Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[Ralonzo]

CB has an inherent position premium in the draft, and conversely 1-techs are devalued. Similarly graded, you take the CB first. If the lineman is graded higher, have the discussion.

[Thrivefourfive]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

I don’t think there’s any question that he COULD play both full time.  I also don’t think there’s any question that he would be riddled with injury and his career could take a turn for the worse if he does.  Odds are that his body would break down.

No question? ☺️ Why? Nobody has ever done it. What makes him so special? 

[Dr. Who]

19 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

No question? ☺️ Why? Nobody has ever done it. What makes him so special? 

It was done in the era before hyper-specialization. Go look up Bronko Nagurksi, for instance.

[Thrivefourfive]

19 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

It was done in the era before hyper-specialization. Go look up Bronko Nagurksi, for instance.

Got it. I’m no BB, but I know that. It’s been awhile, agreed? Like since the advent of the TV 🤣

 

Some team might just allow him to be a novelty to sell tickets. Everybody here, so far, acting like that doesn’t happen. 

[NewEra]

40 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

No question? ☺️ Why? Nobody has ever done it. What makes him so special? 

I don’t think there’s any question that he’s a good enough of a WR and CB to play both sides.  His skill is what makes him so special.  
 

I just don’t believe his body is so special that he would be able to do it for very long.  Might not even make it a couple games.  

[frogger]

didn't want to put it as a new topic, but the Sporting News released their Mock draft, and honestly if this draft happened, I would be happy.

 

Round 1-DT Derrick Harmon

round 2-Pick 56: TRADE to Saints for WR Chris Olave

Round 2, Pick 62: CB Darien Porter, Iowa State

Round 4, Pick 109: EDGE Kaimon Rucker, North Carolina-not my favorite pick, but honesty, I would take him as the 4th/5th DE

Round 4, Pick 132: LB Kobe King, Penn State- better than Spector...pretty productive

Round 5, Pick 169: DB Upton Stout, Western Kentucky-undersized, slot corner

Round 5, Pick 173: WR Tai Felton, Maryland-6'1" sub 4.4 speed and productive in college...this would be a steal here

Round 6, Pick 177: TE Oronde Gadsden II, Syracuse-athletic TE, dad was a Dolphin

Round 6, Pick 206: RB Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State-I am not sure if there is a place for him on the team, but maybe they can IR him and keep him for a year.

[Cash]

21 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

yea we going BIG   
 

Also note the past tense comments on DaQuan

 

20 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Right now, I think DQ is an insurance policy at DT1.

We'll see after the draft what happens to him.

He's 34 and may retire if the Bills tell him they have to move on.

A June 1st designation nets $5.5M which would take Beane into the season without any restructures.

 

I really didn't get that impression out of this video.  Seemed to me like he wanted to make sure Parrino got some quotes for his story, but at the same time say nothing at all.  Maybe I missed something, but it sounded like McD just boiled down to "we evaluate and we have decisions to make and the draft is important".  Which, yeah very true on all counts, but also so generic that it's useless.

 

On my end, I'm fairly concerned about our DT position.  At this point, the FO doesn't have my full benefit of the doubt on that front.  They've thrown a lot of resources at the D-line, and had some successes, but enough failures that I'm not willing to give them carte blanche.

 

Looking at the roster now, we have:

-Ed Oliver, 3tech only, in his prime

-Daquon Jones, 1tech only, past his prime and we could use an upgrade

-DeWayne Carter, mostly 3tech (maybe 1tech on passing downs?), entering his 2nd year after a mostly-forgettable rookie year

-Larry Ogunjobi, mostly 3tech, journeyman FA and suspended for the first 6 games

-And that's it

 

I think, or at least hope, it's a safe bet that we'll draft a 1tech at some point.  If we don't, I may panic.  My worry is that they think Carter or Ogunjobi can play 1tech full time, and that they're way wrong about it.  Hopefully I'm wrong and they draft a 1tech who can play right away, but we'll see.

 

Regardless of what they do in the draft, it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where we open the 2025 season with only rookies at 1tech DT.  I think Jones is about as close to a roster lock as an aging vet could be at this point.

[biggerdaddynj]

53 minutes ago, Cash said:

 

 

I really didn't get that impression out of this video.  Seemed to me like he wanted to make sure Parrino got some quotes for his story, but at the same time say nothing at all.  Maybe I missed something, but it sounded like McD just boiled down to "we evaluate and we have decisions to make and the draft is important".  Which, yeah very true on all counts, but also so generic that it's useless.

 

On my end, I'm fairly concerned about our DT position.  At this point, the FO doesn't have my full benefit of the doubt on that front.  They've thrown a lot of resources at the D-line, and had some successes, but enough failures that I'm not willing to give them carte blanche.

 

Looking at the roster now, we have:

-Ed Oliver, 3tech only, in his prime

-Daquon Jones, 1tech only, past his prime and we could use an upgrade

-DeWayne Carter, mostly 3tech (maybe 1tech on passing downs?), entering his 2nd year after a mostly-forgettable rookie year

-Larry Ogunjobi, mostly 3tech, journeyman FA and suspended for the first 6 games

-And that's it

 

I think, or at least hope, it's a safe bet that we'll draft a 1tech at some point.  If we don't, I may panic.  My worry is that they think Carter or Ogunjobi can play 1tech full time, and that they're way wrong about it.  Hopefully I'm wrong and they draft a 1tech who can play right away, but we'll see.

