boyst Posted Saturday at 02:08 AM Posted Saturday at 02:08 AM 2 hours ago, Autumn said: my latest espn mock without making trades. Really wanted Williams from Ohio State but hard to pass on Morrison to pair with Benford Nick Emmanwori Rk: 21 South Carolina Round 2, Pick 56 Benjamin Morrison CB Rk: 44 Notre Dame Round 2, Pick 62 T.J. Sanders South Carolina DT Rk: 42 Round 4, Pick 109 Cam Skatebo RB Rk: 62 Arizona St. Round 4, Pick 132 Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins EDGE Rk: 106 Georgia Round 5, Pick 169 Chimere ***** Florida WR Rk: 114 Round 5, Pick 170 Dorian Strong CB Rk: 132 Virginia Tech Round 5, Pick 173 Ty Hamilton DT Rk: 130 Ohio State Round 6, Pick 177 Dylan Fairchild Georgia C, /G Rk: 138 Round 6, Pick 206 LeQuint Allen Syracuse RB Rk: 136 The censored last name is Bike but with a D instead of B. I hope we draft him just to f with the word filter. 3 Quote
sven233 Posted Saturday at 02:24 AM Posted Saturday at 02:24 AM (edited) Ari Meirov @MySportsUpdate Developing: #Saints QB Derek Carr is dealing with a shoulder injury that could impact his availability for the 2025 season, per @RapSheet He’s currently weighing options, including surgery. New Orleans holds the No. 9 pick in the draft. I have been on this train for a couple months now and with this news coming down, I am absolutely calling the Saints to see if I can pry Olave out of there. Sure, there are risks with his injury history, but you can say that about a lot of guys. The fact is, when he's healthy, Olave is one of the best man coverage beaters in the league. He's fast and can challenge teams at every level of the field. Quite honestly, he's exactly the type of WR we are missing. So, what does it all mean? Not sure since we don't know if he is available to trade for. But I am making the call. Can we get him for one of our 2nds? I have been trying to figure out how to get a DT, CB, and game breaking WR with our first 3 picks. In the draft, I am not sure that's even possible because I don't see a WR there that I would feel 100% certain about with the skill set we are looking for. In my opinion, Olave is better than every WR in this draft. But yeah....injuries and an upcoming contract make it more challenging, but man....if we could figure it out, I'd be thrilled. He would absolutely fill the WR hole we have and we could use 30 on the best CB or DT available and our remaining 2nd to fill the position we don't take at 30 and I would love our draft no matter what happens the rest of the way. I mean, maybe this further pushes the Saints to draft a QB at 9 like Dart or someone else and they will want him to have an explosive weapon like Olave for him to throw to. I would completely understand that line of thinking. I would also understand if the Saints look at this as a chance to reset and want to add more ammo and picks in the draft. But, it is absolutely a call I am making to find out what they're thinking. Edited Saturday at 02:29 AM by sven233 1 Quote
nbbillsfan Posted Saturday at 05:58 AM Posted Saturday at 05:58 AM Bills get: Olave and 2nd round pick (#40) saints get: 1st (#30) and 2nd (#56) get it done beane. 1 1 1 3 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Saturday at 08:18 AM Posted Saturday at 08:18 AM 11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: IMO First 3 picks should be 2 DT’s & 1 CB in whatever order. Grant would be such a huge get at 30 or even a small trade up unless it’s Matthew Golden I'd prefer a 1T, a CB, and a WR with those first 3 picks. But as long as they get a 1T and a CB with 2 of the first 3 - I'm flexible with the other pick. 1 Quote
DJB Posted Saturday at 10:56 AM Posted Saturday at 10:56 AM Both concerning and interesting information here. I also thought Grant was a better run defender ….I knew Nolen was the best of those big 3 and Harmon the best pas rush guy. But concerning on Grant unless he gets docked negative points for taking on double teams . (But Dexter Lawrence put up good numbers). I also posted earlier this year maybe in this thread about Harmons troubles wrapping up tacklers. This is pretty glaring on this chart . Very interesting chart regardless 3 1 Quote
Autumn Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM Posted Saturday at 11:36 AM (edited) 9 hours ago, boyst said: The censored last name is Bike but with a D instead of B. I hope we draft him just to f with the word filter. Lmao I will just be ecstatic if my top two are there. I really wanted to also get Tyleik Williams to solidify the line but the improvement in the secondaryj should help there too a bit. Edited Saturday at 11:39 AM by Autumn Quote
