Scouting the DTs in the 2025 Draft

[3rdand12]

23 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I feel the same way about Harmon…I would be fine using one of our 2nd rounders to trade up and get him…Something just screams “game wrecker” every time I was his tape…

I like those.

Last year we traded down didnt we.

Lets be a bit more aggressive to get the starter replacing D Jones and let him teach and spell (lol) our new favorite D lineman.

 Glad you Guys have a few top notch prospects for the Bills to focus on and share with Us ,

[3rdand12]

8 hours ago, Logic said:

Now THIS is a good thread.

It's really THE thread this offseason.

One can easily make the argument that in terms of our current depth chart and the importance of a good 1T to the success of this defense, this is the pre-eminent issue of importance before we kick off the 2025 season.

I'm just starting to learn about all of these guys in depth. Like everyone else, I want Kenneth Grant. I would tend to think he won't fall to us, and I'm somewhat doubtful that Beane will be willing to give up significant draft capital to move up far enough to take him.

Yea Buddy This is THE thread for me. Love watching the clips and all the input from folks who " things " lol

Educated I daresay , opinions I respect from you all !

and I am hellbent on Beane's team solving the middle of the defense. Day One

But hell I wanted two receivers last year and how'd that work out for me ?

Thanks to y'all 😇

6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Yep. Beane needed a RT. 

 

Really good thread...if someone wants to make one for cornerback that would be cool, since right now that is going to be our first round pick. 

It's gotta be in the conversation for who is Bills 1st or second 😋 pick

[3rdand12]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

Monster 1Ts are not McDs thing.  I wish he was more open to it, I think we need a monster (in ability and size) 1T.  Maybe watching Philly will make him reconsider.  
 

those are the 3 monsters I see as worthy of 30.  Are there any other DTs you’d like at 30?
 

 

Yes we noticed McD failings too lol and why I think we all , you included want to see some sincere tweaks to what and how Bills line up the front seven.

They have lighter faster LBs

 Bernard will play best when clean. Dorian too.

  

4 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Not sure if Grant will make it to 30 and most of what I have seen is Williams has been 2nd rnd. Will Beane pull the trigger at 30 for Williams? With our D-line rotation is DT even a rnd 1 option for Beane?🤔

 

Thing is, I have a feeling we go CB or Edge if D is our 1st pick. 🤷‍♂️

BPA huh  😂

[Augie]

3 hours ago, DJB said:

Im one of the few that wouldn’t be super mad if we went RB in round 1 . Obviously not my preference but I have suggested it. 
 

Deep RB class with top end talent galore, would allow us a cost controlled RB for upwards of 7 years and we won’t have to drastically overpay an average RB in Cook. 
 

I wouldn’t hate it . 
 

But it better be Hampton or Henderson we take lol

 

Umm, yes, you are one of the very few I suspect. 

 

But I am here to be entertained!  Bring it on! 😂 

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

You didn't like the fact that Buffalo passed on a Porsche and drove off in a Ford?

It was no GT40 , our Ford. 

[Big Blitz]

57 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

sees the play for sure on most clips

Where do you want to pick him ?

 

He might be gone at 30 - I think he’s my favorite realistic pick here.  
 

I think Grant will be gone.  

[3rdand12]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

He might be gone at 30 - I think he’s my favorite realistic pick here.  
 

I think Grant will be gone.  

Yep from what i read Beane might need to work the phones. Probably can't wait for a Grant

 Thanks B B

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

They could but why risk it? I'm tired of continually missing out on 1 tech/NT  defenders as the good ones are so hard to find and Williams got some seriously speed to go with it. 

There are 4-5 1 Techs in this draft that can make an impact. We better cut the BS and get one of them.

[Dr. Who]

22 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

There are 4-5 1 Techs in this draft that can make an impact. We better cut the BS and get one of them.

Inexcusable not to, really.

[billsfan89]

I feel like the Bills will have plenty of good options to get a big run stuffing DT with pass rushing upside. The Bills will have at least 2-3 options that fit the description so to speak. 

 

1. Kenneth Grant- Might shoot up boards but there's an outside chance he could be there at or around pick 30. 
2. Tyleik Williams- Big run stuffer with pass rush upside, like should be there at or around pick 30. 
3. Alfred Collins- Another big run stuffer with some pass rush upside, seems like he should also be there at pick 30 could even be had in the early 2nd round. 
4. Derrick Harmon- Not a massive run stuffer but a big guy more pass rush upside than a dominant run stuffer but still a plus run defender. 

Other later round options will also bet there like Jordan Phillips and Deone Walker. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

37 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I feel like the Bills will have plenty of good options to get a big run stuffing DT with pass rushing upside. The Bills will have at least 2-3 options that fit the description so to speak. 

 

1. Kenneth Grant- Might shoot up boards but there's an outside chance he could be there at or around pick 30. 
2. Tyleik Williams- Big run stuffer with pass rush upside, like should be there at or around pick 30. 
3. Alfred Collins- Another big run stuffer with some pass rush upside, seems like he should also be there at pick 30 could even be had in the early 2nd round. 
4. Derrick Harmon- Not a massive run stuffer but a big guy more pass rush upside than a dominant run stuffer but still a plus run defender. 

