Dane Jackson signs with the Bills

[streetkings01]

21 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I'm 100 percent relaxed bud lol.

 

Dane will most likely be in competition for a starting role with a corner they draft in one of their first 3 picks.

 

You're in disagreement with that?

I’m not as down on Dane as you are. He was a serviceable starting corner here and he parlayed it into a nice payday for himself. You act as if his tenure here he was a below average cornerback which he wasn’t! 

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, streetkings01 said:

I’m not as down on Dane as you are. He was a serviceable starting corner here and he parlayed it into a nice payday for himself. You act as if his tenure here he was a below average cornerback which he wasn’t! 

I mean- He basically signed a 1 year 4.1 million dollar deal with Carolina in the prime of his career. That's a very modest contract for a corner , and that's barely even starting corner money.

 

I do think he's a below average corner, and I can almost guarantee the contract he just signed with the Bills will reflect that.

 

If he's the 4th corner, fine. 
 

But if it ends up being him and a rookie competing for the starting job (which I think it will be), then no I'm not thrilled at all with it

[Warriorspikes51]

if he’s above CB4 on the depth chart is an L

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Jeez I knew he's not popular but the response is more dire than I thought. I dont think anyone is mistaking him for a perennial Pro Bowler but if you go around the league a lot of CB2s look like Dane Jackson.

 

Do I suspect that he'll be fighting for playing time? Absolutely. I suspect that Beane is taking a CB in the first half of the draft and I liked what I saw of Ja'Marcus Ingram in limited time last year. But he's enough of a known quantity that Beane doesn't feel pressured thats he NEEDS to get a Week 1 starter and has to repeat the Elam mistake 

[Sharky7337]

Any bill that plays for the Panthers automatic a resign they just can't help themselves

[buffblue]

43 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Jeez I knew he's not popular but the response is more dire than I thought. I dont think anyone is mistaking him for a perennial Pro Bowler but if you go around the league a lot of CB2s look like Dane Jackson.

 

Do I suspect that he'll be fighting for playing time? Absolutely. I suspect that Beane is taking a CB in the first half of the draft and I liked what I saw of Ja'Marcus Ingram in limited time last year. But he's enough of a known quantity that Beane doesn't feel pressured thats he NEEDS to get a Week 1 starter and has to repeat the Elam mistake 

Dane has played solid when called upon. We should and need to do better before the season, but no one should have a problem with this signing

[ColoradoBills]

4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

2 of 3?

 

Benford and Johnson.

6 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

He will use his first pick on the glaring hole on his roster. He has done it every year. He drafts for need.

 

Most GMs do.

[MasterStrategist]

7 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Right now we have one, Benford.  Dan Jackson is nothing about a good depth piece and an occasional injury starter.  Beane must bring in a better player.  If we go into the season with Benford, Ingram, Jackson and a rookie draft pick as our 4 outside CBs, Beane has downgraded the position from last season and that's not a good thing.

What what?! 

 

Do you already know who we draft and the type of rookie season, said player will have?

 

We no longer have Elam or Rasul.

 

Dane replaces Elam, which to me is equal if not better.  

 

Now we have to find our CB2 via the draft, and at least be "an average" starter.  Let's not act like Rasul was playing like his end of 2023 season. Dude lost a step and won't be difficult to replace, unless Beane drafts another Elam.

[GolfandBills]

Yay.  What’s the obsession with running it back with all these mediocre ex Bills

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I'm 100 percent relaxed bud lol.

 

Dane will most likely be in competition for a starting role with a corner they draft in one of their first 3 picks.

 

You're in disagreement with that?

You said Dane would be "inserted into the starting lineup".  Now slightly back pedaling.

 

And I expect you to be in full back pedal mode after the draft.

 

Hence why the other poster told you to relax.

 

Of course Dane is being brought in to compete.  Isn't that what all players do?

 

Difference between that and what the expectation is.  Which the expectation is for Dane to fill the CB3/4 role, which he is more than capable of.

[MrEpsYtown]

19 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Benford and Johnson.

 

Most GMs do.

Yeah I get that. But he’s gonna take a corner. My response was to the idea that he can use any of the first three picks. I’m saying if the roster stays as is, he’s taking a corner and everyone knows it. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yeah I get that. But he’s gonna take a corner. My response was to the idea that he can use any of the first three picks. I’m saying if the roster stays as is, he’s taking a corner and everyone knows it. 

This is my biggest fear. We’ve fallen into this trap three consecutive years in RD1 and it’s always ended up poorly. If the run on corners happens early, I hope Beane is wise enough to not again draft this years version of WR8 off the board at CB or DE

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Jeez I knew he's not popular but the response is more dire than I thought. I dont think anyone is mistaking him for a perennial Pro Bowler but if you go around the league a lot of CB2s look like Dane Jackson.

 

Do I suspect that he'll be fighting for playing time? Absolutely. I suspect that Beane is taking a CB in the first half of the draft and I liked what I saw of Ja'Marcus Ingram in limited time last year. But he's enough of a known quantity that Beane doesn't feel pressured thats he NEEDS to get a Week 1 starter and has to repeat the Elam mistake 

 

 

I actually don't mind Dane Jackson as a depth cb but I'm not even sure him and Ingram will make the team after the draft. 

