wppete Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 18 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Holy smokes youre right. Crazy. I didnt realize Hendrickson is 30 and been around that long. That changes things a little for me... Id still be ok with him at that age. Its a trade and a one contract, 4 years max. Hes an incredible player. 2 Quote
finn Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 11 hours ago, Rigotz said: 40/yr for Chase 29/yr for Higgins 50/yr for Burrow A master class in paying WR instead of your premiere trench players. Ya love to see it. Any award or praise of Burrow's play has to carry an asterisk. He's playing with not one but two elite receivers, much like Mahomes did all those years. Quote
TBBills Fan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: this team building got them to a SB couple years ago. Not really, both were on rookie deals and burrow wasn't paid yet. 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, finn said: Any award or praise of Burrow's play has to carry an asterisk. He's playing with not one but two elite receivers, much like Mahomes did all those years. Or unfortunately we may have to ding Beane a little. I'm a little jealous of what Burrow has compared to Josh at WR. But Beane had a chance/choice with the DK Metcalf sweepstakes and did not pony up (yes, I'm still a little bummed about that). Quote
Process Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: this team building got them to a SB couple years ago. Lol the team that went to the Superbowl was the exact opposite of the current team. QB and WRs on rookie deals and a very good defense. 1 Quote
MJS Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago The Bengals weren't even a playoff team last year, and they still have the run it back at all cost mentality. Interesting. Quote
FireChans Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Shaw66 said: This is the exact opposite of what Beane and McDermott. The Bengals have put all their eggs in one basket - the explosive passing offense basket. They are forcing themselves to be one dimensional, or to try to be balanced without the personnel to have an effective running game. There's a reason teams in the NFL don't have two #1 receivers. Bengals didn't get the memo. Have you heard about Super Bowl Champions AJ Brown and Devonta Smith? 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: That isn't what Barkley was paid this year when they won the SB. The Eagles are losing pieces this year as part of signing Barkley...and will Barkley hold up again is always a question given he has struggled with that in the past. And this list is NOT why they won the SB...they won the SB because they had the #1 defense and arguably the best OL in football. And that has more to do with them drafting well then "paying" offensive skill players. The offense didn't even have to do a lot, and Barkley did nothing in the Super Bowl. Dominating the trenches is what won them the SB and its not really debatable. Maybe they will trade us Devonta and AJ Brown for a 7th, they sound unimportant to the Eagles 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Have you heard about Super Bowl Champions AJ Brown and Devonta Smith? I believe this has already been addressed. The Bengals have nothing close to the Eagles OL and DL of 2024. I think the point is the Eagles can pay those guys when they draft well in the trenches first. The Bengals have not done that more important part. They are far closer to the Dolphins with Hill and Waddle and unable to do anything because their OL and DL suck. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 hours ago, Low Positive said: I Hate the Bengals!!!! Can you build an OL and a secondary in a single draft? Will they have to and I would be more worried about the next couple years vs just next year. It doesn't take that creative of an imagination to see this Bengals team and all it's dumb decisions, leap frogging us. As they did a few years ago. We have had major issues defending Burrow, I would say even more so than Mahomes. If they can get a pulse in the areas they have been struggling in that's all it will take. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Have you heard about Super Bowl Champions AJ Brown and Devonta Smith? Maybe they will trade us Devonta and AJ Brown for a 7th, they sound unimportant to the Eagles If you think that AJ Brown and Smith were “the reasons” the Eagles won the SB then I question your knowledge of football and how to analyze a football game. 1 1 Quote
Saint Doug Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago We can hate on the Bengals all we want, but the Bills haven’t beat them in over 5 years. Quote
Gregg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If you think that AJ Brown and Smith were “the reasons” the Eagles won the SB then I question your knowledge of football and how to analyze a football game. They played a part in it, but Barkley and their defense were "the reasons" they won. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I believe this has already been addressed. The Bengals have nothing close to the Eagles OL and DL of 2024. I think the point is the Eagles can pay those guys when they draft well in the trenches first. The Bengals have not done that more important part. They are far closer to the Dolphins with Hill and Waddle and unable to do anything because their OL and DL suck. How are the Bengals prohibited from “drafting well in the trenches” because of these contracts? 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: If you think that AJ Brown and Smith were “the reasons” the Eagles won the SB then I question your knowledge of football and how to analyze a football game. They had a long season to get to the SB. Is this how you analyze football? Only what happened in the last game matters or is important? Maybe Howie will trade us AJ for a 7th. 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: They played a part in it, but Barkley and their defense were "the reasons" they won. Saquon had 25 carries for 57 yards in the Super Bowl. Edited 8 hours ago by FireChans 2 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gregg said: They played a part in it, but Barkley and their defense were "the reasons" they won. Barkley did nothing in the SB. They won because they dominated the trenches Edited 8 hours ago by Alphadawg7 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: The Eagles 32/yr for AJ Brown 25/yr for Smith 51/yr for Hurts 20.6/yr for Barkley Keeping the weapons for your QB isn't a dumb move imo as long as you draft properly. I'm not sure if you're following what's happening to the Eagles this offseason, but they're losing the majority of their good trench players because of the contracts you mentioned to skill position players. 2025 will be the season we find out how those contracts work for them. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: They had a long season to get to the SB. Is this how you analyze football? Only what happened in the last game matters or is important? You mean the season where the Eagles had the best defense, top OL, and one of the greatest RB seasons of all time? The regular season where AJ Brown and Smith has their worst seasons as Eagles and only combined for just 1900 yards despite their massive contracts? That regular season? Edited 8 hours ago by Alphadawg7 Quote
Gregg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: How are the Bengals prohibited from “drafting well in the trenches” because of these contracts? They had a long season to get to the SB. Is this how you analyze football? Only what happened in the last game matters or is important? Maybe Howie will trade us AJ for a 7th. Saquon had 25 carries for 57 yards in the Super Bowl. I meant the entire season to get them there. The Super Bowl itself was the Eagles defense leading the way. But the year Barkley had was one of the biggest factors in getting them there. 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: this team building got them to a SB couple years ago. A couple years ago they didn't have to pay those players... what?? Also, where did it get them last year? Quote
Billl Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago These are easily affordable contracts, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they sign Hendrickson as well. I’ve said this repeatedly, but paying big contracts to superstars isn’t how you get into salary cap trouble. You get into trouble by overpaying JAGs. The Bengals have decided to pay their stars and try to fill in the gaps with draft picks and veteran minimum level fill-ins. That means they can’t afford the Josh Palmer and Michael Hoecht type of deals. It may or may not work, but it’s not a terrible strategy. 1 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I'm not sure if you're following what's happening to the Eagles this offseason, but they're losing the majority of their good trench players because of the contracts you mentioned to skill position players. 2025 will be the season we find out how those contracts work for them. I’ve seen many posters on here calling Beane a wizard for re-signing our own. This is no different and the players the Bengals re-signed are all difference makers, I don’t think it will hinder them as long as they draft well which is not ideal for us if they do. Yes I’ve seen the Eagles losses but I have no doubt in my mind Howie Roseman will fill the losses appropriately as he’s done since they won a SB with Nick Foles. Edited 8 hours ago by BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Quote
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