Homelander Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 Elon Musk: A Chinese Puppet? Quote Pleasing the Chinese leadership is key to Musk’s business fortunes. Tesla’s stock price is key to his wealth and it faces daunting competition in China and beyond from BYD. Musk has enormous business interests in China. Much of his wealth is tied up in Tesla stock which, in turn, is dependent on the good will of Chinese officials. After all, Chinese customers account for 40% of Tesla’s global sales. Indeed, pleasing the Chinese leadership is especially important to Musk at this moment with Tesla facing daunting competition from the Chinese EV favorite, BYD. Musk as a U.S. national security risk That Musk’s dependence on China makes him a significant national security risk is a fact that is even acknowledged by U.S. Republicans. In May 2023, for instance, Vivek Ramaswamy — initially his partner in crime at the DOGE office — warned that “Tesla is increasingly beholden to China.” He added that “I have no reason to think Elon won’t jump like a circus monkey when Xi Jinping calls in the hour of need.” Ramaswamy also referred to Musk as a Chinese puppet when posting on X that “the United States needs leaders who aren’t in China’s pocket.” No real wonder then that the two men recently parted ways on the DOGE project. 1
stevestojan Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Can anyone on the right here please explain how you’re OK with this - without just turning this into an insult fest? I get it, I’m a commie, I want giant burly men in every bathroom everywhere, and I’m a useful idiot. That out of the way, can you explain why we shouldn’t find this outrageous? Would love some actual conversation on this section of TBD. 3 1
reddogblitz Posted March 21 Posted March 21 The only reason I can see for them doing this is Trump told them they have to. Why? President Musk has big bidness dealings with China. He has very loose lips. Am thinking maybe they will do the equivalent to the fake walkthrough the Eagles did before Super Bowl LII.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted March 21 Posted March 21 The useful idiots will freak out about this but in reality we don't really know who was making decisions for the Biden administration. But now it's a huge problem. I think homelander needs a new hobby. 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 21 Posted March 21 I would not be surprised if the administration gave this information to a few people they suspected of leaking to the NYT. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I would not be surprised if the administration gave this information to a few people they suspected of leaking to the NYT. It's fake. Part of the psychops strategy of the resistance plan to convince the public of another Democrat created story. This one being that somehow Musk is running the executive branch and all these changes are a secret and nefarious scheme to enrich an already wealthy cabal of unnamed oligarchs. Give it up already. ABC's GMA repeated this fake story this morning say Trump denied the story. Said it was a lie, but... Edited March 21 by All_Pro_Bills
Andy1 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 So this story is going to come down to who you believe. The cult will obviously believe the honesty of their master. Any person with a brain that hasn’t been melted will be at least skeptical of Trump. Unelected Musk is moving into the role of President. In the end, the billionaire class is not concerned about what is good or right for America. These are the people Trump has surrounded himself with. If things go to hell here, they can move to and choose to live wherever they want to. Their alliances are where their financial interests are. Musk isn’t even a natural American so why would anyone trust him? 1
Albwan Posted March 21 Posted March 21 10 hours ago, Homelander said: This is insane. keep day dreaming $#@hole. you are the insane America hating POS> 1 1
sherpa Posted March 21 Posted March 21 This is crazy on so many levels. Just idiotic. Any "Pentagon Plan" re China would completely depend on completely unknown, at this time, factors.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 21 minutes ago, sherpa said: This is crazy on so many levels. Just idiotic. Any "Pentagon Plan" re China would completely depend on completely unknown, at this time, factors. Pentagon war plans, known in military jargon as O-plans or operational plans, are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets. If a foreign country were to learn how the United States planned to fight a war against them, it could reinforce its defenses and address its weaknesses, making the plans far less likely to succeed. The top-secret briefing that exists for the China war plan has about 20 to 30 slides that lay out how the United States would fight such a conflict. It covers the plan beginning with the indications and warning of a threat from China to various options on what Chinese targets to hit, over what time period, that would be presented to Mr. Trump for decisions, according to officials with knowledge of the plan. So you are denying the existence of such pentagon plans? It's also pretty telling that the WSJ printed aa similar story to the NYT. The market is not going to react well. Musk has so many conflicts of interests it makes your head spin. And trump sets up a dealership at the white house while Lutnick tells people Tesla stock is a great investment. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/lutnick-s-pitch-to-buy-tesla-stock-is-unprecedented-and-alarming-historians-say/ar-AA1BldAd THIS IS NOT NORMAL! https://jfsc.ndu.edu/Portals/72/Documents/JC2IOS/DOPC/JP 5_0 Joint Planning.pdf Edited March 21 by Joe Ferguson forever
