SoonerBillsFan Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM Posted Thursday at 05:50 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know that the list is incomplete, but it basically says Golden or CB round 1, DT round 2. Corner in round 4ish if they take Golden. 6 WR brought in and McDermott saying we need to stretch the field vertically. DT,CB, AND WR are going to be the top 3 picks. Edited Thursday at 06:39 PM by SoonerBillsFan 4 Quote
balln Posted Thursday at 05:51 PM Posted Thursday at 05:51 PM (edited) 43 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: They’re not going to trade their 1st next year. The paranoia is over the top when it comes to the Chiefs or Eagles taking a guy that the Bills might have. I don’t think the Chiefs are even in the same realm of needs. Chiefs are looking at WR, OT, RB, TE, and maybe a DL but it’s not anywhere near their top need. The Eagles may take a pass rusher but their in the NFC the Bills can’t sit in their draft room worried about a team they see once every 4 years because there is a slight chance they could meet in the SB. Just look at the visit list man CBs 3-9 all visited here. It’s a very high likelihood they are going CB whether Nosejob or Gonzo1105 want it to happen or not You remind me of another poster on here with silly madden type concepts. Their not going to wheel and deal all their picks for a few guys I laughed out loud at nose job and gonzo edit. They’re actual un. Now more funny but different Edited Thursday at 05:52 PM by balln 1 Quote
nosejob Posted Thursday at 05:52 PM Posted Thursday at 05:52 PM 37 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: They’re not going to trade their 1st next year. The paranoia is over the top when it comes to the Chiefs or Eagles taking a guy that the Bills might have. I don’t think the Chiefs are even in the same realm of needs. Chiefs are looking at WR, OT, RB, TE, and maybe a DL but it’s not anywhere near their top need. The Eagles may take a pass rusher but their in the NFC the Bills can’t sit in their draft room worried about a team they see once every 4 years because there is a slight chance they could meet in the SB. Just look at the visit list man CBs 3-9 all visited here. It’s a very high likelihood they are going CB whether Nosejob or Gonzo1105 want it to happen or not You remind me of another poster on here with silly madden type concepts. Their not going to wheel and deal all their picks for a few guys Maybe they wanted Worthy last year as he was a need...like this year, and they thought they could move down for a paltry 3rd rd. pick and still get him. How did that work out in Jan.? They're not gonna wheel and deal? I hope you're right and we don't give up 2 4ths to move up a few spots in 1 or 2...cause that's all we got for that scenario. Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted Thursday at 06:11 PM Posted Thursday at 06:11 PM In Joe B's article in todays Athletic he talks about the Bills possibly drafting a punter and having a 3 way Puntapalooza. He mentioned this would be the first one since CoreyVsCoryVsKaarePuntapalooza. Trying to recall who two of them were. I assume one was Cory B. Don't recall the other two?? Quote
HappyDays Posted Thursday at 06:18 PM Posted Thursday at 06:18 PM 2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: Joe buscaglia mentioning something I think has more of a chance of happening than any other scenario, the Bills moving back. Here he uses the Giants as an example. They make a lot of sense. One team to keep an eye on for this could be the Giants. The Giants’ want and need for a young quarterback has been well-documented over the last two years. The close relationship between Beane and Giants GM Joe Schoen could come into the picture here. As of now, the Giants hold the No. 34 selection. By sliding back to that spot, the Bills would know the Giants are moving up to select a quarterback, and since the Bills have no need for one that early, that means they would effectively slide back and potentially miss out on only three players while picking up something of value. The Giants have two third-round selections (Nos. 65 and 99), and if the Bills can extract one of those, it would easily be worth a three-pick wait if they don’t feel strongly enough about someone on the board. I'm in favor of trading back. Ideally do it with a team that wants to jump KC for an OT. That way we get some draft capital back and screw over our rival in the process. And one of Amos, Revel, or Hairston should still be there in the mid 30s. After that use our late 4th to trade up in the 2nd from #56. And then trade up into the 3rd from #109. Ideally you end up with two top 50 players, and then two more top 90 players. This draft doesn't have a lot of star potential but it has a lot of starter potential. Get 4 legit starters and if your scouting is right hopefully one of them develops into an elite player. 