Scouting the DTs in the 2025 Draft

[Logic]

Now THIS is a good thread.

It's really THE thread this offseason.

One can easily make the argument that in terms of our current depth chart and the importance of a good 1T to the success of this defense, this is the pre-eminent issue of importance before we kick off the 2025 season.

I'm just starting to learn about all of these guys in depth. Like everyone else, I want Kenneth Grant. I would tend to think he won't fall to us, and I'm somewhat doubtful that Beane will be willing to give up significant draft capital to move up far enough to take him.

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, Logic said:

Now THIS is a good thread.

It's really THE thread this offseason.

One can easily make the argument that in terms of our current depth chart and the importance of a good 1T to the success of this defense, this is the pre-eminent issue of importance before we kick off the 2025 season.

I'm just starting to learn about all of these guys in depth. Like everyone else, I want Kenneth Grant. I would tend to think he won't fall to us, and I'm somewhat doubtful that Beane will be willing to give up significant draft capital to move up far enough to take him.

 

Alfred Collins seems to be a close 2nd as far as 1T goes.  

 

The Eagles have Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Both Massive. 

 

I'm sure it's not happening.....but the Bills getting Grant and Collins would transform our defense.  

 

Or, get one of them and a TJ Sanders/Joshua Farmer/CJ West  and we should see an immediate difference 

Edited March 17 by Warriorspikes51

[Warriorspikes51]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

All depends on how the early part of the draft falls of course. But I'd say anywhere from 15-20 sounds right for him come draft day. 

 

I'd be willing to trade a 2026 2nd + 5th to move up for him.  Is that enough to get us there? 

[HOUSE]

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Not a. Whaley fan but he really did draft BPA. Beane has never done so. He takes his biggest need every year. 

DK Metcalf was the BPA but we end up with Cody Ford??

[The Jokeman]

5 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

One early and one later for me.

 

Early: 1-2

Grant (obviously)

Williams 

 

Later: 4-7

Jamaree Caldwell 

Cam Jackson

The more I read on this kid (Caldwell) the more I like him as a true NT that we've lacked for the longest time. Yet Williams to me can also 1 tech it and a far better prospect that welcome at pick #30. 

[TBBills Fan]

I don't follow college really, so my post is not based on anything other than my heart 

 

There's a guy in the draft named Jordan Phillips and he is a DT. Just feels like a fit

[OldTimer1960]

30 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I'd be willing to trade a 2026 2nd + 5th to move up for him.  Is that enough to get us there? 

A 2026 2nd and 5th would only move you from pick 30 to about pick 23 (where GB is).  2026 picks are generally discounted by a round as the team receiving the pick has to wait a year to exercise it.  Further, teams will assume that the Bills are going to be picking late.

26 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The more I read on this kid (Caldwell) the more I like him as a true NT that we've lacked for the longest time. Yet Williams to me can also 1 tech it and a far better prospect that welcome at pick #30. 

Caldwell is pretty quick for his size.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

The more I read on this kid (Caldwell) the more I like him as a true NT that we've lacked for the longest time. Yet Williams to me can also 1 tech it and a far better prospect that welcome at pick #30. 

I'd be good with Grant and Williams being our 1st 2 picks. 😉😇😁

 

But, realistically, I don't think it'll happen. 

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

DK Metcalf was the BPA but we end up with Cody Ford??

Hindsight you can’t even say he was BPA. Cody Ford was considered a late first early 2nd round pick. Even if you want to go the hindsight route AJ Brown has been better than Metcalf. 
 

The only way you can remotely say DK was BPA was throughly media hype and he still gets hyped up by some that think he’s megatron but really he’s a good but not elite WR

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

DK Metcalf was the BPA but we end up with Cody Ford??

 

Yep. Beane needed a RT. 

 

Really good thread...if someone wants to make one for cornerback that would be cool, since right now that is going to be our first round pick. 

