Bills Related Draft News & Discussion

[ColoradoBills]

37 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

As a fan who never played football at any level. I don't remember hearing about 1Ts and 3Ts until the lead-up to the 2019 draft. Now we're hearing about this again because it appears that the Bills are in the DT market. The way I understand it is that a 1T lines up over the center more or less. In other words, a NT in a 3-4. A 3T lines up over one of the guards. Then, the DE/EDGE guys line up against the OTs. So, in the run game the 1T is primarily responsible for clogging up the middle and stopping any runs through the A gap. Am I correct in this? 

 

I like this site for us "average" fans to get an understanding.

Here is one on Defensive alignments and positional responsibilities with the pros and cons.

 

 

[HappyDays]

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

sheesh Texas WR's 

[biggerdaddynj]

3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

It doesn’t matter what you want though.  They drafted Phillips at 1T and he’s 307 pounds. Jones is 315, the only big 1T we had was Star and people got mad because he couldnt rush the passer or make splash plays for the about we were paying him. 
 

They want DL at every position who has movement skills and can rush the passer. That’s more important to them than clogging a run lane. Grant fits that because he has movement ability but fatties like Desmond Watson provide nothing to the Bills 

Barring Grant, has Beane once again locked himself into having to take a CB with our first pick (at 30 or risking a small trade down into the top of round two) because the earlier choices at CB presumably have a better chance at being quicker/better understudies for CB2, which I think is imperative with Dane Jackson our current top CB2 this season.
 

Other than Porter, who has skills but is a project, or perhaps one other straggler, it seems like the drop off at CB from late first/early two to 56 or 62 consists of players who should be available in round four or with a small trade up—like Bryant, Parrish, Williams, Alexander.
 

Now, if CB is our likely first pick (other than Grant), do you think that Beane can/will take a true 1Tech like a CJ West, Caldwell, Jordan Phillips on day three?  They can definitely bolster the run and seem to have some pass rush ability/potential the scheme requires.

 

This is the draft for Beane to double dip at DT getting younger more athletic players on rookie deals who can help free up Oliver and I’m trying to figure out how this might play out within the confines of our likely scheme’s restrictions.

Any feedback appreciated!

Edited Monday at 05:55 PM by biggerdaddynj

[DJB]

 

Best special teams player round 1 confirmed 

[DJB]

On 3/28/2025 at 7:27 AM, NewEra said:

You think he’s a better WR than corner huh?  I hadn’t heard anyone say that yet. Not disagreeing, as I’ve only watched a couple highlight tapes of him because he’s not really worth scouting as a potential Bills pick.  seems like the consensus says he’s a better corner.  
 

 

 

 

 

Also @GunnerBill

 

Yes he played in Colorado and the competition wasn’t great . But I’m confident this guy can be a star WR. I still have the same stance he will make a better WR than DB.

 

His career will be fascinating to watch 

[Warriorspikes51]

15 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

Best special teams player round 1 confirmed 

 

This is mildly upsetting. They will place more emphasis on it than most serious teams.  We'll draft a 4th rounder only for ST and nothing else 

 

 

[DJB]

 

[TheBeaneBandit]

37 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Yowzers! Those guys from Texas though are the definition of pampered. The definition of entitled.

[NewEra]

25 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

 

 

Also @GunnerBill

 

Yes he played in Colorado and the competition wasn’t great . But I’m confident this guy can be a star WR. I still have the same stance he will make a better WR than DB.

 

His career will be fascinating to watch 

Impressive for sure.  

 

Overall, I just think he loses value for the team that drafts him if he plays WR full time. He can play corner full time while also playing 12-20 snaps on O.  
 

If he plays WR full time, does he play any corner?  Or do they play at corner on obvious passing 3rd down and 4th downs?

 

 

 

[DCofNC]

6 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Except when there isn't a franchise QB to be had.   This is not the draft to be in need of a franchise QB, maybe not even a backup.