3 Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 06:29 PM Posted Thursday at 06:29 PM (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: In Joe B's article in todays Athletic he talks about the Bills possibly drafting a punter and having a 3 way Puntapalooza. He mentioned this would be the first one since CoreyVsCoryVsKaarePuntapalooza. Trying to recall who two of them were. I assume one was Cory B. Don't recall the other two?? According to https://billswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2019/07/25/2019-buffalo-bills-training-camp-roster/79485587007/ Cory Carter was also in camp. Corey B got hurt mid season which lead us to sign Colton Schmidt who later was cut for Matt Darr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colton_Schmidt so not sure of the 3 way contest based on history unless we brought someone in training camp that I can't find in my quick search as the signing related to Carter getting cut wasn't a punter. Yet re-reading your post Kaare must be related to Kaare Vedvik who was a punter/kicker we had in camp in 2020 where Carter was here in 2017. Edited Thursday at 06:37 PM by The Jokeman Quote
BigAl2526 Posted Thursday at 07:13 PM Posted Thursday at 07:13 PM 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: 6 WR brought in and McDermott saying we need to stretch the field vertically. DT,CB, AND WR are going to be the top 3 picks. Ideally, I agree. The way the draft unfolds can disrupt the ideal plan though. 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM Author Posted Thursday at 07:23 PM 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I'm in favor of trading back. Ideally do it with a team that wants to jump KC for an OT. That way we get some draft capital back and screw over our rival in the process. And one of Amos, Revel, or Hairston should still be there in the mid 30s. After that use our late 4th to trade up in the 2nd from #56. And then trade up into the 3rd from #109. Ideally you end up with two top 50 players, and then two more top 90 players. This draft doesn't have a lot of star potential but it has a lot of starter potential. Get 4 legit starters and if your scouting is right hopefully one of them develops into an elite player. I'm not interested in trading back if any of the following are available Nolen Grant Harmon Golden Any other player we have a legit 1st round grade on. I'd rather stay at 30, or trade up a few spots. Keep both 2nd's. Use the 4th's and 5th's to move up into the 3rd. 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: In Joe B's article in todays Athletic he talks about the Bills possibly drafting a punter and having a 3 way Puntapalooza. He mentioned this would be the first one since CoreyVsCoryVsKaarePuntapalooza. Trying to recall who two of them were. I assume one was Cory B. Don't recall the other two?? This is madness. My goodness if we're going to draft a Punter....please take Desmond Watson in the 6th instead. 2 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted Thursday at 08:03 PM Posted Thursday at 08:03 PM 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: According to https://billswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bills/2019/07/25/2019-buffalo-bills-training-camp-roster/79485587007/ Cory Carter was also in camp. Corey B got hurt mid season which lead us to sign Colton Schmidt who later was cut for Matt Darr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colton_Schmidt so not sure of the 3 way contest based on history unless we brought someone in training camp that I can't find in my quick search as the signing related to Carter getting cut wasn't a punter. Yet re-reading your post Kaare must be related to Kaare Vedvik who was a punter/kicker we had in camp in 2020 where Carter was here in 2017. Wow don't recall some of those name, but not like they made an in-game impression I do recall Colton Schmidt and Corey B, but this Kaare Vedvik name sounds like a name you'd more likely find on the Sabres roster than the Bills. Thanks for filling in the names! 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM Posted Thursday at 08:10 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This is madness. My goodness if we're going to draft a Punter....please take Desmond Watson in the 6th instead. We have two Drafted and then cut Punter's. Neither is a sure thing. One could be cut as soon as after Mini-Camp, if there's a guy they like in the Draft. We have 10 picks. It's not madness to use one of our last picks on a Punter (where good Punters tend to go). If you can find a Starting Punter you like with your last pick in lieu of a player you're probably just going to cut - I don't think that's crazy at all. Desmond Watson is an UDFA level prospect. And not even a Priority one. There's a reason why you get an "F" when you take him in Mocks, even with our last