It’s time for a generational talent, blue chipper

[Vickveto]

25 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said:

We need Bruce Smith!!  😉

Seriously, I feel like one more all pro tips the scales  of Power. 

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

They won’t be moving down to 30…if at all …

 

Last year a number of people here wanted to move into the Top 10 to take Rome Odunze…. Aren’t you glad that didn’t happen?

I said the best Wr Db Dt or De. He never was considered to be the best as far as my memories concerned.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Vickveto said:

 

I said the best Wr Db Dt or De. He never was considered to be the best as far as my memories concerned.

I never said you did say it…just comparing that idea to yours ….i can’t see it happening though like that move …

 

 

[Vickveto]

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

I never said you did say it…just comparing that idea to yours ….i can’t see it happening though like that move …

 

 

It needs to happen because we don’t have much cap Space. Prime year all pro free agents aren’t really looking at Buffalo because of New York’s taxes and weather. We are one piece away go all out and get it. I don’t want to waste a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks career playing on conservative.

[chongli]

Ok, you have me convinced! I am IN!

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Vickveto said:

It needs to happen because we don’t have much cap Space. Prime year all pro free agents aren’t really looking at Buffalo because of New York’s taxes and weather. We are one piece away go all out and get it. I don’t want to waste a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterbacks career playing on conservative.

They had their chance to get a guy via trade like Metcalf ( or someone else) and didn’t do it ….Cap hit this year would have been around $7m … if they didn’t make that move ..can’t see them making this one ..even if they could find a willing partner which is equally unlikely in my mind ..

 

Edited March 20 by Aussie Joe

[JohnNord]

1 hour ago, Vickveto said:

We are in Josh Allen prime years we already proved we can win with this core team, let’s go get a needle mover. Let’s go get the best WR CB DT or DE in the draft. I think there are plenty of teams that would seriously listen to each trade backs because of rebuilding or cap situation I.e (Saints, browns)  

 

LOL to be fair, you have to be pretty lucky to get a blue chipper when your drafting at the bottom or each round.  
 

Your overall point is correct though - the Bills need more difference makers on the roster than just Josh.  This has been apparent in each of the playoffs losses, and unless someone steps up big time, I’m not they were able to those players this offseason

[Draconator]

This is why I drink

[Billzgobowlin]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

So you want say a Travis Hunter, a generational CB/WR, projected to go first overall? Do you think we have anywhere near what that would take to move up?

Sorry but Hunter is good at two positions but not generational at one. 

[nedboy7]

Things im sick of reading on TBD…

 

1. we’re wasting Josh’s prime years. 

the end…. 

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Vickveto said:

We are in Josh Allen prime years we already proved we can win with this core team, let’s go get a needle mover. Let’s go get the best WR CB DT or DE in the draft. I think there are plenty of teams that would seriously listen to each trade backs because of rebuilding or cap situation I.e (Saints, browns)  

 

Two massive problems with this:

 

1.) Teams in the Top 10 (where that talent is) almost always don't want to drop from the top of the Draft all the way to the bottom. 

 

2.) Even if there were a team that wanted to do that, we can't afford to give up the picks it would take to make that happen - we have far too many needs to give up the picks to do it this season. Especially after the suspensions to Hoecht and Ogunjobi.

 

We can maneuver around the board to grab guys we like. But Top 10? Not gonna happen. 

[ROCBillsBeliever]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I see him being a victim of lack of maturity, overhyped expectations, and not handling any set back well. Listening to him he feels he already made it. Which financially with his NIL money he has. I think he's the type to care more about Travis Hunter the brand than the team he plays for. I also think he's going to press to play on offense and defense and cause issues.

 

Sooo, by his profile, you're telling me he will somehow wind up on the Chiefs?

 

/s (but only slightly)

[Doc Brown]

We already blew it by not trading for Metcalf.  Let me know if there's a WR who's a 6'4" physical freak that runs a 4.33 40 time in this draft.

[julian]

1 hour ago, Sojourner said:

You think Hunter doesn’t have sustained success? Interesting. Not denying it but am curious as to why? He’s a kid and has plenty of room to mature. He reminds me of Patrick Surtain if I’m honest. 

I just watched Mack Hollins step over Surtain’s corpse in a playoff game, so I guess I’ll pass on Hunter

[Vickveto]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Two massive problems with this:

 

1.) Teams in the Top 10 (where that talent is) almost always don't want to drop from the top of the Draft all the way to the bottom. 

 

2.) Even if there were a team that wanted to do that, we can't afford to give up the picks it would take to make that happen - we have far too many needs to give up the picks to do it this season. Especially after the suspensions to Hoecht and Ogunjobi.

 

We can maneuver around the board to grab guys we like. But Top 10? Not gonna happen. 

What needs? The whole team came back basically. Dt and cb? Okay go get the best one if he is a blue chipper. We have always been able to find good players for cheapor late in the draft under Beane we need an anther all pro to get over the top imo. 

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

We already blew it by not trading for Metcalf.  Let me know if there's a WR who's a 6'4" physical freak that runs a 4.33 40 time in this draft.

Golden will be the next AB without the mental issues in my personal opinion.

[Dr. Who]

7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

We already blew it by not trading for Metcalf.  Let me know if there's a WR who's a 6'4" physical freak that runs a 4.33 40 time in this draft.

I agree, but there is that one fella. Some say his limited production is a product of the Volunteer offense. I don't know, but I hope Beane manages to grab Dont'e Thornton. He's got the traits.

[Buffalo Ballin]

1 hour ago, Blainorama5 said:

We need Bruce Smith!!  😉

We need 2 on each side of our defensive line.

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Billl said:

If you had the #1 overall pick but couldn’t trade it, who would you take?

Without a doubt you take Abdul Carter.

[SoonerBillsFan]

I always go back to what Bill Polian said about building Franchises. There are 3 key positions you must have studs, All pros whatever at. QB (check), LT (Check) DE... we don't have one. Groot is good, but not All Pro, etc good, and that has been a missing piece.  Now, since Bill said this, I would add CB to the list, and we don't have that even with Benford.  But if we can't get a Stud, on the DL, nothing changes.

 

Personally, having watched the NFL the last few years, we need a BIG stud at DT. Pressure against the BEST QBs needs to come up the middle.  Can we swap All pro-DE for DT... Maybe. And NO, Oliver, isn't it. Oliver is good, not great.

 

Now, some fans are going to say x amount of other teams don't have that, and it's hard, etc. I don't give a damn about other teams. I need the BILLS to hit on a DL stud, and they have spent tons of Ammo in the form of FAs and draft picks and still can't seem to figure this out.  Well, if we want to get over the hump and win a Super Bowl, we need to get it figured out before Father Time continues his undefeated streak on Josh Allen.

[L Ron Burgundy]

Nah, what we need is a jag, hear me out...

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Vickveto said:

We are in Josh Allen prime years we already proved we can win with this core team, let’s go get a needle mover. Let’s go get the best WR CB DT or DE in the draft. I think there are plenty of teams that would seriously listen to each trade backs because of rebuilding or cap situation I.e (Saints, browns)  

 

I'm glad you posted this because until you brought it up, no one thought of doing this. Not other NFL GMs, no one. We should absolutely get another teams high pick (because why would a team say no) and only get a game changing player. (Be sure to check the label.)

Edited March 20 by PromoTheRobot