Is McD compensating for Beane Part #2?

[PrimeTime101]

On 3/15/2025 at 6:55 PM, DJB said:

Tyler Huntley was a Pro Bowler.

 

Let’s not get worked up over this. 

Tyrod Taylor was a Pro Bowler...

[GunnerBill]

7 hours ago, White Linen said:

 

You do you, and deny things you say. 

 

"So I do, and long have, fallen more on the side of we lack elite difference makers rather than "our coaches are the problem." Ultimately players are more important than coaches, always have been, always will be."

 

You didn't come close to saying, it's more than just as simple as blaming the GM.  

 

I totally disagree with your belief, that it's more on the GM and lack of players than McD.  

 

Yea if you selectively quote me out of context, sure. 

 

The secknd para of my post starts with this line:

 

"However, it is fair to say that there are always two parts to pro bowl, all pro, top 100 type recognition and that is usage as well as talent."

 

I am not and have never denied that I think it is more lack of elite talent than coaching. The whole point of the post here, however, was that AP, PB and  T100 recognition are not, in themselves complete proof of that in the way the OP was trying to argue because there is an element of usage that goes into players getting that recognition.

 

So yes, I did say it is not as simple as just blame the GM for the relative lack of AP, PB, T100.

 

[White Linen]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea if you selectively quote me out of context, sure. 

 

The secknd para of my post starts with this line:

 

"However, it is fair to say that there are always two parts to pro bowl, all pro, top 100 type recognition and that is usage as well as talent."

 

I am not and have never denied that I think it is more lack of elite talent than coaching. The whole point of the post here, however, was that AP, PB and  T100 recognition are not, in themselves complete proof of that in the way the OP was trying to argue because there is an element of usage that goes into players getting that recognition.

 

So yes, I did say it is not as simple as just blame the GM for the relative lack of AP, PB, T100.

 

 

Yet you took it as an opportunity to agree that you think it's Beane and not McD stopping the Superbowl.  What's wrong with you?  Own it.  

 

I know you said that, that's why I said you did.

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

Yet you took it as an opportunity to agree that you think it's Beane and not McD stopping the Superbowl.  What's wrong with you?  Own it.  

 

I know you said that, that's why I said you did.

 

I think it is more down to talent than coaching, yes. The opinion is very clear and very owned. To say I think it is entirely one or the other is a major over simplification of my position. 

[mjt328]

In my opinion, Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott play into each other's strengths, and amplify each other's weaknesses.

 

Through his coaching career, McDermott has proven to be excellent at developing and getting the most out of his secondary and linebackers.  He and Beane are 100% on the same page with those positions, constantly turning late-round picks and mid-level free agents into solid (or even better) starters.  Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Matt Milano and Tre White turned into All-Pros.  Christian Benford and Terrell Bernard are the latest stand-out starters.  Levi Wallace, Dane Jackson, Damar Hamlin, Taylor Rapp were turned into solid contributors.  Beane knows exactly what kind of talent our coaching staff needs, and can find it literally anywhere.

 

McDermott has been MUCH less effective with getting the most out of the D-Line.  Every year we seem to invest big resources into the pass rush (Von Miller, AJ Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Boogie Basham, Star Lotulelei, Ed Oliver, Daquon Jones, etc.)  But we struggle to get to the QB when it counts, especially in the playoffs.  Our run defense goes through very rough patches every single season.  Most people believe the D-Line is the piece consistently holding us back from taking the next step.  And despite all the draft picks and free agents we have rolled through the halls, nothing seems to work.

 

When you see a talent like Poona Ford sit the bench here, and be very effective everywhere else... 

When you see Epenesa get drafted and then require an entire physical makeover to get on the field...

When you see young talent develop slowly (or not at all), and then become incredibly inconsistent...

You just wonder if Beane/McDermott are on the same page with this part of the team.

 

Maybe what our defense really needs is an Aaron Kromer for the D-Line.

Our O-Line was in a similar position early in the Beane/McDermott era, always underachieving.  Wasted picks like Cody Ford.  A revolving door at Right Tackle.  Now suddenly everybody we bring into the building seems to be developing great, playing strong on the field, and fitting perfectly into the system.  Our running game has taken off, and Josh Allen hardly ever gets sacked.  

 

[Rigotz]

22 hours ago, Einstein said:

Not to mention, that bust QB was pretty good before he tore his ACL twice. He was literally an MVP finalist in 2017.

Anyone arguing against Howie Roseman isn't even worth debating. I'm not sure why I even responded.

Guy is an all-time GM.

 

For a guy named "Einstein" you sure miss the point a lot!

 

Nobody is saying he's not a good GM. I specifically said he's a good GM multiple times.

 

The problem is using him as an example of an infallible GM who doesn't miss. That's not true. Also, yes, he's probably the best GM and he isn't that far off from Brandon Beane. That's the point.