Bills 8th most expensive offense in 2025

[transplantbillsfan]

On 3/21/2025 at 6:17 AM, DJB said:

 

Does this blow up the narrative that the Bills aren’t “helping Allen”? 
 

Or does it create new ones that he is getting help? 
 

Or that the $ being allocated on offense isn’t being properly used and it reflects on Beane?

 

On 3/21/2025 at 6:23 AM, MJS said:

The narrative that Josh Allen is doing everything by himself and has no help has always been false. For one thing, the Bills have built a very good oline in front of him. They've made trades for big name receivers (Diggs and Cooper), they've been more balanced on offense and gotten good running production. The narrative is just false and always has been.

 

Edit: All the normal contrarians reacting negatively, I see 😆

 

Are QB contracts is accounted for in these numbers?

 

They're part of the offense so it would only make sense.

 

If so, last offseason in Josh's restructure Beane moved a ton of money into his 2024 season so that I think Josh made like $55-$60m last season.

 

Sorry if that destroys your narrative here, but now find the numbers that subtract QB contracts.

 

Nice try though.

[MJS]

13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Are QB contracts is accounted for in these numbers?

 

They're part of the offense so it would only make sense.

 

If so, last offseason in Josh's restructure Beane moved a ton of money into his 2024 season so that I think Josh made like $55-$60m last season.

 

Sorry if that destroys your narrative here, but now find the numbers that subtract QB contracts.

 

Nice try though.

In 2024 Josh Allen's cap hit was $30.4 million. They restructured him last year and pushed money into later years like they usually do, but not quite the full amount they could have, if I remember correctly.

[transplantbillsfan]

12 hours ago, MJS said:

In 2024 Josh Allen's cap hit was $30.4 million. They restructured him last year and pushed money into later years like they usually do, but not quite the full amount they could have, if I remember correctly.

 

And? 

 

Was this tweet about CAP or actual cash paid to players on offense? 

 

Doesn't specify, does it?

 

And his restructure involved giving him a ton of cash. 

 

I even posted the thread with verified links earlier this season 

 

So... is this CAP or cash???? Big difference of $30m for Josh on that important distinction in the OP

[BullBuchanan]

When you consider we don't have a single star player outside of Allen, that's pretty insane.

[Billy Claude]

Apologies if this was already discussed uptrend.  Dows this in Luke the $31M cap hit for Diggs?  If it does, that explains the #8 ranking for the offense.  If it doesn't, the salary ranking for the defense must have been pretty low.

 

Anybody have the salary ranking for the defense?

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Billy Claude

[GunnerBill]

40 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

And? 

 

Was this tweet about CAP or actual cash paid to players on offense? 

 

Doesn't specify, does it?

 

And his restructure involved giving him a ton of cash. 

 

I even posted the thread with verified links earlier this season 

 

So... is this CAP or cash???? Big difference of $30m for Josh on that important distinction in the OP

 

It's about cap. It's also about 2025. Josh's cap number is $41.3m

 

I have adjusted the list to remove that team's most expensive QB salary and the Bills are 17th. But almost every team that jumped us have a Quarterback on a rookie deal and they don't count really for the Bills to compare against because it is just a fact that you can't spend as much around your QB once you pay your QB. You pay then because they are supposed to be a guy who elevates. So the more relevant rankig for the Bills is in fact 8th.

 

They are 8th among teams that have paid their Quarterback in terms of cap spent on supporting offensive talent in 2025 as of right now.

 

1. Commanders $144.5m (Daniels counts $8.5m)

2. Falcons $142.9m (Cousins counts $40m)

3. Panthers $135.6m (Young counts $10.3m)

4. Chiefs $134.9m (Mahomes counts $28m)

5. Bears $125.2m (Williams counts $8.9m)

6. Vikings $119.2m (McCarthy counts $4.9m)

7. Colts $119m (Jones counts $14.4m)

8. Titans $117.3m (Levis counts $2.6m)

9. Lions $116.1m (Goff counts $32.6m)

10. Eagles $113.1m (Hurts counts $21.8m)

11. Buccaneers $112.2m (Mayfield counts $38.2m)

12. Broncos $112.1m (Nix counts $4.2m)

13. Bengals $111.8m (Burrow counts $46m)

14. Texans $108.6m (Stroud counts $9.8m)

15. Rams $107.9m (Stafford counts $49.6m)

16. 49ers $107.1m (Purdy counts $5.3m)

17. Bills $106.6m (Allen counts $41.3m)

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

Apologies if this was already discussed uptrend.  Dows this in Luke the $31M cap hit for Diggs?  If it does, that explains the #8 ranking for the offense.  If it doesn't, the salary ranking for the defense must have been pretty low.

 

Anybody have the salary ranking for the defense?

 

 

No this is for 2025. The Diggs money was all accounted for in 2024.

[Doc Brown]

23 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

so the highest scoring offense in the league is only the 8th most expensive? 

 

 good management (again) by McBeanes.  

Tenth in yards.  Turnover differential was amazing last year at +24.  Eight better than the second place team.  Only turning it over 8 times is insane.  We had 28 in 2023.  I don't even think we turned it over in the playoffs.  There will be regression to the mean in that department though on both sides of the ball so both units need to be better next season.

