Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Turbo44 said:

Golden won’t last to 30, prob gone before 20. Im hoping for Harmon, but I could also see grant or Luther burden (I think that’s his name)

Yea I don’t know where all this Golden talk came from , he’s probably the consensus # 1 WR in the draft now. Hes most likely going in the top 20 if not to the Cowboys at 12 

[Warriorspikes51]

18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I don't.

 

He looked toast last year. He struggled against Keon Coleman. That's not even taking into account the full on tragedy that was his run in LA before they moved on from him.

 

That "up to 6.8m" probably has little to no guarantees. I don't think it's a guarantee he even makes the roster. Could be as simple as bringing someone they love and respect into Camp bc he doesn't have any other opportunities.

 

He'll be given a chance. But I don't see a scenario where they're relying on him or changing their Draft plans at all. We'll still Draft someone on Day 1 or Day 2. This is Tre White in name only. He's not remotely close to our Tre White anymore. If he makes the team, it just means Dane Jackson won't.

Sweet! Tre is 2nd Team All-Pro this season now

[BillsFanForever19]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Sweet! Tre is 2nd Team All-Pro this season now

 

Just like Micah Hyde for sure seeing the field, right?

 

You've got 1 on me for Diggs. And ever since then you've posted this on practically *every* post i've made and there hasn't been even ONE instance where what you've countered with has rung true. I've got the reciepts and could list them all off, if you want... 

Edited Friday at 12:24 AM by BillsFanForever19

[Warriorspikes51]

We’ll take all the DTs

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

We’ll take all the DTs

All your tackles are belong to us.

[QLBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Turbo44 said:

I think with Tre resigning the desperate need for a cb at 30 has decreased. I still like one at 56 or 62 but it clearly looks like 30 will be a DT, edge or WR now 

I don’t think it changes the Bills view on 30,56, or 62. If they see a value cb they are going to take one. I would say 85% chance. But it lessens the need for a second cb imho. 

[Steve Billieve]

1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

All your tackles are belong to us.

 

SOMEBODY SET UP US THE BOMB.

[Virgil]

 

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

We’ll take all the DTs

 

ESPN grade 42.  Late round

Edited Friday at 02:10 AM by Virgil

[OldTimer1960]

7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I don't.

 

He looked toast last year. He struggled against Keon Coleman. That's not even taking into account the full on tragedy that was his run in LA before they moved on from him.

 

That "up to 6.8m" probably has little to no guarantees. I don't think it's a guarantee he even makes the roster. Could be as simple as bringing someone they love and respect into Camp bc he doesn't have any other opportunities.

 

He'll be given a chance. But I don't see a scenario where they're relying on him or changing their Draft plans at all. We'll still Draft someone on Day 1 or Day 2. This is Tre White in name only. He's not remotely close to our Tre White anymore. If he makes the team, it just means Dane Jackson won't.

I don’t think it lessens the urgency for a young CB, but White’s resigning might give them enough confidence to take Shavon Revel or Benjamin Morrison knowing that they might not be healthy right away.  

[GunnerBill]

Okay here is where I am at in terms of piecing things together..... I think we can narrow the Bills pick at #30 (or shortly thereafter with a small trade back) down to:

 

Corner: Trey Amos, Maxwell Hariston, Shavon Revel

Edge: Nic Scourton, Shermar Stewart

DTackle: Tyleik Williams

 

Those guys have all be in on 30 visits and with the exception of Kincaid (who I remain convinced was a backup plan at the last minute when Addison went) this regime has always used their first round pick on a guy they have had in for a 30 visit. Add to that none of Harmon, Nolen and Grant have been in and I think DTackle is not their plan at #30. I added Williams to this list because I think if they did shuffle back into the top of the 2nd, say half a dozen picks, then he could be in play there. 

 

I think Shermar Stewart will be gone. I think Revel is an injury risk the type of which they have tended to avoid in the first round so really I think Amos, Hariston and Scourton are the three most likely Bills selections at #30. It will be one of those three guys IMO.  

 

 

EDIT: one caveat - by my count there are 6 top 30 visits unaccounted for. Is it possible the Bille have had Harmon, Nolen and Grant all in and kept it quiet? Possible, but tough in this media age. But a reminder in 2022 the news Elam had been in only came out in the final 48 hours pre-draft.

Edited Friday at 11:35 AM by GunnerBill

[nosejob]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay here is where I am at in terms of piecing things together..... I think we can narrow the Bills pick at #30 (or shortly thereafter with a small trade back) down to:

 

Corner: Trey Amos, Maxwell Hariston, Shavon Revel

Edge: Nic Scourton, Shermar Stewart

DTackle: Tyleik Williams

 

Those guys have all be in on 30 visits and with the exception of Kincaid (who I remain convinced was a backup plan at the last minute when Addison went) this regime has always used their first round pick on a guy they have had in for a 30 visit. Add to that none of Harmon, Nolen and Grant have been in and I think DTackle is not their plan at #30. I added Williams to this list because I think if they did shuffle back into the top of the 2nd, say half a dozen picks, then he could be in play there. 

 

I think Shermar Stewart will be gone. I think Revel is an injury risk the type of which they have tended to avoid in the first round so really I think Amos, Hariston and Scourton are the three most likely Bills selections at #30. It will be one of those three guys IMO.  