mathja Posted Saturday at 01:33 PM Posted Saturday at 01:33 PM 7 hours ago, nbbillsfan said: Bills get: Olave and 2nd round pick (#40) saints get: 1st (#30) and 2nd (#56) get it done beane. If he was healthy, sure. But with so many concussions, I bet he could be had for less than that. It’s a huge risk. 2 Quote
Ralonzo Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM On 4/10/2025 at 10:07 PM, noacls said: He is a projected 3rd round pick. He is also faster than former All Pro Matt Milano and the same size coming out of college. So prototypical McBeane lb. I want to get back to this. Paul seems to be the body type who'd only backup the Will (Milano). Is Dorian Williams going to be backing up Bernard? A lot of the difficulty in the Bills' scheme is you need a Mike who can thump the run AND cover a zone, which is fine when you got Keuchley but you can't just plug in a long rangy guy who can run (see: Tremaine and my concerns about Stutsman) I'm all for shooting Bail Inspector into the sun and all, but I want to understand the need and the fit for Paul for my mocks, I see him at the top of the 4th pretty often but certainly don't see spending 109 on him. Just wondering if he's that much better than a guy like Bassa or Mondon later. I could understand as a set-up to release Milano for '26. 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted Saturday at 05:39 PM Posted Saturday at 05:39 PM 21 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: LFG!!! 2 Quote
noacls Posted Saturday at 05:57 PM Posted Saturday at 05:57 PM 21 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: I want to get back to this. Paul seems to be the body type who'd only backup the Will (Milano). Is Dorian Williams going to be backing up Bernard? A lot of the difficulty in the Bills' scheme is you need a Mike who can thump the run AND cover a zone, which is fine when you got Keuchley but you can't just plug in a long rangy guy who can run (see: Tremaine and my concerns about Stutsman) I'm all for shooting Bail Inspector into the sun and all, but I want to understand the need and the fit for Paul for my mocks, I see him at the top of the 4th pretty often but certainly don't see spending 109 on him. Just wondering if he's that much better than a guy like Bassa or Mondon later. I could understand as a set-up to release Milano for '26. I think this is Milano's last year here and they are looking for replacement. I also don't think staff is sold on Williams coverage ability. All opinions of course. Nice to be able to have a discussion. 1 Quote
sven233 Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM (edited) 56 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This is absolutely the kind of guy that you take a swing with in the mid rounds. Elite traits. You just don't see guys this big that can run that fast very often. Sure he has his issues, shortcomings, and is super raw, but if the kid is willing to learn and put the work in, and your coaching staff is as good as it should be, this is the kind of guy that you could mold into something special. Edited Saturday at 06:14 PM by sven233 3 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Saturday at 06:18 PM Posted Saturday at 06:18 PM 15 hours ago, sven233 said: Ari Meirov @MySportsUpdate Developing: #Saints QB Derek Carr is dealing with a shoulder injury that could impact his availability for the 2025 season, per @RapSheet He’s currently weighing options, including surgery. New Orleans holds the No. 9 pick in the draft. I have been on this train for a couple months now and with this news coming down, I am absolutely calling the Saints to see if I can pry Olave out of there. Sure, there are risks with his injury history, but you can say that about a lot of guys. The fact is, when he's healthy, Olave is one of the best man coverage beaters in the league. He's fast and can challenge teams at every level of the field. Quite honestly, he's exactly the type of WR we are missing. So, what does it all mean? Not sure since we don't know if he is available to trade for. But I am making the call. Can we get him for one of our 2nds? I have been trying to figure out how to get a DT, CB, and game breaking WR