pick. Just bc he's big doesn't mean he's good. You see size and think "unmovable". But when you're that heavy, if you're able to get him off balance with good technique, you can leverage his weight against him - and make him easier to topple over than someone smaller. If his size equated to him being an unmovable beast, he'd be a higher valued prospect than he is. Edited Thursday at 10:04 PM by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted Thursday at 08:13 PM Posted Thursday at 08:13 PM 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: 6 WR brought in and McDermott saying we need to stretch the field vertically. DT,CB, AND WR are going to be the top 3 picks. He said vertically and horizontally. I think they're going to see how their board falls before they go shopping for WR. I think there are a plethora of receivers who fit what they are looking for. I know I prefer Thornton. He looks the part of the vertical/horizontal WR in every video that I've seen. And has the size too 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'm not interested in trading back if any of the following are available Nolen Grant Harmon Golden Any other player we have a legit 1st round grade on. I'd rather stay at 30, or trade up a few spots. Keep both 2nd's. Use the 4th's and 5th's to move up into the 3rd. This is madness. My goodness if we're going to draft a Punter....please take Desmond Watson in the 6th instead. I'm probably in the minority but the best punter in the draft might be Eddie Czaplicki. Quote
3rdand12 Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM Posted Thursday at 10:04 PM 4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: 6 WR brought in and McDermott saying we need to stretch the field vertically. DT,CB, AND WR are going to be the top 3 picks. Would Be wise. Did you list them by priority ? I would add DE to the top 4 picks 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: I'm in favor of trading back. Ideally do it with a team that wants to jump KC for an OT. That way we get some draft capital back and screw over our rival in the process. And one of Amos, Revel, or Hairston should still be there in the mid 30s. After that use our late 4th to trade up in the 2nd from #56. And then trade up into the 3rd from #109. Ideally you end up with two top 50 players, and then two more top 90 players. This draft doesn't have a lot of star potential but it has a lot of starter potential. Get 4 legit starters and if your scouting is right hopefully one of them develops into an elite player. I love your loathing for KC ! So yes ! You sure are focused on CBs 🧡the BOLDED. But I might add. One of them needs be in the discussion of elite at end of year Beane needs to hit a triple or better. I have expectations this year ! LOL Quote
The Jokeman Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM 4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: 6 WR brought in and McDermott saying we need to stretch the field vertically. DT,CB, AND WR are going to be the top 3 picks. Edge defender could also be in play. 1 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM Posted Thursday at 10:47 PM I think with Tre resigning the desperate need for a cb at 30 has decreased. I still like one at 56 or 62 but it clearly looks like 30 will be a DT, edge or WR now Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Thursday at 10:52 PM Author Posted Thursday at 10:52 PM 5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: I think with Tre resigning the desperate need for a cb at 30 has decreased. I still like one at 56 or 62 but it clearly looks like 30 will be a DT, edge or WR now DT or Golden at 30 1 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Thursday at 11:15 PM Posted Thursday at 11:15 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: Would Be wise. Did you list them by priority ? I would add DE to the top 4 picks Yep that would be my priority, and I can see a DE to develop taken in round 4. 37 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Edge defender could also be in play. 4th round Edited Thursday at 11:20 PM by SoonerBillsFan 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted Thursday at 11:32 PM Posted Thursday at 11:32 PM 38 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: DT or Golden at 30 Im guessing it’s that or they have completely fallen in love with some edge guy we aren’t talking about. I still think corner is a possibility, but White does change things. Being after Golden then devoting the rest of the draft to defense actually makes sense Quote
Turbo44 Posted Thursday at 11:49 PM Posted Thursday at 11:49 PM 55 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: DT or Golden at 30 Golden won’t last to 30, prob gone before 20. Im hoping for Harmon, but I could also see grant or Luther burden (I think that’s his name) Quote
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