the scheme to just hold steady the line the line of scrimmage inside the tackles. Rotate Oliver in after the C and guards get worn down. and why i want two monsters who can spell each other.

Godspeed Bosa and Groot and some young beasts at DT , I can imagine some wonderful " bad things man" 

7 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t think White solves the starting CB problem.  I think ideally he and Jackson can hold down CB2 until a rookie can get ready.  His signing might give them the latitude to draft a Revel or Morrison coming off injury and hope that they can be ready by mid-season or maybe they could take Porter and his 8 college starts and have the time to bring him up to speed.  I don’t think White is who they want starting for a full season based on his last several years.  

Porter in the second ?

6 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I like Tyleik Williams, but I think 30 is too high unless the board is completely wiped out - like all the corners Hairston,, Amos, maybe Revel), all the DTs: Harmon, Nolan, Grant, and the DEs including Scourton are gone and finally Golden is gone at WR.  I think Starks would have to be gone, too before I took Williams.  I think of Williams as (at best) 4 years-ago Daquan Jones - he will help against the run and hopefully keep the LBs clean.  With some luck maybe he helps free up Oliver in pass rushes, but I think Williams would be replaced in obvious passing situations.

 

They could surely do worse than Williams and he would help the defense, but I think his ceiling is good starter and run stopper.  Of course, that’s just my opinion based on watching a few of his games (and I am no trained scout).

If Williams can be the better healthier Jones ? We would have a win. Good long term investment.

Sure 30 is too soon but.... Ty would likely start and be effective

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Given the depth and talent across the roster, I fully support packaging 3rd-rounders (or more) to move up and secure an impact starter. Realistically, those mid-round picks won’t see the field anytime soon. I’ve never been big on the ‘win now’ mindset—but we’re a Sony HawkEye first down away from the Super Bowl.

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