Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[3rdand12]

On 3/30/2025 at 6:18 PM, gonzo1105 said:

I’m not sure we’re going to have to trade up to get Grant to be honest 

It's too early to call. Hoping he makes it to thirty and Beanes secures that.

 But there are some fine players who would make us all happy I bet.

if Bills stick to 30 pick\ I sure as heck wouldn't  let Grant and then a few others  , get past 30

This could be a fine draft for the Bills !

 Hoping you are right on that 1105 !

Then the hard work needs to get done for the second round picks. Grant makes it to 30 ? The second round , Bills would do well to gather up two more sure fire 2025 players. Can be done

 Go Bills

On 3/30/2025 at 6:23 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

Yeah I'm sure Beane feels he can find better later in the draft.  History shows no... but it's how Beane does stuff. 

😋

[3rdand12]

21 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I don’t think we should shy away from Harmon just because he doesn’t fit the “true 1 tech” narrative…

 

Bottom line- talent is talent, and definitely worth our first round selection if he’s there at 30…

 

At worst, he would be an upgrade over Oliver…

 

 

at worst ?

That's how we look at the 1st round pick ?  LOL

Noticed the semi sarcasm Ja. 😇

They can find a big guy who can hold the line later on and I suggest they do score a honest between the Guards DT. Grant has upside it seems 1st round upside

Oliver needs Grant like the Flowers need the Rain

 

11 hours ago, DCofNC said:

There is never a bad time to land a franchise QB, even if it’s only as trade bait.

dude

we are trying to win the superbowl pretty soon here. 

 Get a grip  😂

[3rdand12]

10 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

People need to realize the Bills don’t prefer big space eaters even at 1T. Harmon or other guys in the 310 range could easily play the 1 here. I think it’s possible you see Carter playing both this year with more 1T than last year 

gonzo, This is the defensive tweak i have been eluding to all along

 and yes I have to agree with your points about Bills logic up till now.

Bills Defense needs to adjust what they have been doing

Shut down front four would do wonders and the pressure needs to start at the middle in the run game and trickles back to the pass game as the edges etcs will play be more effective when Bills bulk up on that a- b gap crap

 My fantasy and I am running with it till after the draft 😃

Edited Monday at 11:22 PM by 3rdand12

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

looking at their 2024 I’d say it was pretty even all things considered. I’m bias though as I think Hunter is a better WR than DB but he’s damn good at both 

There’s a real philosophical debate if the 10th best WR is more valuable than the second best CB.

[BillsFanForever19]

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Draft Grant & Collins.   

 

Or Harmon & Caldwell. 

 

Immediately transforms the defense having 1 or both on the field at all times IMO

 

You seem to have this hyper fixation with IDL since the Super Bowl. Like ALL of our focus needs to go there bc that's how Phili conquered KC.

 

It's true, we have to do work there. With us only having Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones (who I've gone on record multiple times to say that he should not only not be starting, but maybe not on the team at all), and Dewayne Carter on the roster at the start of the league year - it wasn't even an upgrade thing, it was a neccessity.

 

But the idea that alone is what's going to transform this defense is inaccurate. Yes, the Eagles DL ate. But there were multiple other factors that allowed that. First and foremost, was Phili's wonderfully built secondary and scheme. They completely neutralized KC's ability to get the ball out quickly. This allowed the Line to tee off.  Next was a high powered, star studded offense that scored quickly and at will. This not only made the game out of reach quickly, but made KC a one dimensional passing offense to try and keep up. Allowing the DL to tee off further.

 

Yes, we need to get DL help. But we also need Secondary help and offensive firepower help. If we were to put all our focus on the DL, then Mahomes would simply be able to do what he's always done against us. Which is getting the ball out quickly, targeting the side of the field that has Dane Jackson or a Day 3 Rookie (as most of your mocks have us doing) as well as beyond that where we have some uninspiring combination of Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop, and Forrest.

 

If you load up on DL alone and leave the rest of the Secondary outside of Benford with subpar to average at best defenders - that DL is not going to be able to do what Phili did. And if you roll out the same Offensive Firepower (minus Cooper and Hollins, plus Palmer), then we're also hard pressed to do what Phili did, which is put the score out of hand quickly. Without them becoming one dimensional, our DL won't be able to become one dimensional like Phili's did either.

 

All this to say, we need at least one (if not two) of those first 3 picks in the first 2 Rounds to be something other than DL. Especially when 3 of the 4 bigger signings we made this offseason were already focused on the DL. DL alone didn't make that Super Bowl what it was. 

[gonzo1105]

24 minutes ago, FireChans said:

There’s a real philosophical debate if the 10th best WR is more valuable than the second best CB.

Again I have stated that DB is more valuable than WR. The posters point was that the route tree success was in part because Hunter sees more quality WRs than DBs in College. I disagreed with this point and showed who are NFL caliber players that he faced on Colorados 2024 schedule.  I’m not arguing that he is going to play DB and be drafted as such. As it pertains to the player I think he’s a better WR right now than DB

[finn]

Bottom line: We need a CB far more desperately than a DT, DE., or WR You could even make an argument for two of the first three picks going to the secondary, it's that thin. Rapp is a placeholder, Bishop is a hope (a good one, I think), and the rest are JAGs. Only Benford is a proven player. Last year's pass rush would have gotten home if we had a stellar secondary. With Hamlin and Douglas? And Elam as CB depth? Even the bawds of euphony would cry out sharply.