 

Regardless of what they do in the draft, it's hard for me to imagine a scenario where we open the 2025 season with only rookies at 1tech DT.  I think Jones is about as close to a roster lock as an aging vet could be at this point.

 

Hopefully, we can nab a true 1Tech in the 3rd (with a trade) or 4th like Caldwell, CJ West, J.Phillips or Farmer (a 3Tech who seems to be a potential 1Tech). I’d like multiple DTs in the best DT draft in years. 

[section122]

12 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said:

 

Hopefully, we can nab a true 1Tech in the 3rd (with a trade) or 4th like Caldwell, CJ West, J.Phillips or Farmer (a 3Tech who seems to be a potential 1Tech). I’d like multiple DTs in the best DT draft in years. 

 

Me too.  I want 2 big fat rookies to anchor the middle of the line.  1 early and 1 late.  None of these 290 something DTs I want 310+ at a minimum lol.

 

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

get me some beef

[No_Matter_What]

2 hours ago, frogger said:

didn't want to put it as a new topic, but the Sporting News released their Mock draft, and honestly if this draft happened, I would be happy.

 

Round 1-DT Derrick Harmon

round 2-Pick 56: TRADE to Saints for WR Chris Olave

Round 2, Pick 62: CB Darien Porter, Iowa State

Round 4, Pick 109: EDGE Kaimon Rucker, North Carolina-not my favorite pick, but honesty, I would take him as the 4th/5th DE

Round 4, Pick 132: LB Kobe King, Penn State- better than Spector...pretty productive

Round 5, Pick 169: DB Upton Stout, Western Kentucky-undersized, slot corner

Round 5, Pick 173: WR Tai Felton, Maryland-6'1" sub 4.4 speed and productive in college...this would be a steal here

Round 6, Pick 177: TE Oronde Gadsden II, Syracuse-athletic TE, dad was a Dolphin

Round 6, Pick 206: RB Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State-I am not sure if there is a place for him on the team, but maybe they can IR him and keep him for a year.

Lol where did this come from

[Gary Marangi]

17 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Lol where did this come from

Sporting News released their Mock draft

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, frogger said:

didn't want to put it as a new topic, but the Sporting News released their Mock draft, and honestly if this draft happened, I would be happy.

 

Round 1-DT Derrick Harmon

round 2-Pick 56: TRADE to Saints for WR Chris Olave

Round 2, Pick 62: CB Darien Porter, Iowa State

Round 4, Pick 109: EDGE Kaimon Rucker, North Carolina-not my favorite pick, but honesty, I would take him as the 4th/5th DE

Round 4, Pick 132: LB Kobe King, Penn State- better than Spector...pretty productive

Round 5, Pick 169: DB Upton Stout, Western Kentucky-undersized, slot corner

Round 5, Pick 173: WR Tai Felton, Maryland-6'1" sub 4.4 speed and productive in college...this would be a steal here

Round 6, Pick 177: TE Oronde Gadsden II, Syracuse-athletic TE, dad was a Dolphin

Round 6, Pick 206: RB Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma State-I am not sure if there is a place for him on the team, but maybe they can IR him and keep him for a year.

I'm not upset with that. Ollie G can make this team. He is a stud back, OkSt. In general sucked last year.

[No_Matter_What]

33 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said:

Sporting News released their Mock draft

Yeah I can see it I bolded Olave trade and asked where that idea came from.

 

I don't remember any trade rumors related to him.

[That's No Moon]

55 minutes ago, Gary Marangi said:

Sporting News released their Mock draft

Do they have actual humans or is it AI generated?

[Logic]

24 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Yeah I can see it I bolded Olave trade and asked where that idea came from.

 

I don't remember any trade rumors related to him.

One of the Matts (Parrino? Bove?) recently brought up the idea of the Bills trading for Chris Olave or Jordan Addison on his podcast. It was followed up by some Twitter accounts of varying (but predominantly scant) credibility claiming things were happening behind the scenes.

As far as I can tell, no actual, credible reporting is suggesting that this is going to happen. I think it's just content creators connecting the dots between WRs about whom there have been trade chatter and a team with extra draft picks, in order to fill the long weeks until the draft.

I'd love if it happened, don't get me wrong. I'd be so thrilled. I just...don't really buy that there's anything to it other than bored writers looking for clicks.

[HappyDays]

This gives Jermaine Burton vibes. I wouldn't touch him in the 1st round.

[Bruffalo]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

This gives Jermaine Burton vibes. I wouldn't touch him in the 1st round.

EDGE just doesn't feel like a position I'd expect the Bills to take in the first round of this draft, but maybe I'm naive here.

 

CB-DT-WR just feels like the player would have way more impact immediately, based on (potential) snap count alone.

[SoonerBillsFan]

12 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

EDGE just doesn't feel like a position I'd expect the Bills to take in the first round of this draft, but maybe I'm naive here.

 

CB-DT-WR just feels like the player would have way more impact immediately, based on (potential) snap count alone.

Agreed

[NI Bills Fan]

I'm not so sure... I think the order of need is CB-DT-DE-WR