Interesting Eric Moulds stat

[Charles Romes]

9995 career yards. Still irritates me buddy didn’t let him catch a 5 yard pass week 17 one of those years. 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

IDK why I never knew this or heard it brought up before on this forum, but Eric Moulds has the all-time receiving yard record in the playoffs. He put up 240 yards during 98 wildcard against the Dolphins. Absolutely insane. I knew Moulds was very very good during his heyday, but I have done a deep dive into his career (I tend to spend the offseasons watching old Bills games and also specific Buffalo legends) and I didn’t realize the sheer dominance he had when given decent QB play.
 

By no means was he a slouch, he’s 5 yards short of a 10k career, but this guy really could’ve been up there with Reed/ Largent/ Reggie Wayne/ Holt. Those guys all had HOF passers. Are there any other examples of players like Moulds who had atrocious QBs and never achieved their full potential? Or players with crappy supporting casts in general that were much better than fans give them credit for ? 
 

Then on the other end we have Gabe Davis with the most receiving Touchdowns in a playoff game (who can forget that?) Too bad he couldn’t stop dropping the ball. Gabe Davis could’ve been a Wayne Chrebet/Ed McCaffrey type legend in Western NY. Not insane stats, but some legendary plays and a long-tenured career & go-to target for Josh Allen. His toe-tap catches in a VERY close game against the Phillip Rivers-led Colts were instrumental in the Bills first playoff win in 25 years. A very important player that helped spark the Bills as a major force in the NFL. 

 

 

 

It's good that you are learning your Bills history but given that the average age of the members on this board is probably close to 60........I think most of us remember that game.   Unfortunately he also fumbled after one of the longer grabs.  Carelessness with the football(especially Flutie) cost the Bills a game they should have won with ease.

 

1998 Moulds was the best WR the Bills have ever had and it's not close.   He was unreal.  20.4 yards per catch is insane with that volume.  Nothing Andre Reed or Diggs did was as amazing as watching Moulds that year.   He had been seen as the slow guy in the first round class of 1996.

 

The future looked brilliant.

 

Unfortunately he went overboard on the weight training, got heavy-legged and wasn't nearly the same player after that season.    By 2000 he was rarely open.

 

Fortunately for him he had a succession of physically talented passers who couldn't see the field to save their lives so they just chucked it to him 10 times per game from 2000-2004(his prime).  

 

The idea that he was hindered statistically by the Bills QB play is comical.  If he played with a QB who could see the field and find the open man he would have seen a lot less action.   There is no way a Josh Allen is just throwing jump balls to him all day like the field-blind Bledsoe.

 

[Allen2Moulds]

The thing I remember most, is that Miami at the time had a pro bowl CB tandem. I believe it was Surtain Sr. And Madison. They absolutely hated Moulds. He took turns touching those guys. Not only was he big, strong and explosive, but he also played with a mean streak.

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

Gives me hope for guys like Coleman. It's rare someone gets drafted and just puts up crazy numbers. I know it happens, but not common 

That’s reason for hope with Coleman.  On the other hand, Coleman performed at a Gabe Davis rookie season level too.  Hopefully Coleman follows more of the Moulds career trajectory rather than Gabe.

[Maine-iac]

1 hour ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

In a related note, Moulds also holds the all-time record for number of annual Father's Day cards received from children whose mothers were strippers.

 

#keepyourdaughtersoffofthepole 

Thought Travis Henry had that record.

[hondo in seattle]

3 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

IDK why I never knew this or heard it brought up before on this forum, but Eric Moulds has the all-time receiving yard record in the playoffs. He put up 240 yards during 98 wildcard against the Dolphins. Absolutely insane. I knew Moulds was very very good during his heyday, but I have done a deep dive into his career (I tend to spend the offseasons watching old Bills games and also specific Buffalo legends) and I didn’t realize the sheer dominance he had when given decent QB play.
 

By no means was he a slouch, he’s 5 yards short of a 10k career, but this guy really could’ve been up there with Reed/ Largent/ Reggie Wayne/ Holt. Those guys all had HOF passers. Are there any other examples of players like Moulds who had atrocious QBs and never achieved their full potential? Or players with crappy supporting casts in general that were much better than fans give them credit for ? 
 