Just remember, AAron Rodgers dropped deep into the first, Lamar Jackson was the last pick of the first, etc.  these are first ballot HOF QBs that fell because people didn’t think they were the guy, the teams that picked them regret nothing.  The same could be said of Jordan love.  On the other hand the draft class which landed JA was considered one of the best ever at the time of the draft and the 3rd and 5th guys taken turned out great, the others average at best.   So to say there isn’t a franchise QB in this draft is no sure thing.   Dart looks like the best prospect to me, but I don’t know crap and can admit that. 

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, biggerdaddynj said:

Barring Grant, has Beane once again locked himself into having to take a CB with our first pick (at 30 or risking a small trade down into the top of round two) because the earlier choices at CB presumably have a better chance at being quicker/better understudies for CB2, which I think is imperative with Dane Jackson our current top CB2 this season.
 

Other than Porter, who has skills but is a project, or perhaps one other straggler, it seems like the drop off at CB from late first/early two to 56 or 62 consists of players who should be available in round four or with a small trade up—like Bryant, Parrish, Williams, Alexander.
 

Now, if CB is our likely first pick (other than Grant), do you think that Beane can/will take a true 1Tech like a CJ West, Caldwell, Jordan Phillips on day three?  They can definitely bolster the run and seem to have some pass rush ability/potential the scheme requires.

 

This is the draft for Beane to double dip at DT getting younger more athletic players on rookie deals who can help free up Oliver and I’m trying to figure out how this might play out within the confines of our likely scheme’s restrictions.

Any feedback appreciated!

IDK, Golden, Embuka, Starks...not Tony, or Emmanwori sitting there at 30 is hard....but I;d much rather grab the best DL that I can early and concentrate on DB after.

Grant/ Harmon   Princely , Porter at 62 and then Thornton. Would be nice to get Ivey, a good Lb and DB prospects later.  BTW, big believer in Doulac.  I do not want to hear the words..."lunch pail ". for any of our picks.

Edited Monday at 07:20 PM by nosejob

[OldTimer1960]

8 minutes ago, nosejob said:

IDK, Golden, Embuka, Starks...not Tony, or Emmanwori sitting there at 30 is hard....but I;d much rather grab the best DL that I can early and concentrate on DB after.

Grant/ Harmon   Princely , Porter at 62 and then Thornton.

That’s taking some big risk waiting for CB unless they have a vet free agent fallback lined up (like re-signing Douglas or Stephon Gilmore).

 

My guess is that if there is a plausible CB like Amos or possibly even Thomas that will be the pick at 30.  The drop off at DT in back of round 2 looks less steep than does the CB drop off there.  Just my guess, though.  They would likely be very tempted if Grant or Harmon were still available at 30.

[gonzo1105]

2 hours ago, biggerdaddynj said:

Barring Grant, has Beane once again locked himself into having to take a CB with our first pick (at 30 or risking a small trade down into the top of round two) because the earlier choices at CB presumably have a better chance at being quicker/better understudies for CB2, which I think is imperative with Dane Jackson our current top CB2 this season.
 

Other than Porter, who has skills but is a project, or perhaps one other straggler, it seems like the drop off at CB from late first/early two to 56 or 62 consists of players who should be available in round four or with a small trade up—like Bryant, Parrish, Williams, Alexander.
 

Now, if CB is our likely first pick (other than Grant), do you think that Beane can/will take a true 1Tech like a CJ West, Caldwell, Jordan Phillips on day three?  They can definitely bolster the run and seem to have some pass rush ability/potential the scheme requires.

 

This is the draft for Beane to double dip at DT getting younger more athletic players on rookie deals who can help free up Oliver and I’m trying to figure out how this might play out within the confines of our likely scheme’s restrictions.

Any feedback appreciated!

I mean obviously what I think may not happen but I do believe that Buffalo is going to go CB at 30 unless a DL is there that they just can’t pass on. I’m not even sure if Kenneth Grant is that DL. 
 

I think ideally Trey Amos is their guy at 30. Perfect fit for the Bills and an immediate starter. 
 

It seems like they really like Josh Farmer who I believe will be available at their 2nd round picks who is a combo DT. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they move up slightly in the 2nd to get the DL they want whether Edge or interior and then trade back from 62 into the 3rd. 
 

I will say this as well, with Will Johnson not testing at all and questions about his speed combined with a 2024 that didn’t have the hype of 2023 and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Amos and possibly even Hairston goes before him.

