3rdand12 Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM 4 minutes ago, VW82 said: I suspect this will be the last year for Taron as well given the potential out next year. Looking at the End of an era. NOO ! My two favorite players on Defense !! I cant take the strain emotionally.🥴 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted Tuesday at 10:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:18 PM 6m in recovered cap space is like throwing a deck chair off the titanic. He should have been released and Bills should be moving forward with Dorian Williams 1 1 1 2 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted Tuesday at 10:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:18 PM Haven't seen anything posted lately prior to the Milano pay cut, any idea how much the bills are currently under the cap by? Quote
Captain_Quint Posted Tuesday at 10:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:25 PM 14 minutes ago, VW82 said: I suspect this will be the last year for Taron as well given the potential out next year. Looking at the End of an era. If they think that Taron's level of play is going to look like last year, they should draft a nickle cb this year. He took a large, noticeable step back this year. He and Milano in their prime were all pros in this defense, for sure. 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Tuesday at 10:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:25 PM 2 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: 6m in recovered cap space is like throwing a deck chair off the titanic. He should have been released and Bills should be moving forward with Dorian Williams You might suggest that Williams is the better player ? Or that Milano has availability issues ? Or just the money aspect. I think this was the right deal at the right time. For both Team and Matt. But I have a spot in my heart for Milano as a Buffalo Bill . Much like Taron Johnson. Glad Beane treated this honorably to be honest and He might have one heck of a season for Us 👍 Just now, Captain_Quint said: If they think that Taron's level of play is going to look like last year, they should draft a nickle cb this year. He took a large, noticeable step back this year. He and Milano in their prime were all pros in this defense, for sure. Its about Time to look into that position , agreed Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM 35 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: 6m in recovered cap space is like throwing a deck chair off the titanic. He should have been released and Bills should be moving forward with Dorian Williams Spotrac has updated the contract, so I don't know what his Dead Cap hit would have been before it was changed. Right now on the restructured deal, it's at about 23m. I suspect outright cutting him wouldn't have saved us what we saved in the pay cut/restructure. Or else, they might have just done it. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Tuesday at 11:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:00 PM 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Milano was 5th round pick I believe, could you get a comp pick for someone drafted that low? It's not about where they were drafted it's the size of the contract they sign with a new team. 1 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:18 PM I had forgot all about Milano 🤣🤣 1 Quote
Lafromboise Posted Tuesday at 11:19 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:19 PM Crazy it's already been 8 years. The guy literally does NOT care about the money. Didn't he sign 10 mill a year during his all pro season? Says a lot. 2 Quote
Bills Fan in MD Posted Tuesday at 11:21 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:21 PM 1 hour ago, VW82 said: I suspect this will be the last year for Taron as well given the potential out next year. Looking at the End of an era. That's probably right. If the Bills do decide to cut ties I'm assuming that he'll want to keep playing, but part of me hopes that he'll consider hanging it up given the number of concussions he's sustained. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 11:27 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:27 PM 3 hours ago, MarkyMannn said: Spotrac could use a glossary section. Maybe it's there, I've missed it I tried searching and got nothing. 29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Spotrac has updated the contract, so I don't know what his Dead Cap hit would have been before it was changed. Right now on the restructured deal, it's at about 23m. I suspect outright cutting him wouldn't have saved us what we saved in the pay cut/restructure. Or else, they might have just done it. They gave Milano little more guaranteed cash. They are not cutting him so his dead cap for 2025 is meaningless. Bills saved $3M on his contract. It's $11M dead next year just like it would of been if the Bills cut him next spring. Note: Not $6M in cap savings this year like some tweet said. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: They are not cutting him so his dead cap for 2025 is meaningless. Obviously, but I was replying to someone who was complaining about a meager cap savings and argued they should have just outright cut him and moved on with Williams. And I don't think it would have helped the cap any more to cut him. I'd assume it would have been more detrimental to do so than what we ended up doing. But it's hard to tell without looking at what the contract was before the move, that Spotrac has already updated to reflect. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Tuesday at 11:46 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:46 PM 10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Obviously, but I was replying to someone who was complaining about a meager cap savings and argued they should have just outright cut him and moved on with Williams. And I don't think it would have helped the cap any more to cut him. I'd assume it would have been more detrimental to do so than what we ended up doing. But it's hard to tell without looking at what the contract was before the move, that Spotrac has already updated to reflect. Oh, I see your point. I looked at the contract before the new one came online but can't remember what the original cap hit was if cut today. I'm thinking it would have been a few million less than it is now, but I'm not certain. 1 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: NOO ! My two favorite players on Defense !! I cant take the strain emotionally.🥴 I love too but he gets hurt in literally every game. He usually comes back but it’s crazy. Edited Tuesday at 11:54 PM by YoloinOhio 1 Quote
27yankees Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM Posted yesterday at 12:23 AM Danny Stutsman Oklahoma Rd 4 pick 1 Quote
TwoFlocksofFury Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM Posted yesterday at 01:26 AM 3 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: 6m in recovered cap space is like throwing a deck chair off the titanic. He should have been released and Bills should be moving forward with Dorian Williams Proud poppa. Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I wonder how asking your own guy to take a pay cut while dishing out $$$ to 2 players out for 1/3 of the season goes over amongst the team I think mature players who have been around the block understand this. CJ Gardner-Johnson said as much when he got traded. I don’t have the exact quote but it essentially alluded to “I’ve been around, there are some young guys who have stepped up and now need to be paid. It’s part of the life cycle and the business of the game. I had my moment and now it’s someone else’s” 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted yesterday at 03:31 AM Posted yesterday at 03:31 AM 17 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I think mature players who have been around the block understand this. CJ Gardner-Johnson said as much when he got traded. I don’t have the exact quote but it essentially alluded to “I’ve been around, there are some young guys who have stepped up and now need to be paid. It’s part of the life cycle and the business of the game. I had my moment and now it’s someone else’s” Some sure seem to get it. And others are more likely to reject that kind of critical awareness / capitulation. So many variables we're not privy to in most cases. Quote
davefan66 Posted yesterday at 07:45 AM Posted yesterday at 07:45 AM Love Matt, but he’s been off the field quite a bit recently. If he plays lights out, the Bills could reverse field and sign him after next season. If, they got their out. Unless he plays absolute lights out and doesn’t have a single injury, this is his last season. Don’t see the team rolling the dice on him regardless how well he plays. 1 Quote
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