Then on the other end we have Gabe Davis with the most receiving Touchdowns in a playoff game (who can forget that?) Too bad he couldn’t stop dropping the ball. Gabe Davis could’ve been a Wayne Chrebet/Ed McCaffrey type legend in Western NY. Not insane stats, but some legendary plays and a long-tenured career & go-to target for Josh Allen. His toe-tap catches in a VERY close game against the Phillip Rivers-led Colts were instrumental in the Bills first playoff win in 25 years. A very important player that helped spark the Bills as a major force in the NFL. 

 

 

I loved Moulds.  I always thought he was a HOF talent stuck on an offense that wasn't going to win anyone a trip to Canton. 

 

If I had a time machine, I'd go back to the year 2000, kidnap Moulds, bring him back to the present day, and introduce him to Josh Allen.  He'd be a force with the current Bills.   

[Let's Go Buffalo]

Eric Moulds was a beast! He was one of those players that you could count on for making a contested catch time and time again. He'd definitely be up there on my Mount Rushmore of Buffalo Bills wide receivers. 

[ChevyVanMiller]

1 hour ago, Maine-iac said:

Thought Travis Henry had that record.

Not by strippers, but he probably has him beat in total number of illegitimate children.

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, nosejob said:

Didn't he train with Moulds? Thought i heard that.

No, Khalil did.

[JJGauna]

We could definitely use an Eric Moulds on this team, top 5 favorite Bills WR easy.

[Original Byrd Man]

If Eric Moulds had a good QB for most of his career not only would he be on the wall of fame he would be in the HOF!  Amazingly athletic with great hands.  RAC also amazing!

[TheBrownBear]

5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Sort of funny, but there was a time when the knock on Moulds was that he only played great in even-numbered years.  His best years were 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2004. 😀

I might be misremembering it, but I think he dealt with a bunch of nagging soft tissue (hamstring) injuries in those odd years.  That also capped his overall career statistical output a bit.

[Buffalo716]

8 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

IDK why I never knew this or heard it brought up before on this forum, but Eric Moulds has the all-time receiving yard record in the playoffs. He put up 240 yards during 98 wildcard against the Dolphins. Absolutely insane. I knew Moulds was very very good during his heyday, but I have done a deep dive into his career (I tend to spend the offseasons watching old Bills games and also specific Buffalo legends) and I didn’t realize the sheer dominance he had when given decent QB play.
 

By no means was he a slouch, he’s 5 yards short of a 10k career, but this guy really could’ve been up there with Reed/ Largent/ Reggie Wayne/ Holt. Those guys all had HOF passers. Are there any other examples of players like Moulds who had atrocious QBs and never achieved their full potential? Or players with crappy supporting casts in general that were much better than fans give them credit for ? 
 

Then on the other end we have Gabe Davis with the most receiving Touchdowns in a playoff game (who can forget that?) Too bad he couldn’t stop dropping the ball. Gabe Davis could’ve been a Wayne Chrebet/Ed McCaffrey type legend in Western NY. Not insane stats, but some legendary plays and a long-tenured career & go-to target for Josh Allen. His toe-tap catches in a VERY close game against the Phillip Rivers-led Colts were instrumental in the Bills first playoff win in 25 years. A very important player that helped spark the Bills as a major force in the NFL. 

 

@BADOLBILZ will be here to tell you that not much would change with better quarterbacks 

 

He was force fed football's his whole career by NFL quarterbacks.. and even below average NFL quarterbacks can force feed in NFL superstar to crazy stats.. Josh Gordon had 1700 yards with ghosts throwing him the football 

 

An old Jim Kelly got Andre Reed thousand yards.. Quinn early like 800... Eric moulds had like 275 

 

He took a little bit to blossom, could physically dominate, but also had streaks where he was not consistent and he never became a top route runner 

 

That's why Jim Kelly didn't throw him the ball cuz he wasn't where he was supposed to be.. he's one of the most physically gifted wrs but he also had inconsistency issues 

 

Andre Johnson went for 14,000 yards with nothing special at quarterback.. that's the difference between the Hall of famer and the close guy 

 

Andre Johnson's consistency with mediocre teams

 

 

 

 

[Comebackkid]

6 hours ago, Allen2Moulds said:

The thing I remember most, is that Miami at the time had a pro bowl CB tandem. I believe it was Surtain Sr. And Madison. They absolutely hated Moulds. He took turns touching those guys. Not only was he big, strong and explosive, but he also played with a mean streak.