[Thrivefourfive]

Hunter. He’s dead set on playing both ways. Full. I’m not doubting him. Crazy things have happened. This would be unprecedented in the Super Bowl era?

[BillsFanForever19]

9 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

If it's true that he's anywhere *near* Jermaine Burton territory, he won't be a Buffalo Bill. And I'd expect him to fall to Day 3.

 

Bond was looked at as a mid to late 2nd Round Prospect without any character concerns. Burton fell to one of the last picks on Day 2 and was a better on field prospect than Bond.

 

I hope that isn't true because I saw him as a good fit both for what he'd bring and where i'd expect him to be Drafted.

[SoCal Deek]

CB and DT. DT and CB. In the end the order won’t mean much. The Bills need to get two starters out of those first two picks….period! 

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

CB and DT. DT and CB. In the end the order won’t mean much. The Bills need to get two starters out of those first two picks….period! 

That's the facts Jack!!! Even if it means moving up with one of the second round picks in order to do so.

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

CB and DT. DT and CB. In the end the order won’t mean much. The Bills need to get two starters out of those first two picks….period! 

No, if the 6th rounder (Benford type) outplays the 1st rounder (Elam type) it doesn't matter.

[Pete]

DT, DE, CB, WR.  We need 4 play makers at each position IMO.  Who is WR 1?  Palmer?  Than who is WR 2?  I like our 4 WRs, but we sure could use a stud 5th WR!

[TheBeaneBandit]

40 minutes ago, Pete said:

DT, DE, CB, WR.  We need 4 play makers at each position IMO.  Who is WR 1?  Palmer?  Than who is WR 2?  I like our 4 WRs, but we sure could use a stud 5th WR!

While I agree it's going to be nearly impossible to nail all them positions where they completely solve the problem. Here's to hoping and dreaming though lol

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

That's the facts Jack!!! Even if it means moving up with one of the second round picks in order to do so.

No way. You don't sacrifice one of our 2nds.

[nosejob]

20 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

That’s taking some big risk waiting for CB unless they have a vet free agent fallback lined up (like re-signing Douglas or Stephon Gilmore).

 

My guess is that if there is a plausible CB like Amos or possibly even Thomas that will be the pick at 30.  The drop off at DT in back of round 2 looks less steep than does the CB drop off there.  Just my guess, though.  They would likely be very tempted if Grant or Harmon were still available at 30.

Yeah, if I had to put money on it, I'd bet on CB with 1st pick..uggh

[Solomon Grundy]

25 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

While I agree it's going to be nearly impossible to nail all them positions where they completely solve the problem. Here's to hoping and dreaming though lol

Beane found Benford in the 6th, think he can't find one with one of the 4th? I'm with @Warriorspikes51,get me Grant/Collins or the two DTs from Oregon with my first two picks. Safety or Edge with the 3rd pick. Dominant pressure on the QB is a CBs best friend 

[TheBeaneBandit]

31 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

No way. You don't sacrifice one of our 2nds.

No no not sacrificing a second. Using one of our fourths maybe a fifth and even a 4th or 5th next year to move up higher with one of the seconds in the round to ensure you get a guy who can make a difference. I think we almost have to do this to guarantee we get the leftover position we don't go in the first round such as corner or defensive tackle to get a guy who can come in and help this year.

15 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Beane found Benford in the 6th, think he can't find one with one of the 4th? I'm with @Warriorspikes51,get me Grant/Collins or the two DTs from Oregon with my first two picks. Safety or Edge with the 3rd pick. Dominant pressure on the QB is a CBs best friend 

Once again you can only expect to get lucky in those mid rounds every few years or so. I'm not saying it can't happen, but you can't count on it either. For every Milano or Christian benford there's a four year gap or so before finding someone like that in the mid rounds again.

[Solomon Grundy]

30 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

No no not sacrificing a second. Using one of our fourths maybe a fifth and even a 4th or 5th next year to move up higher with one of the seconds in the round to ensure you get a guy who can make a difference. I think we almost have to do this to guarantee we get the leftover position we don't go in the first round such as corner or defensive tackle to get a guy who can come in and help this year.

Once again you can only expect to get lucky in those mid rounds every few years or so. I'm not saying it can't happen, but you can't count on it either. For every Milano or Christian benford there's a four year gap or so before finding someone like that in the mid rounds again.

Can you ensure that such player is there? The Bills thought that of Elam. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Can you ensure that such player is there? The Bills thought that of Elam. 

No such thing as a sure thing when it comes to the draft, but I feel the eyes are a lot higher in the top of the second round then the bottom when it comes to defensive tackle or cornerback. Later in the round I think you could still get a defensive end or wide receiver who just needs a little bit more polishing than normal but still has decent upside. I have a feeling defensive tackle and cornerback are going to fly off the shelves like hotcakes this draft. After the Eagles performance in the super bowl you're going to see copycat League in full effect this draft when it comes to defensive tackle.

Edited 17 hours ago by TheBeaneBandit