Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[nosejob]

25 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

He's not alone in that. Every team has a weakness going into the draft that every other team in the league knows about. The salary cap and the 53-man roster assure that. We should just be happy that our weakness is not OL, because that is the need for at least half the teams in the NFL. 

I just hope he don't trade back. Blowing 2 4ths to move up a couple of spots is stupid. I'd like to for once see them stand pat and let the draft come to them. If they feel they need to move up in the 2nd and / or get a 3rd which we do... USE A FUTURE PICK!  It's not gonna kill us.  Josh is one year older. 

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

4.5  40?  Come on now

Here’s a list of players that the Bills met with at the combine per various media reports. 

 

Florida State DT Joshua Farmer

Michigan DT Kenneth Grant

Ole Miss DT Walter Nolen

Oregon DT Jamaree Caldwell

Texas DT Alfred Collins

Texas DT Vernon Broughton

Arkansas DE Landon Jackson

Marshall DE Mike Green

Michigan DE Josaiah Stewart

Ole Miss LB Chris “Pooh” Paul Jr.

Georgia WR Arian Smith

Miami WR Xavier Restrepo

TCU WR Savion Williams

Texas WR Matthew Golden

Texas WR Isaiah Bond

Georgia RB Trevor Etienne

Oregon RB Jordan James

Texas RB Jaydon Blue

Georgia S Malaki Starks

Notre Dame S Xavier Watts

PSU S Jaylen Reed

South Carolina S Nick Emmanwori

Syracuse S Alijah Clark

Texas S Andrew Mukuba

[nosejob]

7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

McD wants guys that will tackle.

I feel ya about the stress. But does not fit the defense scheme. Dane will tackle, did from day one and why he stood out to me

I would move a 2026 pick etc to get The Player they covet late 1st or early second. Get the feeling that some desirable players who fit will land 25-50.

Future pick should be on the table this year , and that is a change of heart for me this year

Josh agrees

I've said this elsewhere ...trade pick 29-32 (2026) for a few spots up from 62 and a 3rd. There are teams with more than 1 pick in each round, it's kinda simple.

Stay at 30 ...go Nolan, Collins and Porter. Get a 3rd for Thornton and use those later picks the best we can. This is driving me nuts. With 2 4s and 3 5ths, we should be able to come away with 4 starters.

[Dr. Who]

4 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I've said this elsewhere ...trade pick 29-32 (2026) for a few spots up from 62 and a 3rd. There are teams with more than 1 pick in each round, it's kinda simple.

Stay at 30 ...go Nolan, Collins and Porter. Get a 3rd for Thornton and use those later picks the best we can. This is driving me nuts. With 2 4s and 3 5ths, we should be able to come away with 4 starters.

I'm not trading a 2026 first for that.

[MrEpsYtown]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm not trading a 2026 first for that.

100%. it’s a weak draft this year, 100% willing to sacrifice multiple 2025 picks to target specific guys. I would not be ok moving a 2026 pick unless I was getting Abdul Carter or something. 

[3rdand12]

19 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I've said this elsewhere ...trade pick 29-32 (2026) for a few spots up from 62 and a 3rd. There are teams with more than 1 pick in each round, it's kinda simple.

Stay at 30 ...go Nolan, Collins and Porter. Get a 3rd for Thornton and use those later picks the best we can. This is driving me nuts. With 2 4s and 3 5ths, we should be able to come away with 4 starters.

As you might know by now 😋 I am all about Grant.

 And if Beane , he likely has a good few players on his list who would motivate his Team to pick up the phones.

Wont pretend to know much about the players you mentioned. But , this is the year to whip out the Magic Beane on Draft day.

 We have 4 big time needs I might hope you would agree ?

I almost dont care what they do to solve the 1st 3. haha

 and we all have a different list for 3 most needed

and thats cool ! If we nail those 3-4 of those needs and Not BPA , but bpa lol lol lol

 It can be done. If i takes a Pick away from 2026 ? So be it

Edited Saturday at 09:18 PM by 3rdand12

[3rdand12]

5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

100%. it’s a weak draft this year, 100% willing to sacrifice multiple 2025 picks to target specific guys. I would not be ok moving a 2026 pick unless I was getting Abdul Carter or something. 

I don't think we have the ammo to answer the 4 needs using this years picks.

 You may not be suggesting this , but Bills need to invest in Day One starters this year. They are so close. Seriously. The Defense and that WR role we dont have yet outside are all that we are missing to finish out a Season proper !

We are drafting at 32 64 etc. Invest for the Future state then.

 Thanks

 and who's Abdul Carter .....

[RichRiderBills]

7 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Except that it’s not a particularly strong CB class - and as we are seeing in the TSW mock, no guarantee that even an overage under-experienced prospect like Porter is available in round 2.

 

I've heard wide opinion on the quality of CBs in the draft. Given the Bills usually like zone corners...I think we will find plenty of options. 

[Nihilarian]

From Joe Marino and "Locked on Bills"

 

1st round 50%

2nd round 33%

3rd round 16%

4th round 8%

5th round 4%

6th round 2%

7th round 1 1/2%

 

• 20 years of drafting and what percentage become solid NFL starters?
• So, even when you think you know...you never know! 
• The NFL draft is like a box O chocolates...

[jahnyc]

So is this really a strong draft for DL (DE and DT) or is that the other positions on offense and defense are just very weak (which elevates the DL class)?  

 

Also wondering how some of these WRs would compare (and where would they be drafted) in the supposedly strong WR draft group from last year.  Would Golden, McMillan and Egbuka (likely the top three WRs in this year's draft other than maybe Hunter) have had first round grades in the 2024 draft?  Would they have had a higher grade than Coleman?

