2025 Buffalo Passing Game

[Buffalo4Life01]

This is a really simple topic and something I just wanted to throw out there to see how everyone is feeling regarding the current crop of weapons Allen has to distribute the ball to this season.  How are we feeling with Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, and Curtis Samuel as Allen's wide receivers heading into the season?  Feesl a tad underwhelming to me even if we also factor in Kincaid and Knox.  Does anyone think Buffalo is planning on drafting a wr early or trading for one or is this group most likely what we have to work with this season?  

[Gregg]

They will probably draft a WR, but I don't think it will be in the early rounds. Defense needs a lot of help. I expect Beane will use the early rounds for defensive help.

[JerseyBills]

I'm still puzzled about Samuel,  he was a very good playmaker in Wash. Loved the signing.  

Alot depends on Colemans progress, he showed flashes just lacked consistency.  

Shakir is elite imo

Palmer has the ability to be a stud

With all the picks they have , I wouldn't be surprised with 2 day 3 WRs , and 1 shakes out

Edited 4 hours ago by JerseyBills

[Dillenger4]

They need to draft at least one.

[Warriorspikes51]

13 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

They need to draft at least one.

needs to be a speed vertical threat IMO

I'd draft the Tennessee WR Dont'e Thornton 

Edited 4 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[LEBills]

The receiver room as it stands is underwhelming. We should draft 2 WRs and keep 6 on the roster. We are tied into Coleman, Palmer, Shakir and Samuel this year. 
 

Beane has started to prioritize weapons for Josh since we got blown out by the Bengals in 2022…and it is helping! But as much as I like Shakir, it’s him as a slot WR and then a bunch of role players. Keep drafting (and signing) playmakers for Josh until one emerges next to Shakir as a bona fide WR1. Having a second WR that teams actually have to worry about is how you take the passing game to the next level. 

[nosejob]

16 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

They need to draft at least one.

If it was just Thornton later, I'm fine with that.

 

BTW, I think Shavers is gonna get his, sooner or later.

Edited 4 hours ago by nosejob

[Dillenger4]

Just now, nosejob said:

If it was just Thornton later, I'm fine with that.

Yes. That would be good. And let's not forget a Coleman rebound and improvement. I can smell it...

[The Jokeman]

37 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

I'm still puzzled about Samuel,  he was a very good playmaker in Wash. Loved the signing.  

Alot depends on Colemans progress, he showed flashes just lacked consistency.  

Shakir is elite imo

Palmer has the ability to be a stud

With all the picks they have , I wouldn't be surprised with 2 day 3 WRs , and 1 shakes out

Samuel had issues with turf toe in the early part of the season, it was easy to see based on lack of production yet once he got healthy again he showed could make a play or two. I can still see his catch and run to score against KC. If he's healthy the full season and Coleman improves think our offense as scary if not scarier than last season as Palmer gives us another true outside WR threat. In terms of the draft, I can see drafting a guy in Rounds 4-6. Dont'e Thornton Jr would be a nice guy to target as has size and some serious wheels and a guy that can develop the next two-three seasons. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

This is a really simple topic and something I just wanted to throw out there to see how everyone is feeling regarding the current crop of weapons Allen has to distribute the ball to this season.  How are we feeling with Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, and Curtis Samuel as Allen's wide receivers heading into the season?  Feesl a tad underwhelming to me even if we also factor in Kincaid and Knox.  Does anyone think Buffalo is planning on drafting a wr early or trading for one or is this group most likely what we have to work with this season?  

One person being constantly overlooked here is Shavers. I am very interested to see if he takes some steps forward. I think he could turn into a decent role player and that fits right into what this offense does. 

 

My guess is we draft a WR late day 2/early day 3 and he and Shavers will battle Shenault for a final roster spot 

[gjv]

There is a rumor going around that Stephan Diggs is headed back to Buffalo. Apparently he has uploaded all his old Bills photos on his social media.

[SoonerBillsFan]

I predict our offense will still be in the top 3 in scoring. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

44 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

One person being constantly overlooked here is Shavers. I am very interested to see if he takes some steps forward. I think he could turn into a decent role player and that fits right into what this offense does. 

 

My guess is we draft a WR late day 2/early day 3 and he and Shavers will battle Shenault for a final roster spot 

 

If the #5 plays on special teams.. shavers should have a chance for that gameday activation spot imo.  

[Einstein's Dog]

I've been disappointed with the moves at FA this off-season.  I was thinking/hoping the FO was going to improve the WR room this offseason.  Last year it declined but had the Diggs problem.   I was disappointed in the decision not to take DK for what he went for.