Edited March 17 by MrEpsYtown

[Bills aPHILLYate]

19 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Grant & Collins

 

End this nonsense of our IDL being undersized 

 

We walk away with both of them and I think it transforms the defense immediately. 

 

That would be a pretty damn good starting point for a top tier defensive line for years.

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

I'd be willing to trade a 2026 2nd + 5th to move up for him.  Is that enough to get us there? 

That's where I'm at too. Don't know if it'll be enough. If he makes it to 20 I think you gotta start wheelin n dealin.

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Alfred Collins seems to be a close 2nd as far as 1T goes.  

 

The Eagles have Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Both Massive. 

 

I'm sure it's not happening.....but the Bills getting Grant and Collins would transform our defense.  

 

Or, get one of them and a TJ Sanders/Joshua Farmer/CJ West  and we should see an immediate difference 

Collins can plug the hole or get after the passer which is what we need. If we stay at 30,and he is still there, I grab him.  

[Warriorspikes51]

13 minutes ago, Bills aPHILLYate said:

 

We walk away with both of them and I think it transforms the defense immediately. 

 

That would be a pretty damn good starting point for a top tier defensive line for years.

Absolutely. I'm hoping that, or something similar happens.

 

[NewEra]

Grant >>> Harmon > Collins are the guys that I’d be very excited about at 30.  Prefer to trade back and get a 3rd if we were fixated on DT @30.  
 

I expect there to be some CB’s, Edge’s (or golden or burden) rated higher than the other DTs that fit what we need.   I think we can grab a solid DT in rd 2 or later.

 

Nolan is the outlier.  He’s not the perfect fit due to his size, but he and ed side by side on passing downs with Bosa and Rousseau could be formidable.  I wouldn’t be angry, as he could be bpa.  

[Warriorspikes51]

11 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Grant >>> Harmon > Collins are the guys that I’d be very excited about at 30.  Prefer to trade back and get a 3rd if we were fixated on DT @30.  
 

I expect there to be some CB’s, Edge’s (or golden or burden) rated higher than the other DTs that fit what we need.   I think we can grab a solid DT in rd 2 or later.

 

Nolan is the outlier.  He’s not the perfect fit due to his size, but he and ed side by side on passing downs with Bosa and Rousseau could be formidable.  I wouldn’t be angry, as he could be bpa.  

We need a legit monster 1T more than any position on this roster 

[nosejob]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Alfred Collins seems to be a close 2nd as far as 1T goes.  

 

The Eagles have Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Both Massive. 

 

I'm sure it's not happening.....but the Bills getting Grant and Collins would transform our defense.  

 

Or, get one of them and a TJ Sanders/Joshua Farmer/CJ West  and we should see an immediate difference 

And hopefully the staff is trending toward building a young core and creating an identity. One that instills fear....or at least repect....no fear

 

If Grant and Harmon are gone maybe we can get a 3rd from Philly and go....Collins, Princely, Porter, Walker and Ivey. Yes I think Walker can be great.

Just needs coaching.

Edited March 17 by nosejob

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, nosejob said:

And hopefully the staff is trending toward building a young core and creating an identity. One that instills fear....or at least repect....no fear

 

Yes I like that idea

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

We need a legit monster 1T more than any position on this roster 

Monster 1Ts are not McDs thing.  I wish he was more open to it, I think we need a monster (in ability and size) 1T.  Maybe watching Philly will make him reconsider.  
 

those are the 3 monsters I see as worthy of 30.  Are there any other DTs you’d like at 30?
 

 

[DJB]

22 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

We need a legit monster 1T more than any position on this roster 

While I’m in love with the idea of an adding a monster 1T and for years have asked us to draft one , to me corner is our bigger need atm unfortunately. 
 

For the record I still want to go 1T at 30 . 
 

We better not pass up on Grant like we did last year on Sweat last year . (Although I wanted Ladd round 1 and a trade up for Sweat in round 2)

Edited March 17 by DJB