8 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

This is my biggest fear. We’ve fallen into this trap three consecutive years in RD1 and it’s always ended up poorly. If the run on corners happens early, I hope Beane is wise enough to not again draft this years version of WR8 off the board at CB or DE

 

There are too many good dlineman to not get multiple quality, or even potential game wreckers on the dline with our first 3 picks

[BillsFan130]

36 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

You said Dane would be "inserted into the starting lineup".  Now slightly back pedaling.

 

And I expect you to be in full back pedal mode after the draft.

 

Hence why the other poster told you to relax.

 

Of course Dane is being brought in to compete.  Isn't that what all players do?

 

Difference between that and what the expectation is.  Which the expectation is for Dane to fill the CB3/4 role, which he is more than capable of.

There's so many things you're misquoting me on..

 

1. I said I fully expect the bills to draft a corner with one of their first 3 picks

 

2. I said he would be inserted into the starting line up if there was an injury. As I'm predicting they want him to be CB3. (Personally, I hope it's CB4)

 

And No I don't want a world where Dane Jackson is competing for a starting CB2 job lol. We know the player he is. If he wins or even has a chance to win the CB2 job, then it's an absolute failure by Beane addressing the corner back position

 

If he's CB4? Fine.

 

If he's CB3? Not good enough 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFan130

[Kelly to Allen]

28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Yeah I get that. But he’s gonna take a corner. My response was to the idea that he can use any of the first three picks. I’m saying if the roster stays as is, he’s taking a corner and everyone knows it. 

 

I don't know. The dline talent is outstanding and is too good to pass up. 

 

Corners like Mello Dotson And Longerbeam from Rutgers can be had in rds 4-6

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

There's so many things you're misquoting me on..

 

1. I said I fully expect the bills to draft a corner with one of their first 3 picks

 

2. I said he would be inserted into the starting line up if there was an injury. As I'm predicting they want him to be CB3. (Personally, I hope it's CB4)

 

And No I don't want a world where Dane Jackson is competing for a starting CB2 job lol. We know the player he is. If he wins or even has a chance to win the CB2 job, then it's an absolute failure by Beane addressing the corner back position

 

If he's CB4? Fine.

 

If he's CB3? Not good enough 

 

 

Not good enough as CB3....who did you want to sign instead?

 

We could take the list you're about to say and find faults in their game too.  Maybe better than Dane, but again, we're looking to the draft for CB2 at this point....so what are you complaining about?  That we don't have e a sufficient CB3?

 

You want a CB3 with upside/potential.  Who was that?

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

There's so many things you're misquoting me on..

 

1. I said I fully expect the bills to draft a corner with one of their first 3 picks

 

2. I said he would be inserted into the starting line up if there was an injury. As I'm predicting they want him to be CB3. (Personally, I hope it's CB4)

 

And No I don't want a world where Dane Jackson is competing for a starting CB2 job lol. We know the player he is. If he wins or even has a chance to win the CB2 job, then it's an absolute failure by Beane addressing the corner back position

 

If he's CB4? Fine.

 

If he's CB3? Not good enough 

 

 

 

This is just my opinion but if they draft 2-3 CBS and someone like Hardy ascends, don't you think it's possible guys like Jackson and Ingram are going to be practice squad?

 

I really think they are drafting multiple CBS, like 3 possibly 

[BillsFan130]

10 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Not good enough as CB3....who did you want to sign instead?

 

We could take the list you're about to say and find faults in their game too.  Maybe better than Dane, but again, we're looking to the draft for CB2 at this point....so what are you complaining about?  That we don't have e a sufficient CB3?

 

You want a CB3 with upside/potential.  Who was that?

Shaq Griffin, Witherspoon, Kendall

Fuller. Way better options than Dane.

 

Ya they are looking to draft CB2, doesn't mean it's going to work out does it? We drafted Cole bishop to be the starting safety last year and he got beat out by Damar Hamlin... 🤢

 

You want to live in a world that if the rookie corner doesn't pan out, that you have Dane Jackson starting on a Super Bowl calibre team?

Edited 56 minutes ago by BillsFan130

[Kelly to Allen]

6 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Shaq Griffin, Witherspoon, Kendall

Fuller. Way better options than Dane.

 

Ya they are looking to draft CB2, doesn't mean it's going to work out does it? We drafted Cole bishop to be the starting safety last year and he got beat out by Damar Hamlin... 🤢

 

You want to live in a world that if the rookie corner doesn't pan out, that you have Dane Jackson starting on a Super Bowl calibre team?

 

I still think they could sign Griffin but I just don't know if it makes sense if they plan on drafting lots of dbs

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I still think they could sign Griffin but I just don't know if it makes sense if they plan on drafting lots of dbs

Fair. What I'm trying to say overall:

 

Dane is fine if he's the CB4.

 

But if they go into the season planning for him as the CB3- And they draft a rookie assuming he will be CB2, and/or competes with Dane for the starting job, Then it's a massive failure.

 

Bring in a quality vet that's not going to cost you a ton like the names I listed above- Let him compete with the rookie, and have Dane as CB4.

 

If they do that, then I promise you I'll shut up lol