Well...he probably shouldnt have been touching them...atleast not if it was any where innapropriate 🤷‍♂️😁

[BADOLBILZ]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

@BADOLBILZ will be here to tell you that not much would change with better quarterbacks 

 

He was force fed football's his whole career by NFL quarterbacks.. and even below average NFL quarterbacks can force feed in NFL superstar to crazy stats.. Josh Gordon had 1700 yards with ghosts throwing him the football 

 

An old Jim Kelly got Andre Reed thousand yards.. Quinn early like 800... Eric moulds had like 275 

 

He took a little bit to blossom, could physically dominate, but also had streaks where he was not consistent and he never became a top route runner 

 

That's why Jim Kelly didn't throw him the ball cuz he wasn't where he was supposed to be.. he's one of the most physically gifted wrs but he also had inconsistency issues 

 

Andre Johnson went for 14,000 yards with nothing special at quarterback.. that's the difference between the Hall of famer and the close guy 

 

Andre Johnson's consistency with mediocre teams

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I mean Moulds averaged 150 targets per year from 2000-2004.   Some people act like he was just running free and they weren't throwing him the ball.  He wasn't a guy who excelled at getting open.   The routes he got open the most on were comebacks where he could push off at the top of the route.   And like you said,  he was inconsistent so sometimes he'd have planted a CB on a push off and would drop a 7 yard pass that hit him in the hands chest high with nobody within 10 feet of him.   This is not a guy that the good west coast offense's of the day or Mike Martz were going to appreciate.  He was NOT open, reliable and efficient.  He was perfectly matched with Bledsoe in particular.   Two guys that looked way better on the hoof than they actually played and could put up big numbers on bad teams.

[mjt328]

Definitely up there with Andre Reed and Stefon Diggs as the best Bills WR of all-time.

 

The other two guys were blessed with Hall of Fame passers.  He had Doug Flutie, Rob Johnson and Drew Bledsoe (among others).

He was also somewhat late to develop (broke out at age 25), and then faded in his very early 30s.

 

[Coach Tuesday]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

I guess it is time to block you. No big loss since you are usually one of the worst posters here. But feel honored, because you are one of only two I have blocked.

[NORWOODS FOOT]

I remember that draft well. I badly wanted Marvin Harrison and hoped like hell he would fall, but he went half a dozen or so picks ahead of us. We took Moulds and I wasn’t very familiar with him.

 

In a preseason game he caught an over the shoulder pass and smashed through two defenders and I was pumped. But then he was quiet for a few years. 
 

I was hoping he’d turn into a Sterling Sharpe type but that never really happened. Instead he was very good with some occasional games where he dominated. I remember that Miami game. He was on fire.

 

I still wish we would have got Harrison, but with no QB it wouldn’t have mattered much! 

[Orlando Buffalo]

9 hours ago, Sweats said:

I remember when the fans were all saying he was a bust, but when he finally "broke out", wow he hit the ground running.

 

He was beautiful to watch........kind of reminded me of a cross between a Drew Pearson and a Lynn Swann somewhat.

Moulds was hot garbage for two years and then, as you say, he broke out. I remember the Jags game where the Jags were 5-0 and Moulds made several plays including one of about 50 yds to set up a Flute bootleg to win it. As for the player comparison I think a slightly less athletic Randy Moss and I mean slightly. 

[st pete gogolak]

That was an insane WR draft the year Moulds came out.  Probably the best of all time - Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Marvin Harrison, Moulds, Owens.  I'm sure I'm missing a couple.  Talent wise, I think Moulds was as good as any of them.  He would be a perfect fit for the 2025 Bills.