Is McD compensating for Beane Part #2?

[Mikie2times]

22 minutes ago, folz said:

 

That's why wins, playoffs, point differentials, offensive and defensive rankings, etc. matter more to me when evaluating a coach or GM than any outside talent-evaluation or number of pro-bowlers on the team or whatever. And we have been at the top of the league in all of those categories for more than 5 years now, despite no Super Bowl appearance (but damn, we've been close). 

 

How much influence is Allen having on those rankings vs in the individual talent of the rest of the team? This is what I wrote upstream.

 

This concept with Josh impacting reality extends into nearly every element of this team. How often does Allen bail in the pocket after 2 seconds or less? All but securing our OL won't take a sack. How guarded does the defense need to be defending Allen, opening up our traditional run game? How often do we jump on teams in the first few minutes rendering them one dimensional on offense?  Josh REALLY makes it difficult to view what is real and what isn't. Who is good and who isn't.

 

 

24 minutes ago, folz said:

And the same goes for Beane/GMs overall. You can't look at Beane in a vacuum, you have to compare him to the job that other GMs have done/are doing. It's easy just to point out his misses or mistakes and to knock him for it, but really, you have to look at his overall batting average vs. other GMs. And take into account that we are always drafting late in the draft. A while back, I compared the first three rounds of the only three teams to make the playoffs in each of the last 5 years (BUF, KC, Tampa---in regards to drafting players when drafting late in the rounds) to see how Beane matched up in regards to the other GMs who were generally drafting in the same range as Brandon. Apples to Apples. Philly is actually a very poor comparison to use, especially when it come to drafting impact players, because in the last 5 years, the Bills' highest draft pick was #23 (with only 3 first-round selections total), while Philly has had 5 picks better than #23 in that span (6 first-round picks total), with two picks in the top 10 and another at 13. I bet if Beane had 3 more first round picks over the last 5 years (all three in the top 13), the Bills would have 1-3 more impact players on their squad currently. Not to mention, over the last 6-7 years it has been far easier to make a SB from the NFC than it has been from the AFC due to much tougher competition/better teams in the AFC. Anyhow, here is the comparison from the old thread:

 

Buffalo (2021-2024 drafts, rounds 1-3)

12 picks overall (3 firsts, 5 seconds, and 4 thirds). Average draft pick: 59

Players: Greg Rousseau, Boogie Basham, Spencer Brown, Kaiir Elam, James Cook, Terrell Bernard, Dalton Kincaid, O'Cyrus Torrence, Dorian Williams, Keon Coleman, Cole Bishop, DeWayne Carter.

Summary: 6-7 starters, 3-4 backups, 2 Busts

 

Tampa (2021-2024 drafts, rounds 1-3)

13 picks overall (3 firsts, 5 seconds, and 5 thirds). Average draft pick: 60

Players: Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, Kyle Trask, Robert Hainsey, Logan Hall, Luke Goedeke, Rachaad White, Calijah Kasey, Cody Mauch, YaYa Diaby, Graham Barton, Chris Braswell, Tykee Smith, Jalen McMillan

Summary: 7-8 starters, 4-5 backups, 1 Bust (at this point)

 

Kansas City (2021-2024 drafts, rounds 1-3)

11 picks overall (4 firsts, 6 seconds, and 1 third). Average draft pick: 51

Players: Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, Trent McDuffie, George Karlaftis, Skyy Moore, Bryan Cook, Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Rashee Rice, Wanya Morris, Xavier Worthy, Kingsley Suamataia

Summary: 7 starters, 3 backups, 1 Bust

 

I think Beane has drafted fairly well, especially for B level talent and not completely missing. I take into account that we draft late. Where I think Beane has really failed is in his FA additions / missing in key areas / and position fit. We have barely been able to land B talent in Free Agency since Hyde and Poyer, which is likely by design, but for me becomes an issue when we aren't getting that "A" level in the draft.

 

The DT position has been neglected, specifically the 1 tech role (and still is).  WR position has been neglected and assembled in such a bizarre way. Oversized wideouts, missing the outside wideout completely, lack of use. TE has been assembled in odd fashion. As we dump a big contract into Knox and go with Kinkaid shortly after. Really the entire defense, starting with the DL has underdeveloped given the resources invested. The hits were more prevalent in the past, but the last two years we have done so little in the draft or Free Agency to better this team.  