sherpa Posted March 21 Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So you are denying the existence of such pentagon plans? One of your and Tibs' habits is suggesting, or in his case claiming, something that never occurred. I never denied the existence of such plans. In fact we would adjust some of them based on real time circumstances and capabilities. We would go over them whenever we entered an area of responsibility, ie., when we were near Korea we would go over the entire North Korea thing, and as I said, we would update and adjust them based on real time issues. What I am saying is that even if this was true, in the real world, any "plan" would depend immensely on the situation that day, and who was where, with a massive input from the current administration.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21 Posted March 21 Just now, sherpa said: in the real world, any "plan" would depend immensely on the situation that day, and who was where, with a massive input from the current administration. did you work in the pentagon? Were you privy to "OP's" at this level? Do you believe such a plan including potential Chinese targets exists today? Because I do... Not a fan of Bannon, but if he's correct this would mean our country is for sale. https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-bannon-musk-chinese-communist-1787088. Actually, there's plenty of evidence without this but it its the coup de grace.
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 21 Posted March 21 42 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So this story is going to come down to who you believe. The cult will obviously believe the honesty of their master. Any person with a brain that hasn’t been melted will be at least skeptical of Trump. Unelected Musk is moving into the role of President. In the end, the billionaire class is not concerned about what is good or right for America. These are the people Trump has surrounded himself with. If things go to hell here, they can move to and choose to live wherever they want to. Their alliances are where their financial interests are. Musk isn’t even a natural American so why would anyone trust him? This whole thing is comedy gold- we are in a cult because we don't believe the NYT without concern? Trump went from dictator to Musk being the dictator in record time. Musk is untrustworthy because he is an African? Seriously you are either just trolling or need serious therapy 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: did you work in the pentagon? Were you privy to "OP's" at this level? Do you believe such a plan including potential Chinese targets exists today? Because I do... Not a fan of Bannon, but if he's correct this would mean our country is for sale. https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-bannon-musk-chinese-communist-1787088. Actually, there's plenty of evidence without this but it its the coup de grace. Just to check, are you now claiming that you worked at the Pentagon? Just the way it is written it is unclear. 1 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This whole thing is comedy gold- we are in a cult because we don't believe the NYT without concern? Trump went from dictator to Musk being the dictator in record time. Musk is untrustworthy because he is an African? Seriously you are either just trolling or need serious therapy 10 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This whole thing is comedy gold- we are in a cult because we don't believe the NYT without concern? Trump went from dictator to Musk being the dictator in record time. Musk is untrustworthy because he is an African? Seriously you are either just trolling or need serious therapy Don't you find it alarming that an unelected billionaire with ties to nearly every major military power stands next to the prez in the oval office and spouts policy? with his son X at his side. Do you trust the WSJ? let's see what the market thinks.... Edited March 21 by Joe Ferguson forever
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21 Posted March 21 50 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: 52 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Just to check, are you now claiming that you worked at the Pentagon? Just the way it is written it is unclear. No. Nor do I pretend to know how the top of the military functions. But common sense demands that there be some basic plan for defending against or attacking or adversaries. The article mentions 20-30 slides which presumably would be dumbed down so that even trump could understand
Homelander Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 Note: The acting president lacks the necessary security clearance and Senate confirmation required for the sharing of such data. 2 1
Doc Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Homelander said: Note: The acting president lacks the necessary security clearance and Senate confirmation required for the sharing of such data. Then I guess it was never a real thing, right? 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 21 Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, Homelander said: Note: The acting president lacks the necessary security clearance and Senate confirmation required for the sharing of such data. “They will be found”. No, not fascist or defensive at all… 1 minute ago, Doc said: Then I guess it was never a real thing, right? Since when does trump follow the law? 1
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