Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[gonzo1105]

34 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

That Horton is very intriguing. What round is he projected to go?

Probsbly round 4 but could sneak into 3 

[gonzo1105]

I know there is still time but it is noticeable that the Bills have yet to bring in Harmon or Grant to visit. They have now brought in 4 CBs though that could be in the range of 30. I think that’s a sign all things considered still 10 days though. 

[Dr. Who]

6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I know there is still time but it is noticeable that the Bills have yet to bring in Harmon or Grant to visit. They have now brought in 4 CBs though that could be in the range of 30. I think that’s a sign all things considered still 10 days though. 

Correct, I think. I am preemptively annoyed. I'd like to be less annoyed on actual draft day, but probably in the end, this will make it worse. 

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Correct, I think. I am preemptively annoyed. I'd like to be less annoyed on actual draft day, but probably in the end, this will make it worse. 

Imagine having both Grant and Harmon on the board and they take a corner?  😳 

 

But rest easy-  its my belief that the top 4 DTs will all be off the board in rd 1- likely before 30

[DJB]

 

[gonzo1105]

Just now, NewEra said:

Imagine having both Grant and Harmon on the board and they take a corner?  😳 

 

But rest easy-  its my belief that the top 4 DTs will all be off the board in rd 1- likely before 30

Harmon won’t be on the board imo, that might be why they’re not wasting their time. They might have some intel that he’ll be taken out of their trade up range. I think he could go as high as 15 to be honest and I like him at 17 to Cincinnati 

[Warriorspikes51]

11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Correct, I think. I am preemptively annoyed. I'd like to be less annoyed on actual draft day, but probably in the end, this will make it worse. 

We met with Grant & Harmon at the combine already. Perhaps 1 or both will be in the remaining 12 visits

[DJB]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

6 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

Morrison is a complete corner. 
Porter’s difference between Zone and Man is wild

[DJB]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Morrison is a complete corner. 
Porter’s difference between Zone and Man is wild

Yup Morrison is my corner that I’m rooting for . He’s my guy 

[Warriorspikes51]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Imagine having both Grant and Harmon on the board and they take a corner?  😳 

 

But rest easy-  its my belief that the top 4 DTs will all be off the board in rd 1- likely before 30

then we should be trading up for one

 

if Grant, Nolen and Harmon are gone, I’d sign up for Tyleik Williams right now.  Immediately helps the Run D

Edited April 15 by Warriorspikes51

[LEBills]

6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Morrison is a complete corner. 
Porter’s difference between Zone and Man is wild

very small sample size for Porter tho, that’s the most concerning part

[Warriorspikes51]

 

“Plays violent”  Team Captain. I’m in.

[scuba guy]

10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They are talking about his back injury now. I don’t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Is that the reason that he fell off and he’s healthy? Is that now a lingering concern that he will deal with from this point forward?

Sounds like terel Troup 2.0

[DJB]

I understand it’s a deep DT draft with guys like T Williams, Farmer, A Collins etc all available in round 2. 
 

But I want a difference maker at that position. Someone teams need to plan for . That’s why I want Nolen, Harmon or even Grant round 1.

 

Move up to get one of those quality corners in round 2 if need be. 
 

Unless one of Barron , or W Johnson slip in round 1, why take an inferior corner prospect in Revel, Amos when you could take one of those 3 DT’s and still grab Morrison or maybe Hairston etc round 2

 

Make it make sense for me 

[Dr. Who]

9 minutes ago, DJB said:

I understand it’s a deep DT draft with guys like T Williams, Farmer, A Collins etc all available in round 2. 
 

But I want a difference maker at that position. Someone teams need to plan for . That’s why I want Nolen, Harmon or even Grant round 1.

 

Move up to get one of those quality corners in round 2 if need be. 
 

Unless one of Barron , or W Johnson slip in round 1, why take an inferior corner prospect in Revel, Amos when you could take one of those 3 DT’s and still grab Morrison or maybe Hairston etc round 2

 

Make it make sense for me 

I agree with your sentiments, but you know the answer: the need at CB is dire, and folks think there's going to be a run on all the ones that rate above a day 3 pick before you get to 56. Further, everyone knows Beane needs to fill that hole, so teams will jump ahead of him if he stands pat. 

