Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[noacls]

7 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Small guy, doesn't run fast... it checks out.

Since when is a 4.63 slow for a lb?

[Ralonzo]

Just now, noacls said:

Since when is a 4.63 slow for a lb?

 

If you're a linebacker the size of a safety, you'd better run like a safety. 6' 220lb 30" arms and 4.63... maybe at #173

[noacls]

15 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

If you're a linebacker the size of a safety, you'd better run like a safety. 6' 220lb 30" arms and 4.63... maybe at #173

He is a projected 3rd round pick. He is also faster than former All Pro Matt Milano and the same size coming out of college. So prototypical McBeane lb. 

[MrEpsYtown]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I don't know what I'm missing but Hairston seems like he should be projected higher, he looks like such a clean fit to the NFL. Smaller frame so maybe that worries teams but his movement skills in coverage are elite. His ability to break on routes is rare. I think from day one you put him on the field and just leave him in off coverage and let him read and react.

Feels like Hairston or Amos to me if they stay put and go corner.

 

Or Morrison…I know he has a hip injury, dude has a ton of pro traits. 
 

 

Edited Friday at 02:42 AM by MrEpsYtown

[Dr. Who]

12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Feels like Hairston or Amos to me if they stay put and go corner.

 

Or Morrison…I know he has a hip injury, dude has a ton of pro traits. 
 

 

Yeah, I'm hoping to get one of those guys in the second, even if you have to move up a bit to do so. I just don't like them at 30, and Bill From NYC's TV doesn't like them there, either. 

[gonzo1105]

Another LB type that fits the Bills is Nick Martin from Oklahoma State. Had a good combine and a monster 3rd year before missing most of last year with a knee injury 

[Richard Noggin]

42 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Feels like Hairston or Amos to me if they stay put and go corner.

 

Or Morrison…I know he has a hip injury, dude has a ton of pro traits. 
 

 

 

I think Morrison could be valuable in McDermott's scheme (aggression, instincts, character) while Hairston might solve the larger McBeane equation: scheme fit + insane traits - somewhat limited experience. 

 

Only way I'd like to see one of these CBs at 30 though is if there is an unexpected run on them in the 20s, and you're grabbing the last remaining of Morrison, Hairston, and maybe Amos? That's a lot of 1st round CBs. Which would hopefully mean some of those nimble giants (DTs) the Bills need are sliding into day two. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

Pretty much agree. Although a little raw I love Hairston 's traits. I think you throw him right out there and hope he stay healthy until he puts just a little more weight/muscle on. Amos I think you can play more press with him and Benford after he gets the technique down.

[MrEpsYtown]

9 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Yeah, I'm hoping to get one of those guys in the second, even if you have to move up a bit to do so. I just don't like them at 30, and Bill From NYC's TV doesn't like them there, either. 

 

8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I think Morrison could be valuable in McDermott's scheme (aggression, instincts, character) while Hairston might solve the larger McBeane equation: scheme fit + insane traits - somewhat limited experience. 

 

Only way I'd like to see one of these CBs at 30 though is if there is an unexpected run on them in the 20s, and you're grabbing the last remaining of Morrison, Hairston, and maybe Amos? That's a lot of 1st round CBs. Which would hopefully mean some of those nimble giants (DTs) the Bills need are sliding into day two. 

 

I just don't think any of those guys make it to our pick in the second round, maybe Morrison because of the injury. Perhaps we may have to make a small trade up for one. 

 

Last year, the first corner did not go until pick 22, and then 6 more corners went through pick 42. So from 22-42, you had 7 corners selected. 3 more went towards the end of the second round. So 10 in the first 64 picks. I think we could see something similar. Hunter, Johnson Barron early, then the next group somewhere between 25-45 all go. 

 

So you could trade down from 30 or try to trade up from 56. But I think it's unlikely those three guys make it down to 56 (aside from Morrison with the injury. 

 

Hunter, Johnson, and Barron feel like first round locks. 

 

Then it's Revel, Hairston, Amos then probably Morrison and then Thomas and Porter. So that's 9, and then I think there is a dropoff to the next tier of guys. 

 

Waiting until 56 is playing with fire IMO, especially because McDermott likes a very specific type of corner. His preferences on length etc probably elimates a few of those guys, making it even more difficult to wait until round 2. But we shall see what happens

 

[Dillenger4]

Sounds like Will Johnson to the Bills at 30. Right on too cause he's a baller!

