Hoecht and Ogunjobi 6 game suspension for PEDs

[Logic]

Just now, Victory Formation said:

Don’t lie, this is very embarrassing for Brandon Beane.

It's outright HILARIOUS, is what it is.

Beane also seemed very embarrassed in his press conference. 

But "this is the last straw, let's fire him"? C'mon, man. Ridiculous.

If the Ogunjobi thing hadn't happened. If it was just "hey, we signed a guy for three years but he's gonna start out with a six game suspension", it would be odd, but for the most part, people wouldn't think too much of it. This stuff happens in the NFL. The fact that it then happened with Ogunjobi right afterwords is what makes it a weird and embarrassing situation.

But again...a fireable offense? Preposterous.

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

Certainly some laughable overreactions in this thread.

How was Brandon Beane supposed to know that Larry Ogunjobi -- with a spotless NFL resume and being the Steelers' 2024 Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee -- was going to get a PED suspension BEFORE it happened? I guess you can ding him for still deciding to go ahead with the contract after finding out, but his explanation that the market had become pretty depleted and they decided they'd rather have him for 11 games plus playoffs than start from scratch and sign a lesser talent seems reasonable to me.

Likewise, if you want to ding him for deciding to sign Hoecht to a three-year deal despite knowing about his six game suspension, I can understand that. But the Bills signed him for 51 games worth of contract. With that in mind, missing six games due to suspension doesn't seem disqualifying.

All of this is obviously less than ideal. But the "this is the last straw, fire Brandon Beane" stuff is hilarious to me.

I’m not on the “fire Beane” bandwagon … but it’s an ordinary look happening with 2 guys they just signed IMO… having them both miss the first third of the season is far from ideal …

[YoloinOhio]

You can’t make this ***** up 😭

 

It’s ok they will be fresh and extra motivated for when it matters 

[BillsFanForever19]

2 minutes ago, Logic said:

Certainly some laughable overreactions in this thread.

How was Brandon Beane supposed to know that Larry Ogunjobi -- with a spotless NFL resume and being the Steelers' 2024 Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee -- was going to get a PED suspension BEFORE it happened? I guess you can ding him for still deciding to go ahead with the contract after finding out, but his explanation that the market had become pretty depleted and they decided they'd rather have him for 11 games plus playoffs than start from scratch and sign a lesser talent seems reasonable to me.

Likewise, if you want to ding him for deciding to sign Hoecht to a three-year deal despite knowing about his six game suspension, I can understand that. But the Bills signed him for 51 games worth of contract. With that in mind, missing six games due to suspension doesn't seem disqualifying.

All of this is obviously less than ideal. But the "this is the last straw, fire Brandon Beane" stuff is hilarious to me.

 

This is pretty much where i'm at. It's less than ideal, for sure. But with Hoecht, we still have Groot, Bosa, and Epenesa and it's still possible they Draft a guy in the first couple days. And it's not like he signed him to a 1 year deal. He felt it was worth it and it very well may be.

 

Ogunjobi just sucks. We only signed him to a 1 year deal. But like you said - if he was completely unaware, how's that a Beane mistake? And also like you said, it's not like there's someone better than him out there that they could void the deal and in better shape. It definitely takes DT from a top need in the Draft to probably THE top need.

[FireChans]

Brandon Beane is the MVP lmao

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

This is pretty much where i'm at. It's less than ideal, for sure. But with Hoecht, we still have Groot, Bosa, and Epenesa and it's still possible they Draft a guy in the first couple days. And it's not like he signed him to a 1 year deal. He felt it was worth it and it very well may be.

 

Ogunjobi just sucks. We only signed him to a 1 year deal. But like you said - if he was completely unaware, how's that a Beane mistake? And also like you said, it's not like there's someone better than him out there that they could void the deal and in better shape. It definitely takes DT from a top need in the Draft to probably THE top need.

different type of player and may have no interest in Buffalo….but Calais Campbell

[Logic]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

I’m not on the “fire Beane” bandwagon … but it’s an ordinary look happening with 2 guys they just signed IMO… having them both miss the first third of the season is far from ideal …

I agree that its an odd situation, it's way less than ideal, and it doesn't look great for the Bills or Brandon Beane. It's a bit embarrassing and, as I have said, actually pretty hilariously unbelievable.

But I stand by the statement that this thread is filled with overreactions.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

3 minutes ago, TurfToeJam said:

Sorry haven't had a chance to read through all 8 pages.  But...

Is it possible this has anything to do with the new bills strength and conditioning coach?  Seems like pretty strange coincidence.  Will we ever find out if both guys were caught using the same ped?

 

 

How would this have anything to do with the strength coach on a team they hadn’t even reported to yet? 

[jahnyc]

I was really happy with re-signing our own players before the start of free agency, but free agency for the Bills has been a real downer.  I guess we will never know who we wanted to sign, but, other than Bosa, I am not seeing a lot of help coming from this group.  Palmer did not put up good numbers in his years with the Chargers to warrant the deal that he received, Hoecht will not be available for the first six games of the season, Ogunjobi is not the defensive lineman we need to be the middle anchor of the D-line and also will be suspended for the first six games, Jackson is not an adequate starter or back-up, and we really have not addressed significant needs at CB or safety.

 

I like Beane, but this is a really bad look for the Bills and in particular Beane.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I'm confused though, don't our team dr's test these guys before they officially sign? 

[SirAndrew]

Great, we already excel at signing subpar defensive players, then we find a couple who can’t even play. 

[FireChans]

They are so lucky Josh is such a good guy to take a paycut for this tomfoolery lol

[BuffaloMatt]

This is a real stick in the ass

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Process said:

If they didn't know about Ogunjobi, why wouldn't they just not sign him?

 

I get that they came to an agreement, but this is a pretty valid reason to break it 

 

 

 

He would sign one guy he knew was suspended….but never 2!!

 

that’s genius at work lol

 

these are 2 “process guys”. Trust the process

[Victory Formation]

Just now, Logic said:

It's outright HILARIOUS, is what it is.

Beane also seemed very embarrassed in his press conference. 

But "this is the last straw, let's fire him"? C'mon, man. Ridiculous.

If the Ogunjobi thing hadn't happened. If it was just "hey, we signed a guy for three years but he's gonna start out with a six game suspension", it would be odd, but for the most part, people wouldn't think too much of it. This stuff happens in the NFL. The fact that it then happened with Ogunjobi right afterwords is what makes it a weird and embarrassing situation.

But again...a fireable offense? Preposterous.

Bro, I put more care into my Amazon packages than he does for players that he’s paying tens of millions of dollars for.. He didn’t check this out with the league before he signed these guys? Really?

 

You think that these guys would hire PI’s to comb through these guy’s backgrounds before they pay them this kind of money.. I’m dumbfounded..

 

And I’m not going to go tit for tat with you over Beane’s blunders, but this isn’t the only time he’s royally screwed up.

 

This is so embarrassing for our organization.

[Warriorspikes51]

Disheartening for the organization.

 

I wonder if there will be pressure to make a move that takes this out of people’s minds a bit

Edited 9 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[RiotAct]

WGR is currently discussing…… golf.

[boater]

But six games? I thought this type of conduct got you 4 games.

[GunnerBill]

What in the name of......? 

 

This amateurish. Which for all that I have criticised some of Beane's evaluations and roster building is not a word I have ever associated with him before. This is old Bills behaviour. Not the buttoned up, professional outfit we have been.

 

Really, really disappointing.

[Aussie Joe]

AJE breathing a lot easier now … no chance of him being traded this off-season