Other later round options will also bet there like Jordan Phillips and Deone Walker. 

#3 is my guy.

[billsfan89]

12 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

#3 is my guy.

 

I like Collins and Williams at or around pick 30. Get me a big run stuff with some pass rush upside and then get an edge and WR in round 2.

[Turbo44]

6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

I like Collins and Williams at or around pick 30. Get me a big run stuff with some pass rush upside and then get an edge and WR in round 2.

How about CB? Feel CB has to be one of our top 3 picks. At this point we may have the weakest secondary in the league. Our top player had 2 bad concussions in 7 days and Dane Jackson is currently or #2 cb

 

i go:

1. Maxwell or other cb that drops to 30

2. De/dt

2. de/dt

4. Wr

 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

As much as I love the trenches and want to see them go big early and often, I am wondering if the value is too good in RD2 to take a DT at 30. What is the drop off from 30 to 56? 
 

If they do go RD1 DT at 30, Harmon and Grant are the two I really like. I think Collins can play, but I’m a little worried about his height/size and ability to play with a low pad level vs some of stalwart guards of the league. 
 

At the end of the day, I am sure everyone has their favorites. I just hope they walk away with 2DTs and 1 DE early in the draft. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

19 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

As much as I love the trenches and want to see them go big early and often, I am wondering if the value is too good in RD2 to take a DT at 30. What is the drop off from 30 to 56? 
 

If they do go RD1 DT at 30, Harmon and Grant are the two I really like. I think Collins can play, but I’m a little worried about his height/size and ability to play with a low pad level vs some of stalwart guards of the league. 
 

At the end of the day, I am sure everyone has their favorites. I just hope they walk away with 2DTs and 1 DE early in the draft. 

We need to push the pocket up the middle. That is how you Beat great QB's esp. Mahomes.

 

I really want a big 1 tech that can help plug against the run, but also really push that pocket. 

 

I really hope they pull the trigger at 30.

[BobbyC81]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

I feel like the Bills will have plenty of good options to get a big run stuffing DT with pass rushing upside. The Bills will have at least 2-3 options that fit the description so to speak. 

 

1. Kenneth Grant- Might shoot up boards but there's an outside chance he could be there at or around pick 30. 
2. Tyleik Williams- Big run stuffer with pass rush upside, like should be there at or around pick 30. 
3. Alfred Collins- Another big run stuffer with some pass rush upside, seems like he should also be there at pick 30 could even be had in the early 2nd round. 
4. Derrick Harmon- Not a massive run stuffer but a big guy more pass rush upside than a dominant run stuffer but still a plus run defender. 

Other later round options will also bet there like Jordan Phillips and Deone Walker. 

If they drafted Jordan Phillips, would they also consider re-signing Jordan Phillips?

[TheBeaneBandit]

7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We need to push the pocket up the middle. That is how you Beat great QB's esp. Mahomes.

 

I really want a big 1 tech that can help plug against the run, but also really push that pocket. 

 

I really hope they pull the trigger at 30.

Agreed. Sign Gilmore as a 1 year stop gap and wait til one of the 2nds to grab his understudy. Get the guy who can blow s**t up with the first pick.

[Turbo44]

9 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We need to push the pocket up the middle. That is how you Beat great QB's esp. Mahomes.

 

I really want a big 1 tech that can help plug against the run, but also really push that pocket. 

 

I really hope they pull the trigger at 30.

If you could find another mid/late round CB like #47 then you can absolutely target DL at 30. But typically the drop off from rd 1 to 2 is steeper at cb than DL. Certainly this year where DL is especially strong. I would love to see Beane sign a Douglass type and Calais type so we get take BPA at 30 (like golden (wr). Not sure he had the cap space to do that but could certainly open up some more cap space. Sign Douglass, Campbell and Diggs for a combined 15m (pretty sure that’s about what it would take) then draft best players 

[SoonerBillsFan]

11 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Agreed. Sign Gilmore as a 1 year stop gap and wait til one of the 2nds to grab his understudy. Get the guy who can blow s**t up with the first pick.

That would be a hell of a plan.

13 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

If you could find another mid/late round CB like #47 then you can absolutely target DL at 30. But typically the drop off from rd 1 to 2 is steeper at cb than DL. Certainly this year where DL is especially strong. I would love to see Beane sign a Douglass type and Calais type so we get take BPA at 30 (like golden (wr). Not sure he had the cap space to do that but could certainly open up some more cap space. Sign Douglass, Campbell and Diggs for a combined 15m (pretty sure that’s about what it would take) then draft best players 

I get what you are saying. But... we have ignored the 1 Tech for too long.  Also Philly showed the way,pressure up the middle and Mahomes, Burrow etal. tosses up bad balls.  

[Kelly to Allen]

Peebles is going to be a steal. David Walker too although he's more outside but can play 3 tech