with our first 3 picks. In the draft, I am not sure that's even possible because I don't see a WR there that I would feel 100% certain about with the skill set we are looking for. In my opinion, Olave is better than every WR in this draft. But yeah....injuries and an upcoming contract make it more challenging, but man....if we could figure it out, I'd be thrilled. He would absolutely fill the WR hole we have and we could use 30 on the best CB or DT available and our remaining 2nd to fill the position we don't take at 30 and I would love our draft no matter what happens the rest of the way. I mean, maybe this further pushes the Saints to draft a QB at 9 like Dart or someone else and they will want him to have an explosive weapon like Olave for him to throw to. I would completely understand that line of thinking. I would also understand if the Saints look at this as a chance to reset and want to add more ammo and picks in the draft. But, it is absolutely a call I am making to find out what they're thinking. I am with you, make the call. Quote
Ralonzo Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 50 minutes ago, noacls said: I think this is Milano's last year here and they are looking for replacement. I also don't think staff is sold on Williams coverage ability. All opinions of course. Nice to be able to have a discussion. I'm just thinking now they looked at the options in this draft and just decided to extend Bernard. There really isn't a prototype of the "McD Dream" for Mike in the draft. I did a mock where I had Stutsman come to 132 so I kind of had to pull the trigger on the hopes his coverage shortcoming is experience and not ability based, because he's the one guy who has length and ranges sideline-to-sideline like Tremaine does, but will shed a blocker and fill a hole like Tremaine doesn't. Bernard can do both at an adequate level but is starting to show the toll it takes at his size. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM Author Posted Saturday at 06:54 PM 41 minutes ago, sven233 said: This is absolutely the kind of guy that you take a swing with in the mid rounds. Elite traits. You just don't see guys this big that can run that fast very often. Sure he has his issues, shortcomings, and is super raw, but if the kid is willing to learn and put the work in, and your coaching staff is as good as it should be, this is the kind of guy that you could mold into something special. anything extra is great. He can/should be a plug and play vertical threat for us 1 Quote
sven233 Posted Saturday at 07:08 PM Posted Saturday at 07:08 PM 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: anything extra is great. He can/should be a plug and play vertical threat for us I have seen him anywhere from the 3rd to the 5th on him (I have a 4th round grade on him, but I am not convinced he's going to make it that far). If we actually had a 3rd, I would probably be banging the drum to take him there even if it would be a bit of a reach. Just not sure he is going to be there in the 4th when we get to pick. Depending on how the draft falls in round 1, I would absolutely be interested in dropping back a couple picks to add a 3rd rounder. Obviously, if the guys we want are being scooped up, we may have to stick or even trade up, but if for some reason we get to 25-30 and there are 5-6 guys we can pick from, I'd absolutely be looking to drop into the early 2nd if I can (I am not dropping more than 4-5 spots, though) to add that 3rd to take him. CB, DT, S, WR. Knock them all off in rounds 2 and 3 and then just go BPA the rest of the way. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Saturday at 07:20 PM Posted Saturday at 07:20 PM I am thinking DT, CB,WR and Milano's replacement is what the order of business is with the first 4 picks. 2 Quote
mannc Posted Saturday at 07:25 PM Posted Saturday at 07:25 PM 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: We’re talking fourth round pick here, right? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Saturday at 07:28 PM Author Posted Saturday at 07:28 PM (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I am thinking DT, CB,WR and Milano's replacement is what the order of business is with the first 4 picks. 30. DT 56. DT 62. Landon Jackson / CB / WR 109. WR / CB / S / LB / EDGE Edited Saturday at 07:29 PM by Warriorspikes51 Quote
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