Edited Monday at 07:55 PM by gonzo1105

[nosejob]

1 hour ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Yowzers! Those guys from Texas though are the definition of pampered. The definition of entitled.

Yeah,,,Burton will be the next Tee Higgins....and I worry about Baker and Polk in NE.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, DJB said:

 

 

 

Also @GunnerBill

 

Yes he played in Colorado and the competition wasn’t great . But I’m confident this guy can be a star WR. I still have the same stance he will make a better WR than DB.

 

His career will be fascinating to watch 

Yeah he has fantastic numbers at wide receiver but he also didn't go up against quality cornerbacks usually 

 

There's 700+ division 1 corners... There's really only 45-55 good ones that can give an NFL quality player a battle 

 

He played against a lot more nfl wide receivers than he did going up against NFL level corners... He might have star potential at wide receiver but he has Superstar potential at corner 100% with his traits and being groomed by deion

 

He can play press man , off man , outside leverage inside leverage, cloud coverages quarters coverages.. they don't make guys that complete at that age

Edited Monday at 08:19 PM by Buffalo716

[QLBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

sheesh Texas WR's 

But does he have a mancave dedicated to himself? And a Rolls on a rookie contract to attract his next angry GF 🤷🏻‍♂️🫢.. I didn’t think so 😆!!!

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Yeah he has fantastic numbers at wide receiver but he also didn't go up against quality cornerbacks usually 

 

There's 700+ division 1 corners... There's really only 45-55 good ones that can give an NFL quality player a battle 

 

He played against a lot more nfl wide receivers than he did going up against NFL level corners... He might have star potential at wide receiver but he has Superstar potential at corner 100% with his traits and being groomed by deion

 

He can play press man , off man , outside leverage inside leverage, cloud coverages quarters coverages.. they don't make guys that complete at that age

looking at their 2024 I’d say it was pretty even all things considered. I’m bias though as I think Hunter is a better WR than DB but he’s damn good at both 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

looking at their 2024 I’d say it was pretty even all things considered. I’m bias though as I think Hunter is a better WR than DB but he’s damn good at both 

Football has a massive growth process.. and every single position is different 

 

It's a lot easier to play wide receiver than to play cornerback and look good... Playing with a first round pick quarterback who has been groomed by Tom Brady... 

 

He has a lot of things going for him to make him look really good at wide receiver.. that intrinsically does not mean he is better at wide receiver

 

It's a astin Martin vs a Ford mustang GT ... Both great cars... Both look great and perform... One is higher quality 

 

There's not a lot of cornerbacks his age that have his skill set.. there are wide receivers at his age across drafts with his skill set... His corner skill set is harder to find

Edited Monday at 09:59 PM by Buffalo716

[gonzo1105]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Football has a massive growth process.. and every single position is different 

 

It's a lot easier to play wide receiver than to play cornerback and look good... Playing with a first round pick quarterback who has been groomed by Tom Brady... 

 

He has a lot of things going for him to make him look really good at wide receiver.. that intrinsically does not mean he is better at wide receiver

 

It's a astin Martin vs a Ford mustang GT ... Both great cars... Both look great and perform... One is higher quality 

 

There's not a lot of cornerbacks his age that have his skill set.. there are wide receivers at his age across drafts with his skill set... His corner skill set is harder to find

Im not saying he’s more valuable at WR than CB he is more valuable as a DB because there are less quality guys. You’re right on that point. That wasn’t my point tho.  hes a better WR than a CB right now in my opinion. 
 

You also brought up that he faced more quality WRs than DBs specifically at the NFL level. I disagreed with that. 
 

NDSU has Bryce Lance 

Nebraska Isaiah Naylor

CO State Tory Horton 

Arizona Tet McMillan 

 

DBs: 

Nebraska Tommi Hill

UCF Mac McWilliams 

Kansas State Marques Sigle 

Kansas Mello Dotson

Kansas Cobee Bryant 

 

That’s all he really saw in 2024 when it comes to legit NFL prospects. Pretty even I’m sure I missed a late round guy or two but he didn’t see more quality NFL comp at DB than he did at WR