 

[HardyBoy]

5 hours ago, FireChans said:

Covid only happened in Orchard Park?

 

 

How many other teams were in an opening super bowl window that had just paid their qb and were maneuvering to plan for an ongoing transition of the roster to keep that window while keeping it open over the next three years while staying super bowl contenders?

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/latest-on-bills-salary-cap-issues

 

Also, Star opted out of the 2020 season and that caused his contract to stay frozen for the year and I'm guessing he was planning on cutting Star after either the 2020 or 2021 season, and that totally screwed that (if he was cut after 2021, which is possible, there would have been a much bigger dead cap hit). Also, I know he extended or restructured Star somewhat confusingly, just can't remember if that was right before or right after covid, but obviously whatever plan he had with that contract totally got screwed by covid.

 

Beane has talked extensively about how the cap dropping in 2021 significantly impacted them specifically because of where they were in the team building window. It caused them to have to restructure contracts on players they would have likely cut or worked out lower contracts with had they not had to push the cap hit out into future years.

 

Following the 2021 season and 13 seconds, you would expect Beane to have been super aggressive in getting top players...the drop in the cap started a sequence of events and contract decisions that were forced as a result of the cap drop and derailed a whole bunch of stuff...Beane has talked about it (maybe not in those specifics, but he did), I'm not making it up.

[SoTier]

19 hours ago, Einstein said:

Question for all: If Howie Roseman was our GM, would McDermott have a Super Bowl by now?

My answer: Absolutely.

How you answer that question may help you realize how much of the blame you put on GM and how much you put on the coach.

 

Then again, Howie Roseman is a savant. He has 2 Super Bowls in the past 5 years with 2 different headaches and 2 different QB's, one of which was a backup.


 

 

Untrue.   The Eagles won the Super Bowl after the 2017 season and after the 2024 season.  That's a seven year span, not five.

 

17 hours ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

The Wacky world of Terry Pegula is responsible for the disconnect between Beane and McDermott. They both answer to Pegula, unlike other organizations where the coach answers to the gm. So Howie Roseman would not have a guaranteed SB here because he couldn’t order McDermott to hire a certain DC or OC the way he did in Philly this past year. I have long believed McDermott has his favorites and often they are less talented athletes: Hamlin, Spector, Klein. He kept James Cook on the bench in year one. Thirteen seconds was his cowardice and poor coaching in the clutch. Could Beane hit on some more draft picks, sure. Too often McDermott has victory within his grasp but it slips out; like a waiter with a large tray filled with entrees and just as he gets to the table he stumbles. All those fillets on the floor and a plate of spaghetti on your grandmothers head.

 

There is no "disconnect" between Beane and McDermott.  They were friends and colleagues in Carolina, and McDermott was key in Beane being hired in 2017.  That cordial relationship continues.    Beane and McDermott collaborate, not compete. 

 

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Howie Roseman won a Super Bowl with that bust QB lol what

 

Ummm ... Nick Foles, the Eagles QB who actually played in the 2018 Super Bowl, was the Eagles' third round pick in 2012.   Wentz had one great season, 2017, and never came close to playing that well again.

 

 

 

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Untrue.   The Eagles won the Super Bowl after the 2017 season and after the 2024 season.  That's a seven year span, not five.

 

 

There is no "disconnect" between Beane and McDermott.  They were friends and colleagues in Carolina, and McDermott was key in Beane being hired in 2017.  That cordial relationship continues.    Beane and McDermott collaborate, not compete. 

 

 

Ummm ... Nick Foles, the Eagles QB who actually played in the 2018 Super Bowl, was the Eagles' third round pick in 2012.   Wentz had one great season, 2017, and never came close to playing that well again.

 

 

 

 

Thank you, for doing what I lack the energy to do.  😊

[Einstein]

23 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Untrue.   The Eagles won the Super Bowl after the 2017 season and after the 2024 season.  That's a seven year span, not five

 

lol. 

 

Only 2 Super Bowls in 7 years instead of 5.

 

 

24 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Ummm ... Nick Foles, the Eagles QB who actually played in the 2018 Super Bowl, 

 

Howie Roseman drafted Foles too.

[folz]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Do we think Philly got extra first round picks by magic or because their GM made some shrewd trades?