 

If you're gonna trade back, say a half a dozen picks, go back and take a half a dozen picks off the list above. Trading back ain't gonna do no good with KC and Philly

right behind us.

[TheBeaneBandit]

44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay here is where I am at in terms of piecing things together..... I think we can narrow the Bills pick at #30 (or shortly thereafter with a small trade back) down to:

 

Corner: Trey Amos, Maxwell Hariston, Shavon Revel

Edge: Nic Scourton, Shermar Stewart

DTackle: Tyleik Williams

 

Those guys have all be in on 30 visits and with the exception of Kincaid (who I remain convinced was a backup plan at the last minute when Addison went) this regime has always used their first round pick on a guy they have had in for a 30 visit. Add to that none of Harmon, Nolen and Grant have been in and I think DTackle is not their plan at #30. I added Williams to this list because I think if they did shuffle back into the top of the 2nd, say half a dozen picks, then he could be in play there. 

 

I think Shermar Stewart will be gone. I think Revel is an injury risk the type of which they have tended to avoid in the first round so really I think Amos, Hariston and Scourton are the three most likely Bills selections at #30. It will be one of those three guys IMO.  

 

I like all 3 at 30. All play a premium position.

[DJB]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay here is where I am at in terms of piecing things together..... I think we can narrow the Bills pick at #30 (or shortly thereafter with a small trade back) down to:

 

Corner: Trey Amos, Maxwell Hariston, Shavon Revel

Edge: Nic Scourton, Shermar Stewart

DTackle: Tyleik Williams

 

Those guys have all be in on 30 visits and with the exception of Kincaid (who I remain convinced was a backup plan at the last minute when Addison went) this regime has always used their first round pick on a guy they have had in for a 30 visit. Add to that none of Harmon, Nolen and Grant have been in and I think DTackle is not their plan at #30. I added Williams to this list because I think if they did shuffle back into the top of the 2nd, say half a dozen picks, then he could be in play there. 

 

I think Shermar Stewart will be gone. I think Revel is an injury risk the type of which they have tended to avoid in the first round so really I think Amos, Hariston and Scourton are the three most likely Bills selections at #30. It will be one of those three guys IMO.  

 

 

EDIT: one caveat - by my count there are 6 top 30 visits unaccounted for. Is it possible the Bille have had Harmon, Nolen and Grant all in and kept it quiet? Possible, but tough in this media age. But a reminder in 2022 the news Elam had been in only came out in the final 48 hours pre-draft.

Not saying you are wrong, but this regime has shown they tend to draft the biggest areas of need and I would be surprised if it’s anything but DT or DB round 1. I think DE would be a luxury especially considering they would be a rotational piece and not a day 1 starter like the other two aforementioned positions of need. 
 

Also Stewart and Scourton scare me. Two guys with limited sack production and one with very average athleticism has me concerned . Huge upside with Stewart but man where was the sack production. 

[DJB]

 

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, DJB said:

Not saying you are wrong, but this regime has shown they tend to draft the biggest areas of need and I would be surprised if it’s anything but DT or DB round 1. I think DE would be a luxury especially considering they would be a rotational piece and not a day 1 starter like the other two aforementioned positions of need. 
 

Also Stewart and Scourton scare me. Two guys with limited sack production and one with very average athleticism has me concerned . Huge upside with Stewart but man where was the sack production. 

 

Scourton and Stewart do not have limited athleticism. 

 

On corners - I do think that is the most likely pick. If I was ranking my expectations it would be:

 

1. Amos

2. Hariston

3. Scourton

[DJB]

17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Scourton and Stewart do not have limited athleticism. 

 

On corners - I do think that is the most likely pick. If I was ranking my expectations it would be:

 

1. Amos

2. Hariston

3. Scourton

I only mentioned Scourton with limited athleticism. Stewart has huge potential and athleticism 

[gonzo1105]

21 minutes ago, DJB said:

I only mentioned Scourton with limited athleticism. Stewart has huge potential and athleticism 

I do agree that Scourton is more of a power DE than an athletic one. He does have a repertoire of moves which is nice. I’d say he’s like George Karlaftis who has had a nice career but will admit I’ve been dropping him a bit in my rankings. 
 

He fits the Bills first choice criteria of visiting and he is 20 years old. I’d prefer him after a trade down 

[DJB]

 

[OldTimer1960]

12 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I do agree that Scourton is more of a power DE than an athletic one. He does have a repertoire of moves which is nice. I’d say he’s like George Karlaftis who has had a nice career but will admit I’ve been dropping him a bit in my rankings. 
 

He fits the Bills first choice criteria of visiting and he is 20 years old. I’d prefer him after a trade down 

Scourton is a little stiff, but I think he moves pretty well and I saw him be able to breakdown and make some tough open field tackles.  He has reportedly shed a considerable amount of weight and I’ve heard that is pro day performance was quite good, though I don’t know the numbers.

[gonzo1105]

11 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Scourton is a little stiff, but I think he moves pretty well and I saw him be able to breakdown and make some tough open field tackles.  He has reportedly shed a considerable amount of weight and I’ve heard that is pro day performance was quite good, though I don’t know the numbers.

Oh I know he dropped a lot of weight. Even so I’d say he relies on power more than sure speed to get around Tackles even in his Purdue tape. I have also stated that A&M is kind of a place where DL production seems to go to die. Why that is who knows