 

IMO the WR situation right now, is not as good as the end of last season.  But if they can get A Cooper back it will be better than last year (Cooper > Palmer, but Palmer > Hollins).  A rookie does not do it - I wouldn't expect much more than Coleman/Kincaid production out of a rookie.

 

I suppose doing an in-season trade is a possibility again, but I was hoping that was a one time move due to extenuating Diggs circumstances.  For 2025 the Bills have a great shot at the #1 seed and I would prefer they get a decent WR1 before the season.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

37 minutes ago, gjv said:

There is a rumor going around that Stephan Diggs is headed back to Buffalo. Apparently he has uploaded all his old Bills photos on his social media.

sounds like his agent is calling around and finding no takers.

 

[NewEra]

Hopefully we can add a developmental burner on day 3.

 

I think Shakir, Keon, Palmer and Samuel are all viable playmakers if used correctly

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I've been disappointed with the moves at FA this off-season.  I was thinking/hoping the FO was going to improve the WR room this offseason.  Last year it declined but had the Diggs problem.   I was disappointed in the decision not to take DK for what he went for.

 

IMO the WR situation right now, is not as good as the end of last season.  But if they can get A Cooper back it will be better than last year (Cooper > Palmer, but Palmer > Hollins).  A rookie does not do it - I wouldn't expect much more than Coleman/Kincaid production out of a rookie.

 

I suppose doing an in-season trade is a possibility again, but I was hoping that was a one time move due to extenuating Diggs circumstances.  For 2025 the Bills have a great shot at the #1 seed and I would prefer they get a decent WR1 before the season.

Yeah I kind of agree with regard to the WR corps.

I sort of hoped that the "everybody eats" mediocre WR group was more out of necessity than preference. That the Diggs situation caught them off guard and they did the best they could (albeit without double dipping at WR in a historically deep WR draft).

I hoped/assumed they'd put some serious effort in to acquiring a WR1 type this offseason. Instead, they seem to be saying "hey, the no-name WR/everybody eats thing worked last year, let's run it back!". I don't love it.

To go back-to-back offseasons in Josh Allen's prime without seriously addressing the position (last year, as mentioned, in the historically deep WR draft, and then this year by only signing Josh Palmer) feels like roster malpractice. The Bills are going about their business as if WR isn't an important, premium position in the year 2025.

They seem to be banking on hope yet again this year. Hope that Keon Coleman will progress, hope that Joshua Palmer will be better than he has been throughout his career, hope that Curtis Samuel is better than last year, hope that Khalil Shakir stays healthy (because the WR corps is scary bad looking without him). The only problem is...."hope" is not a strategy.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

I think end of the day - they are in fine shape.  I think a few things need to happen this season:

 

More targets to shakir (100 up to closer to 130 - best hands and best wiggle to turn short plays into longer ones), and more targets to kincaid.  Maybe tack an additional 50 onto that pair.  

Last year the group of players Coleman, Hollins, Samuel, and Cooper had 218 targets.  Coleman, Palmer, Samuel somewhere in the 175 range total would be ideal.  

RB rotation is fine - all can catch and ty johnson plays more 3rd downs.  We tend to not use them for check downs and short stuff as that tends to go to kincaid and shakir.  

 

[Buffalo4Life01]

If we go into the season with only our current crop of wr's we are absolutely banking on HUGE progress being made by Coleman and Kincaid.  Also, availability all season long.  Imagine if Shakir misses extended time?  I just can't fathom Buffalo not pulling off a trade or drafting a wr 2nd or 3rd round that they believe can come in and contribute immediately.  

[KingBoots8]

3 hours ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

This is a really simple topic and something I just wanted to throw out there to see how everyone is feeling regarding the current crop of weapons Allen has to distribute the ball to this season.  How are we feeling with Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, and Curtis Samuel as Allen's wide receivers heading into the season?  Feesl a tad underwhelming to me even if we also factor in Kincaid and Knox.  Does anyone think Buffalo is planning on drafting a wr early or trading for one or is this group most likely what we have to work with this season?  

It depends how the draft falls, but I think we go DI/DE first pick, then round 2 is where we take a gander at who is left. Jayden Higgins strikes me as a potential target that range - he has the measurables and plays an X-receiver role. He’s a touch slower than I’d like (4.47 40 yard time) but he’s 6’4” and I just have a gut feeling about him. I am positive Golden is gone before we draft round 1, and can see quite a few more taken in the middle of round 2.