 

First off, I'm not saying Roseman isn't doing a great job (their World Champs! Again.) and I'm not saying Brandon is better than him. I mean, we could compare them overall as GMs (taking everything into account) if we had the time, but generally winning SBs will give you the nod/edge regardless. I was just pointing out that it's not a fair comparison when it comes to drafting over the last 5 years specifically (as to how many impact players are on the teams through the draft). To say Roseman has drafted better or more impact players when he has had 3 more first round picks than Brandon and three picks in the top 13, when Brandon hasn't had a pick higher than 23, seems obvious. Swap any other two GMs into those positions and the one in Roseman's position will have "drafted better." 

 

As to the reason for those higher picks (your question), It's a combination of stuff. In 2020 and 2021, the Eagles season records were 4-11-1 and 9-8. So, in the 2021 and 2022 drafts, they picked 10th and 13th overall (sure there was probably some movement to get to those exact spots, but the reason they were up that high was because of the team's records). Conversely, the Bills records in 2020 and 2021 were 13-3 and 11-6, with the Bills picking 30th and 23rd overall. Just those two picks alone could have made a big difference (especially since one of them was Kaiir, imagine if we had a top 10 pick on the team rather than having had Kaiir?). In the 2023 draft, yes, Roseman made a lot of trades (a big one with NO, and then others) to get up to pick 9 to select Jalen Carter. Not too dissimilar to what Beane did to move up to #7 for Josh in 2018. But for Roseman, it wasn't about getting his QB, it was about going all in.

 

So, we could debate the style of GM'ing. Now I'm sure almost every Bills fan will say I'd take a back-to-back 4-win and then a 9-win season (no playoffs) if it means we win a Super Bowl. Yet, during that two year stretch, most Bills fans would be calling for the HC's and GM's heads. They might not last that extra season to win it all. Look at Siriani, he was on the hot seat in Philly despite making two Super Bowls now. It's kind of that old debate of is it worth it to go all in and then suck for a couple of years, and then try it again? Or instead, try to remain one of the best teams each year and get more shots at it. I'm not a fan of the all in (cause if it doesn't work, you have to rebuild), but it has worked for the Rams and the Eagles at least. So, I don't know. And I guess we'll see if Roseman can keep this current Philly team together (at the top) for a while now or not.

 

Look, the run that Roseman has had the last 8 years is amazing. Three SB appearances and 2 SB wins. That run began 8 years into his tenure as a GM. Brandon has been a GM for 7 years thus far. Roseman has also had 5 losing seasons and 6 years of no playoffs in his 15 years. Also, Philly made the playoffs in that span 3 times with 9 wins and twice with 10 wins. Not sure you're making it that way in the AFC.

 

Again, this is in no way to disparage Roseman, he's got two Super Bowls and will probably be in the HOF because of it, just pointing out that a lot more goes into comparing GMs than just how many pro-bowlers are on the team currently. And ultimately, if we have to use the best 2-3 GMs in the league as a comparison to Beane (to try and show he's maybe not at their level), doesn't that kind of mean he must be pretty near the top of GMs too? Otherwise, why wouldn't people point to worse GMs to say, see Brandon isn't even as good as this guy.

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, folz said:

 

Look, the run that Roseman has had the last 8 years is amazing. Three SB appearances and 2 SB wins. That run began 8 years into his tenure as a GM.

 

Roseman didn't have full control until 2015. He became GM in 2010 working essentially as the senior personnel guy to Andy Reid. And then Chip Kelly had personnel control too when he took over. Howie has had control since Chip's firing. He hasn't nailed every decision, but he is the best GM in football by far.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, HardyBoy said:

 

 

How many other teams were in an opening super bowl window that had just paid their qb and were maneuvering to plan for an ongoing transition of the roster to keep that window while keeping it open over the next three years while staying super bowl contenders?

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/latest-on-bills-salary-cap-issues

 

Also, Star opted out of the 2020 season and that caused his contract to stay frozen for the year and I'm guessing he was planning on cutting Star after either the 2020 or 2021 season, and that totally screwed that (if he was cut after 2021, which is possible, there would have been a much bigger dead cap hit). Also, I know he extended or restructured Star somewhat confusingly, just can't remember if that was right before or right after covid, but obviously whatever plan he had with that contract totally got screwed by covid.

 

Beane has talked extensively about how the cap dropping in 2021 significantly impacted them specifically because of where they were in the team building window. It caused them to have to restructure contracts on players they would have likely cut or worked out lower contracts with had they not had to push the cap hit out into future years.