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Tenth in yards.  Turnover differential was amazing last year at +24.  Eight better than the second place team.  Only turning it over 8 times is insane.  We had 28 in 2023.  I don't even think we turned it over in the playoffs.  There will be regression to the mean in that department though on both sides of the ball so both units need to be better next season.

 

On offense there is a fair regression to happen. On defense, 32 was a record takeaways year of this regime but we have been in that 26-30 range most years. The Bills have been consistently very good at taking the ball away under McDermott.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

On offense there is a fair regression to happen. On defense, 32 was a record takeaways year of this regime but we have been in that 26-30 range most years. The Bills have been consistently very good at taking the ball away under McDermott.

But what about against the Chiefs in the playoffs?  I kid.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

But what about against the Chiefs in the playoffs?  I kid.

 

They had one in the first AFCCG on special teams. And they had one last year forced fumble at the goalline. Think they are the only two?

[Doc Brown]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They had one in the first AFCCG on special teams. And they had one last year forced fumble at the goalline. Think they are the only two?

Mahomes fumbled a snap I believe in last season's AFCCG.  It was more of a joke that when you point to anything positive this defense has done under McDermott they'll just point to the Chiefs playoff losses to invalidate all of it.

[Sierra Foothills]

On 3/21/2025 at 9:17 AM, DJB said:

Does this blow up the narrative that the Bills aren’t “helping Allen”? 
 

Or does it create new ones that he is getting help? 
 

Or that the $ being allocated on offense isn’t being properly used and it reflects on Beane?

 

On 3/21/2025 at 5:16 PM, BigDingus said:

Isn't a large chunk of that Josh himself?

 

On 3/21/2025 at 5:45 PM, Mister Defense said:

Why not give us the 2024 $ allocated instead, as that is what the post seems to be about, right? We have no idea what will happen in 205 on offense.

 

21 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

Why do you have the 2025 offensive expenditures here, a season yet to be played, and one in which we do not know what the actual $ spent or outcome will be? Without the numbers for 2024 doesn't it make the  last  question you ask in your OP irrelevant? And the other questions too would be much better served with the 2024 numbers--folks will be focused much more on what the last season revealed, than one that has not yet been played.

 

 Can you clarify this, give the actual 2024 money spent and add a new post in the thread maybe? As I looked online and could not find it exactly.

 

But I did find the offensive offensive expenditure for the Bills' offense at the same time last year.

 

In March of last year, the Bills ranked 20th in the league at $116 million for 2024 offensive salaries. Of course, I do not know what the final figure was.

 

An excellent idea for an OP, but the 2024 offensive salaries will make things much clearer, and make it all more relevant.

 

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

And? 

 

Was this tweet about CAP or actual cash paid to players on offense? 

 

Doesn't specify, does it?

 

And his restructure involved giving him a ton of cash. 

 

I even posted the thread with verified links earlier this season

 

So... is this CAP or cash???? Big difference of $30m for Josh on that important distinction in the OP

 

[H2o]

It's crazy that the Eagles are at #12 with Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedert, Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, and Jordan Mailata all getting BIG $$$.

[MJS]

5 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

And? 

 

Was this tweet about CAP or actual cash paid to players on offense? 

 

Doesn't specify, does it?

 

And his restructure involved giving him a ton of cash. 

 

I even posted the thread with verified links earlier this season 

 

So... is this CAP or cash???? Big difference of $30m for Josh on that important distinction in the OP

It's obviously cap.

1 hour ago, H2o said:

It's crazy that the Eagles are at #12 with Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedert, Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, and Jordan Mailata all getting BIG $$$.

Because they kicked the can down the road with void years and how they structured contracts.

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

It's crazy that the Eagles are at #12 with Hurts, Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goedert, Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, and Jordan Mailata all getting BIG $$$.

 

Hurts is their highest cap hit this year at $21.8m.

[FireChans]

35 minutes ago, MJS said:

It's obviously cap.

Because they kicked the can down the road with void years and how they structured contracts.

We could do that.

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

It's obviously cap.

Because they kicked the can down the road with void years and how they structured contracts.

 

Yup, and the Bills could do more of the same, though they do that pretty well overall.

 

Makes sense, if done wisely, because the cap seems to be exploding anyway.  So makes it less risky, less likely the bottom will fall out down the road.

 

 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

We could do that.

We usually do.

47 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

Yup, and the Bills could do more of the same, though they do that pretty well overall.

 

Makes sense, if done wisely, because the cap seems to be exploding anyway.  So makes it less risky, less likely the bottom will fall out down the road.

Yes. It is simple economics. The time value of money. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

Edited 13 hours ago by MJS

[Matt_In_NH]

6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

When you consider we don't have a single star player outside of Allen, that's pretty insane.

Cook  has made 2 straight pro bowls and Dawkins 4 straight.   Spencer Brown is also very under appreciated.   They have an expensive offense and they score more points per game than any year in the teams history...not sure why people think Josh Allen alone can just do that.   PB is not the end all but I don't think your statement is right at all.  I bet you mean "star WR", am I right?

[FireChans]

40 minutes ago, MJS said:

We usually do.

Yes. It is simple economics. The time value of money. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow.

Do we?

 

Is that why Jalen Hurts doesn't have a cap hit of $42M or greater until 2027, meanwhile Josh has a $42M hit now and $61M next season?

 

Is that why Jordan Mailata is a higher paid LT than Dawkins, but has a lower cap hit than him through 2027?