[HappyDays]

I doubt he'll make it out of the top 20, smart to do the work on him though just in case. All athletic upside with no production.

[LEBills]

Just now, HappyDays said:

I doubt he'll make it out of the top 20, smart to do the work on him though just in case. All athletic upside with no production.

yea let someone else take him plz

[gonzo1105]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I doubt he'll make it out of the top 20, smart to do the work on him though just in case. All athletic upside with no production.

This guy is making visits from teams in the top 10 all the way down the first round. Must have a wide range of grades 

[wppete]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

This guy is making visits from teams in the top 10 all the way down the first round. Must have a wide range of grades 

Late First Round, early Second Round. 

[Wallymo]

I've never seen a supposed first round talent less wanted by fanbases around the league than Shemar Stewart. He's this year's Tony Mandorich -- all testing and no tape.

[gonzo1105]

Just now, wppete said:

Late First Round, early Second Round. 

I mean in this draft, I won’t disagree as there are about 40 guys who could go from 10 to 50. I just see in a draft so weak his traits getting him in round 1. I think his teammate Scourton as being the one who will get knocked into round 2 but like I said who knows 

[Turbo44]

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

 

I just don't think any of those guys make it to our pick in the second round, maybe Morrison because of the injury. Perhaps we may have to make a small trade up for one. 

 

Last year, the first corner did not go until pick 22, and then 6 more corners went through pick 42. So from 22-42, you had 7 corners selected. 3 more went towards the end of the second round. So 10 in the first 64 picks. I think we could see something similar. Hunter, Johnson Barron early, then the next group somewhere between 25-45 all go. 

 

So you could trade down from 30 or try to trade up from 56. But I think it's unlikely those three guys make it down to 56 (aside from Morrison with the injury. 

 

Hunter, Johnson, and Barron feel like first round locks. 

 

Then it's Revel, Hairston, Amos then probably Morrison and then Thomas and Porter. So that's 9, and then I think there is a dropoff to the next tier of guys. 

 

Waiting until 56 is playing with fire IMO, especially because McDermott likes a very specific type of corner. His preferences on length etc probably elimates a few of those guys, making it even more difficult to wait until round 2. But we shall see what happens

 

I think if they go cb with the 1st pick it’ll involve a trade out of the 1st and draft Amos, revel, Hairston or Morrison. Maybe get a 3rd Ana send back a 6th. If they go DT they may stay at 30 or trade up??

[gonzo1105]

5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

I think if they go cb with the 1st pick it’ll involve a trade out of the 1st and draft Amos, revel, Hairston or Morrison. Maybe get a 3rd Ana send back a 6th. If they go DT they may stay at 30 or trade up??

I could see this . Moving down getting more capital taking a DB than moving up from 56 with additional capital to move up to secure best DL

[jahnyc]

Starting to get the feeling that Grant and Harmon will be gone before our pick in the first round.  Many of the recent mock drafts have them going mid first round.  If this is the case, I would consider Tyleik Williams (OSU) at 30, even if a bit early for where he should be drafted.  Ideally, if this is how things play out and a quality CB is available in the first round for us, then a trade up in the second to get Williams would potentially make more sense.

 

 

[Turbo44]

26 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I could see this . Moving down getting more capital taking a DB than moving up from 56 with additional capital to move up to secure best DL

And DL is so deep we may be able to stay at 56 and grab a DL. My dream senario:

 

trade #30 and 6th rounder for low 40 pick (maybe a team trying to get a qb) and a 3rd

 

40: revel or amos

56: grant (as I’ve seen him fall in some mocks)

62: thst DE we had in for a visit to and have talked to a lot

3rd: outside speed Wr (Williams / Thornton jr type)

4th/5th/5th/ 6th/6th/7th - BPA: lottery tickets 

6 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

Starting to get the feeling that Grant and Harmon will be gone before our pick in the first round.  Many of the recent mock drafts have them going mid first round.  If this is the case, I would consider Tyleik Williams (OSU) at 30, even if a bit early for where he should be drafted.  Ideally, if this is how things play out and a quality CB is available in the first round for us, then a trade up in the second to get Williams would potentially make more sense.

 

 

Tyleik is a beast - maybe the best run stuffer in the draft. I would have no issue drafting him at #30 especially if a Morrison type drops to 56

Edited Friday at 04:05 PM by Turbo44