 

Following the 2021 season and 13 seconds, you would expect Beane to have been super aggressive in getting top players...the drop in the cap started a sequence of events and contract decisions that were forced as a result of the cap drop and derailed a whole bunch of stuff...Beane has talked about it (maybe not in those specifics, but he did), I'm not making it up.

I mean KC and SF were both in the Super Bowl the year before and both continued to mange to make multiple conference championships and Super Bowls after. I’m sure Covid affected their team building strategy too.
 

I’m also sure Beane has tried to make excuses. He made a similar hilarious excuse that’s it’s not his fault we aren’t drafting stars in the top 10, except we did draft in the top 10 and he just didn’t draft stars.

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

Ummm ... Nick Foles, the Eagles QB who actually played in the 2018 Super Bowl, was the Eagles' third round pick in 2012.   Wentz had one great season, 2017, and never came close to playing that well again

Wentz was 11-2 as a starter in 2017 and they won the SB after he went down for injury. Anyone saying he wasn’t important for that SB season is just wrong.

 

If Josh went down after week 13 and the Bills won a Super Bowl, you would build Beane a shrine in your closet.

Edited 15 hours ago by FireChans

[Awwufelloff]

13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

First of all, I don't give a rat's anus about hockey. Second, coaching and development matter. But they don't matter more than talent. Talent matters more than anything else. And the Bills at the elite end have lacked it. Especially the past two years when Josh has been the only elite guy on the roster.

If Mcdermott made a few different calls then he did in playoffs we probably have a championship already. Coaching has cost us a few already. I've always said we won't win one with Mcdermott, he folds under pressure. Hope I'm wrong.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

21 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

There are times when I wonder if sometimes there's a bit of a disconnect between Beane and McDermott on players brought in. Or a disconnect between how McDermott views talent compared to others.

 

Take Poona Ford for example. McDermott wouldn't even let him on the field. He was a pretty solid 1T before he got here. And then when he left, he blew up for the Chargers. Just signed a 3 year, 60m deal with the Rams. Yet he couldn't sniff the field for us?

 

We trade for Amari Cooper. And while I think the injured wrist was the biggest issue, he wasn't used NEARLY as much as he should have been. Mike Edwards (again, injury issue early in Training Camp) was brought in as a potential starter. Asked for his release bc he couldn't see the field.

 

There's been other strange instances where McDermott has underutilized players brought in or played less talented guys more than he should have. Ultimately, it's hard to complain with the results the team has had. But his usage of players is at times befuddling and bizarre.

💯 …. The entire Poona/Tim Settle thing really makes me wonder 

[SoTier]

59 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Wentz was 11-2 as a starter in 2017 and they won the SB after he went down for injury. Anyone saying he wasn’t important for that SB season is just wrong.

 

If Josh went down after week 13 and the Bills won a Super Bowl, you would build Beane a shrine in your closet.

 

The Eagles were a team built to win with a QB on a rookie QB.   Nick Foles went 5-1, including three playoff games.  My guess is that the Eagles team carried both QBs more than either QB carried the team.

 

If the Bills win a Super Bowl, whether Allen or somebody else leads them to the win, I will build a shrine to the entire team in my front yard.

[White Linen]

14 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean my one post to that point in this thread was saying it isn't as simple as blame the GM for lack of players getting recognition. But, sure. You do you. 

 

You do you, and deny things you say. 

 

"So I do, and long have, fallen more on the side of we lack elite difference makers rather than "our coaches are the problem." Ultimately players are more important than coaches, always have been, always will be."

 

You didn't come close to saying, it's more than just as simple as blaming the GM.  

 

I totally disagree with your belief, that it's more on the GM and lack of players than McD.  

[folz]

2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

How much influence is Allen having on those rankings vs in the individual talent of the rest of the team? This is what I wrote upstream.

 

This concept with Josh impacting reality extends into nearly every element of this team. How often does Allen bail in the pocket after 2 seconds or less? All but securing our OL won't take a sack. How guarded does the defense need to be defending Allen, opening up our traditional run game? How often do we jump on teams in the first few minutes rendering them one dimensional on offense?  Josh REALLY makes it difficult to view what is real and what isn't. Who is good and who isn't.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, of course Josh influences everything. He makes everyone around him (other players, coaches, FO) better (or at least seem better). No question. But, as you said, how much so is almost unquantifiable. It's why the debate still goes on about whether the Patriots success was more Brady or Belichick, etc.