[No_Matter_What]

3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

4.5  40?  Come on now

Here’s a list of players that the Bills met with at the combine per various media reports. 

 

Florida State DT Joshua Farmer

Michigan DT Kenneth Grant

Ole Miss DT Walter Nolen

Oregon DT Jamaree Caldwell

Texas DT Alfred Collins

Texas DT Vernon Broughton

Arkansas DE Landon Jackson

Marshall DE Mike Green

Michigan DE Josaiah Stewart

Ole Miss LB Chris “Pooh” Paul Jr.

Georgia WR Arian Smith

Miami WR Xavier Restrepo

TCU WR Savion Williams

Texas WR Matthew Golden

Texas WR Isaiah Bond

Georgia RB Trevor Etienne

Oregon RB Jordan James

Texas RB Jaydon Blue

Georgia S Malaki Starks

Notre Dame S Xavier Watts

PSU S Jaylen Reed

South Carolina S Nick Emmanwori

Syracuse S Alijah Clark

Texas S Andrew Mukuba

This almost looks like that at the combine Beane expected to fill CB hole at the free agency and then something went wrong.

[OldTimer1960]

11 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

This almost looks like that at the combine Beane expected to fill CB hole at the free agency and then something went wrong.

I understand your conclusion, but they have other chances to meet players as well.  That doesn’t mean you’re wrong, but I would hope that they would look at CBs even if they planned to sign a veteran.

[nosejob]

3 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm not trading a 2026 first for that.

2026 PICK 30-32 IS WORTHLESS compared to building a solid draft this year. Trading back is futile. Now;s the time to pull out 4 starters in this draft.

[Dr. Who]

2 minutes ago, nosejob said:

2026 PICK 30-32 IS WORTHLESS compared to building a solid draft this year. Trading back is futile. Now;s the time to pull out 4 starters in this draft.

I don't think it requires trading the 2026 1st, and if that was on the table, it would have to be as part of a move into the top of the draft for an elite player at a position that warrants that kind of expenditure. You don't agree. I understand that. 

Edited Sunday at 12:50 AM by Dr. Who

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, nosejob said:

2026 PICK 30-32 IS WORTHLESS compared to building a solid draft this year. Trading back is futile. Now;s the time to pull out 4 starters in this draft.

#30 and our top 2nd gets us to Seattle's pick if they are willing to trade.  

 

I don't think it's worth it.  We need to hit on our top 3 picks and maybe find a way to trade into the 3rd and hit on that.

[JGMcD2]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Wow.  Beane's hit on round 3 to 7 at a pretty high clip then (Brown, Knox, T. Johnson, Davis, Shakir, Benford, Teller (ughhhh), Bernard, and Bass (if you want to count him)).  Even Hamlin (6th) and Jackson (7th) are at least high end backups.  Wish he was better in the first two rounds though.

This is 7 years of Brandon Beane, with #8 coming up. He is outperforming the league averages, and no reason to believe he won’t do it again this year. 

 

If we’re realistic with ourselves, there are guys below that can find their way into the “Solid Starter” category too. Kincaid, Coleman, Bishop, Williams, R. Davis, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger and Grable all have a realistic shot. 

 

66% (50%) in RD1 (4/6)

 

Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Rousseau

Elam, Kincaid

 

43% (33%) in RD2 (3/7)

 

Epenesa, Cook, Torrence

Ford, Basham, Coleman, Bishop

 

38% (19%) in RD3 (3/8)

 

Phillips, Brown, Bernard

Singletary, Knox, Moss, Williams, Carter

 

66% (8%) in RD4 (2/3)

 

G. Davis, Johnson

R. Davis 

 

20% (4%) in RD5 (2/10)

 

Teller, Shakir

Neal, Joseph, Fromm, Doyle, Shorter, Ulofoshio, Solomon, Van Pran-Granger

 

27% (2%) in RD6 (3/11)

 

Benford, Hamlin, Bass
Grable, Hardy, Tenuta, Stevenson, Wildgoose, Hodgins, Johnson, McCloud

 

11% (1.5%) in RD 7 (1/9) 

 

Jackson
Proehl, Sweeney, Johnson, Anderson, Spector, Austin, Broeker, Clayton

 

Edited Sunday at 11:41 AM by JGMcD2

[OldTimer1960]

15 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I'm not trading a 2026 first for that.

I would not do that trade either, but I think a late 2nd this year is about what the Bills’ 2026 first would get in trade.

[dave mcbride]

On 4/4/2025 at 3:35 PM, Bill from NYC said:

I don't know how others feel but I cannot remember a draft class that I thought was weaker than this one, and I'm not sure why. 

 

NIL? Transfer Portal? I don't have an answer.

I think it’s because of the lack of qbs. It’s a terrible qb draft from the looks of it. I don’t think NIL and transfers have anything to do with it; indeed, the transfer portal is GOOD for the draft because it gives playing time to good players who are otherwise stuck on the bench at Alabama/Georgia/Ohio State. Bo Nix and Michael Penix became much better qbs by playing in multiple systems.

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I would not do that trade either, but I think a late 2nd this year is about what the Bills’ 2026 first would get in trade.

Yes, that's likely. I think the general rule of thumb is drop a round, and everyone will figure the Bills will finish among the better teams.

[mannc]

16 hours ago, nosejob said:

I've said this elsewhere ...trade pick 29-32 (2026) for a few spots up from 62 and a 3rd. There are teams with more than 1 pick in each round, it's kinda simple.

Stay at 30 ...go Nolan, Collins and Porter. Get a 3rd for Thornton and use those later picks the best we can. This is driving me nuts. With 2 4s and 3 5ths, we should be able to come away with 4 starters.

What are you talking about?  Seems incoherent…