 

Also, they don't think DT is a difference maker like that. They think it's mostly a two-down run stuffer in a deep draft at the position, so they think you can wait.

Edited April 15 by Dr. Who

[sven233]

Harmon is my guy that is somewhat realistic in this draft.  Now, I don't think there is a chance in the world that he is going to be there at 30.  However, I was hoping that he could make it until the early 20s where we might have a shot at getting to.  The closer we get to the draft, though, I am not sure that is going to be the case.  He is now more likely to go in the middle of the round and will just be too expensive to go get.

 

So, that said, I am honestly leaning more CB in Round 1 as we close in on the draft.  I think a guy like Maxwell Hairston or Trey Amos would be great for us.  Honestly, if we could go Hairston/Amos (or whatever CB they like), the DT of our choice, and then someone like Xavier Watts, I think the top of the draft would be pretty solid.  What I would really like to be able to do, and of course it depends how the board falls would be able to trade down a few spots, make the same picks, while also getting a 3rd.  Then, in the 3rd, find the speed at WR we desperately need.

Edited April 15 by sven233

[MrEpsYtown]

4 minutes ago, DJB said:

I understand it’s a deep DT draft with guys like T Williams, Farmer, A Collins etc all available in round 2. 
 

But I want a difference maker at that position. Someone teams need to plan for . That’s why I want Nolen, Harmon or even Grant round 1.

 

Move up to get one of those quality corners in round 2 if need be. 
 

Unless one of Barron , or W Johnson slip in round 1, why take an inferior corner prospect in Revel, Amos when you could take one of those 3 DT’s and still grab Morrison or maybe Hairston etc round 2

 

Make it make sense for me 

The only thing I can say is that those guys are not going to be there in round two. Maybe Morrison and Thomas. I think rest are all way gone. 
 

Last year the first corner did not go until 22 and still 8 corners went before pick 56 and then two more went by 62.

 

In 2023, 8 corners went by pick 56, 9

by 62.

 

In 2022, 8 corners went by pick 56, 9 by 62. 
 

Hunter, Johnson, Barron, Hairston, Amos, Revel, will almost certainly be gone in the first 35-40 or so picks. Morrison, Thomas, makes 8. After that it’s Porter. Maybe one of those three guys are there…Morrison coming off an injury, Thomas is slow, and Porter is inexperienced, raw, and old.
 

Just based on trends etc, these guys will likely all be gone by the time we pick at 56. So it’s either trade down from 30 or trade up from 56 if you really want that stud tackle and a corner. 
 

You can skip corner all together if you are content with Dane Jackson or JaMarcus Ingram as a starter, which is absurd for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. 

But as you said, the move up is possible, so who knows. What I do feel very confident saying is that they won’t be able to get their future starting corner at pick 56. 

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

The only thing I can say is that those guys are not going to be there in round two. Maybe Morrison and Thomas. I think rest are all way gone. 
 

Last year the first corner did not go until 22 and still 8 corners went before pick 56 and then two more went by 62.

 

In 2023, 8 corners went by pick 56, 9

by 62.

 

In 2022, 8 corners went by pick 56, 9 by 62. 
 

Hunter, Johnson, Barron, Hairston, Amos, Revel, will almost certainly be gone in the first 35-40 or so picks. Morrison, Thomas, makes 8. After that it’s Porter. Maybe one of those three guys are there…Morrison coming off an injury, Thomas is slow, and Porter is inexperienced, raw, and old.
 

Just based on trends etc, these guys will likely all be gone by the time we pick at 56. So it’s either trade down from 30 or trade up from 56 if you really want that stud tackle and a corner. 
 

You can skip corner all together if you are content with Dane Jackson or JaMarcus Ingram as a starter, which is absurd for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. 

But as you said, the move up is possible, so who knows. What I do feel very confident saying is that they won’t be able to get their future starting corner at pick 56. 

If Grant or Harmon are there at 30 (unlikely), I'm taking them and trading up from 56 for a corner. 

[JaCrispy]

15 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

If Grant or Harmon are there at 30 (unlikely), I'm taking them and trading up from 56 for a corner. 

Agreed…and if they are not there, I’d like to trade down, to try and get our 3rd rounder back…It’s brutal having to go a whole round without a pick