 

But, as I have also pointed out in other threads before, just having an elite QB (or even a top 10 All-Time QB) does not automatically equate to playoff berths every year, let alone, say, bi-annual Super Bowl appearances or whatever. Just ask Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning. Combined, they played 74 NFL seasons, missing the playoffs in 27 of those years, with 7 Super Bowl appearances, and 4 Super Bowl wins. That means these all-time QBs missed the playoffs for 36% of their careers and did not appear in a Super Bowl for 90.5% of their careers.

 

No matter how good your Quarterback/Coach combo is (and those guys all had excellent coaches), you still need a lot of talent around them to win consistently. Drew Brees and Sean Payton will both be HOFers, yet in 15 seasons together, they missed the playoffs 6 times and only reached the Super Bowl once (and won).

 

As good as Josh is, he is not doing it on his own, as some like to think.

 

 

As to Free Agency...I agree that Brandon has had a lot of misses over the years, guys that barely ended up even seeing the field sometimes. But, again, we'd have to look at all of his hits and misses (and their contracts, playing time, stats, etc.) and then compare that to other GMs to get an idea of how he's doing overall. I actually have no idea where Brandon would rank if looking only at a GM's free agent success right now. But, I do agree that there is still room for improvement in that department, for sure. But again, sometimes you just get unlucky too (Von's injury).

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I mean KC and SF were both in the Super Bowl the year before and both continued to mange to make multiple conference championships and Super Bowls after. I’m sure Covid affected their team building strategy too.
 

I’m also sure Beane has tried to make excuses. He made a similar hilarious excuse that’s it’s not his fault we aren’t drafting stars in the top 10, except we did draft in the top 10 and he just didn’t draft stars.

Wentz was 11-2 as a starter in 2017 and they won the SB after he went down for injury. Anyone saying he wasn’t important for that SB season is just wrong.

 

If Josh went down after week 13 and the Bills won a Super Bowl, you would build Beane a shrine in your closet.

 

Beane has drafted in the top 10 twice. He picked Josh Allen (at 7) and Ed Oliver (at 9). So, a grand-slam homerun and a solid double or triple. Don't think you can knock those picks too harshly as a pair (though we all wish that Ed had maybe one more level to his game). For reference: according to an article I found, the bust rate for 1st round picks 6-10 is about 35%. And the positive 65% doesn't necessarily mean that they are all All-Pro studs, just that they are at least say solid 5-year starters (per the article's standards). Not sure what the division of studs vs. solid players is in that percentage, but Ed is probably at least somewhere in the middle. So, not a bad pick, just not a home run pick. But how many of that percentage are actually home runs (All-Pros/HOFers) even in that range? I'm guessing here, maybe 10%, 20%? It won't be a high number. So, Ed isn't as bad a pick at 9 as some think, just not the jackpot that you hope for.

 

https://theriotreport.com/more-than-50-of-first-round-picks-are-busts-and-other-terrifying-draft-statistics/

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, folz said:

 

Yes, of course Josh influences everything. He makes everyone around him (other players, coaches, FO) better (or at least seem better). No question. But, as you said, how much so is almost unquantifiable. It's why the debate still goes on about whether the Patriots success was more Brady or Belichick, etc.

 

But, as I have also pointed out in other threads before, just having an elite QB (or even a top 10 All-Time QB) does not automatically equate to playoff berths every year, let alone, say, bi-annual Super Bowl appearances or whatever. Just ask Drew Brees, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning. Combined, they played 74 NFL seasons, missing the playoffs in 27 of those years, with 7 Super Bowl appearances, and 4 Super Bowl wins. That means these all-time QBs missed the playoffs for 36% of their careers and did not appear in a Super Bowl for 90.5% of their careers.

 

No matter how good your Quarterback/Coach combo is (and those guys all had excellent coaches), you still need a lot of talent around them to win consistently. Drew Brees and Sean Payton will both be HOFers, yet in 15 seasons together, they missed the playoffs 6 times and only reached the Super Bowl once (and won).

 

As good as Josh is, he is not doing it on his own, as some like to think.

 

 

As to Free Agency...I agree that Brandon has had a lot of misses over the years, guys that barely ended up even seeing the field sometimes. But, again, we'd have to look at all of his hits and misses (and their contracts, playing time, stats, etc.) and then compare that to other GMs to get an idea of how he's doing overall. I actually have no idea where Brandon would rank if looking only at a GM's free agent success right now. But, I do agree that there is still room for improvement in that department, for sure. But again, sometimes you just get unlucky too (Von's injury).

 

 

 

 

Beane has drafted in the top 10 twice. He picked Josh Allen (at 7) and Ed Oliver (at 9). So, a grand-slam homerun and a solid double or triple. Don't think you can knock those picks too harshly as a pair (though we all wish that Ed had maybe one more level to his game). For reference: according to an article I found, the bust rate for 1st round picks 6-10 is about 35%. And the positive 65% doesn't necessarily mean that they are all All-Pro studs, just that they are at least say solid 5-year starters (per the article's standards). Not sure what the division of studs vs. solid players is in that percentage, but Ed is probably at least somewhere in the middle. So, not a bad pick, just not a home run pick. But how many of that percentage are actually home runs (All-Pros/HOFers) even in that range? I'm guessing here, maybe 10%, 20%? It won't be a high number. So, Ed isn't as bad a pick at 9 as some think, just not the jackpot that you hope for.

 

https://theriotreport.com/more-than-50-of-first-round-picks-are-busts-and-other-terrifying-draft-statistics/

Yeah but Beane literally said “we aren’t bad enough to pick a Jamar Chase.”

 

He’s wrong. We were bad enough. He just didn’t pick a superstar. He picked Ed Oliver.

[folz]

3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Yeah but Beane literally said “we aren’t bad enough to pick a Jamar Chase.”

 

He’s wrong. We were bad enough. He just didn’t pick a superstar. He picked Ed Oliver.

 

Fair enough.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, folz said:

 

Fair enough.

As a corollary, when the Bengals were bad, they drafted Burrow, Chase and Higgins. 
 

when the Bills were bad, we drafted Josh, Edmunds, Oliver, Ford.

 

Not that the Bengals are elite drafters, but they did far better maximizing those picks before their run started. 
 

But that’s Beane’s game. He’s got an excuse ready to go.

 

It was COVID’s fault we had limited cap space past 2020, not him overpaying stiffs like Star Loutoto.
 

the Bills win too many games to draft superstars, except that year where we won 6 games, drafted the fifth best DT of the first round in the top ten, and drafted a total bust in the top of the second that he would turn around and trade for a fifth 2 years later.

 

Two years from now he’ll probably say we don’t have cap space because we retained Rousseau and Bernard, but ignore the two JAGs he overpaid for that imo have limited chance of living up to their contracts. 
 

It’s far easier  being a GM when you tear a team down and aren’t paying anybody. You can sign 6 OL FAs and cut/trade whoever underperforms and eat their dead money.

 

It’s harder when the belt tightens. 

[major]

Each time yall say McD I be thinking…

[HappyDays]

My take is that Beane is more responsible for us failing to ever get the #1 seed, and McDermott is more responsible for us failing to go further in the playoffs.

 

On Beane - Every year there are several regular season games where we need just one player to step up and make a game changing play, and it never happens. That falls directly on Beane's inability to add game changing talent, draft and FA included. Those games are why we're perennially the #2 or lower seed.

 

And the whole "we don't draft high enough" argument falls flat when you consider that he's chosen not to add available game changers in recent years. Von Miller was traded to LA and changed their season culminating in a Super Bowl win. Jerry Jeudy was traded to Cleveland and put up a 1,200 yard season with maybe the worst QB situation in the league. Metcalf was just traded. So he has had opportunities and passed them up.

 

On McDermott - Despite the lack of elite talent, the regular season results prove the defensive talent is good enough to perform much much better than it does in the playoffs. Every playoff loss of the last few years we look like a historically bad defense and that just doesn't match up with what we see earlier in the season. Andy Reid very clearly has McDermott's number in January and that's pretty much the nail in the coffin on our Super Bowl chances unless our offense has a no-punt game.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by HappyDays

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

💯 …. The entire Poona/Tim Settle thing really makes me wonder 

I was happy to see Eric Washington leave last year.

[Gunsgoodtime]

Its Basically year 7 of the best qb that anyone could have imagined be drafted and yet 0 Accg wins, not even a sniff at the SB.  Keep on cheering them on its going to be a sad day when Josh is gone and we have absolutely nothing to show for it but still have Beane and McDermott