Dane Jackson signs with the Bills

[Bigvinny]

1 minute ago, Back2Buff said:

 

The regime traded up for Elam 5 months that point.  

Beane panicked because they thought they had mcduffie in the bag.

[Buffalo4Life01]

Everyone relax.  Dane is being brought in to provide depth at the cb position.  He knows the system in Buffalo and is an upgrade over Elam.  For those saying he couldn't crack a starting spot in Carolina, he started off the season on injured reserve and that really derailed any momentum he certainly would have had going into the season.  It's a solid depth signing at a position of need.  It doesn't stop the need for cb #2 but it does give some reassurance that he is capable of stepping into that role during the season if the need arises. 

[BananaB]

3 minutes ago, Bigvinny said:

Lets not panic about the roster until august or september.

It’s not panic, it’s doing the same stuff that isn’t working. That’s the Bills, that’s now their identity on defense. System and players

 

Edited 6 hours ago by BananaB

[GunnerBill]

Makes sense. He knows the D and can start without being a liability. Hope it means they won't force it in the draft now (which is what happened the Elam year) but they still need to find a way of upgrading and I still would price corner as the favourite for #30. 

[PoundingDog]

1 minute ago, In Summary said:

1-tech, CB, and WR in the draft please.

Best 1-tech and CB at pick 30.

 

To me, the likelihood a 1-tech at 30 may have a higher ceiling. But maybe McDermott can find another Tra White at 30. 

[BananaB]

13 minutes ago, Buffalo4Life01 said:

Everyone relax.  Dane is being brought in to provide depth at the cb position.  He knows the system in Buffalo and is an upgrade over Elam.  For those saying he couldn't crack a starting spot in Carolina, he started off the season on injured reserve and that really derailed any momentum he certainly would have had going into the season.  It's a solid depth signing at a position of need.  It doesn't stop the need for cb #2 but it does give some reassurance that he is capable of stepping into that role during the season if the need arises. 

I don’t believe you Sean. You’ll have him starting week 1 because of his familiarity 

Edited 6 hours ago by BananaB

[Mat68]

3 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

I get nervous this regime wouldn't play a high rookie over him...because we seen them do exactly that.

I think that was an Elam problem.  The elevation of Benford shows they dont really care about draft position.  More zone specific db.  Doesn’t fit the mold of a Beane first rder.  Jackson is the floor and allows the rookie to come along naturally.  

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Makes sense. He knows the D and can start without being a liability. Hope it means they won't force it in the draft now (which is what happened the Elam year) but they still need to find a way of upgrading and I still would price corner as the favourite for #30. 

He’s been a liability on third down his whole career

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Makes sense. He knows the D and can start without being a liability. Hope it means they won't force it in the draft now (which is what happened the Elam year) but they still need to find a way of upgrading and I still would price corner as the favourite for #30. 

So would I. Everytime I look at things I think a ton are going to go in the 30s and 40s which means they almost certainly have to take one at 30. Probably means DT at 56 or 62 

[Warriorspikes51]

If he takes the place of Elam, this is a win.

If he's here to be CB2....fail 

[oldmanfan]

I imagine they like some CBs in the draft.  And I think the coaches like Ingram more than we know

[streetkings01]

39 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Not a fan of this at all. 

 

Not that he's horrible- Just wanted someone else as Dane has a lot of limitations .

 

The rookie they draft better be good lol

He was a serviceable starter here…..excellent depth, nothing not to like!

[GASabresIUFan]

10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Take a deep breath, the world didn’t just end, we will need at minimum three CBs that can start, right now we have two to include Dane, we will be hunting down another one or two, now exhale…, 

Right now we have one, Benford.  Dan Jackson is nothing about a good depth piece and an occasional injury starter.  Beane must bring in a better player.  If we go into the season with Benford, Ingram, Jackson and a rookie draft pick as our 4 outside CBs, Beane has downgraded the position from last season and that's not a good thing.

[Kirby Jackson]

I have no issue with this at all. He’s a quality depth corner. Do I want him as CB2? No. Are they better at the position today than they were yesterday? Yes. 

[transient]

After a year as a Panther, Beane and McDermott couldn't resist him any longer. 60% of the time it works every time.

[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Right now we have one, Benford.  Dan Jackson is nothing about a good depth piece and an occasional injury starter.  Beane must bring in a better player.  If we go into the season with Benford, Ingram, Jackson and a rookie draft pick as our 4 outside CBs, Beane has downgraded the position from last season and that's not a good thing.

Again, take a deep breath, nuthin but luv, 😁👍

[Kirby Jackson]

4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Right now we have one, Benford.  Dan Jackson is nothing about a good depth piece and an occasional injury starter.  Beane must bring in a better player.  If we go into the season with Benford, Ingram, Jackson and a rookie draft pick as our 4 outside CBs, Beane has downgraded the position from last season and that's not a good thing.

Why would you expect him to not keep adding? This move was about raising the floor, not the ceiling. That will come in the draft. The Bills are better there today than they were yesterday. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Little big baller Beane history, You have Dane Jackson and Levi Wallace, who are fine depth, but terrible when called upon to start. Go into 2022 offseason and make no additions so everyone knows you are taking a corner in the draft, despite propping Dane up as a starter. Trade up for Elam spending a 4th to move up, just missing out on an all pro. Spend a 6 on Benford. Elam is terrible, Benford awesome. Tre White gets hurt, so you have to trade a 3rd for a corner, Douglas, because your depth, Dane Jackson, is not good enough and your first-round pick Elam is terrible. Let Dane leave, cut Tre, trade Elam, move on from Rasul. Go into 2025 offseason with a glaring hole at corner, sign Dane Jackson, and make no addition so everyone knows you are taking a corner in the draft, despite propping Dane up as a starter. Hopefully, this last part doesn't happen. Holding out hope they add something else. 

 

Yeah, it's an overreaction, but seriously for a front office who harps on the idea of learning from their mistakes, it sure feels like deja vu to me. Like we just did this. 

 

Since 2022

 

Elam cost 1 and 4

Benford cost a 6

Trade for Douglas and a 5 for a 3rd

Spend a 6 on Hardy

Get a six and a 7 for Elam and a 5

 

So we spent a 1, a 3, a 4, 2 6ths and we have: 

1 corner - Benford

a 6 this year and a 7 next as the return for Elam

Ulofosio (green bay's 5)

and Hardy on a futures contract.

 

It's just silly is all. Again, I hope he makes more moves here. 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by MrEpsYtown

[boyst]

47 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Not a fan of this at all. 

 

Not that he's horrible- Just wanted someone else as Dane has a lot of limitations .

 

The rookie they draft better be good lol

At least the team knows them all. 

15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Makes sense. He knows the D and can start without being a liability. Hope it means they won't force it in the draft now (which is what happened the Elam year) but they still need to find a way of upgrading and I still would price corner as the favourite for #30. 

Wonder what the final offer was to Douglas at this point. There was an offer. If I'm Douglas I wait until camps begin and an injury pops up.

[Buffalo4Life01]

Anyone think we trade up into the 1st round to go after a CB or DT or do you see Beane staying put this year?  I certainly don't see us trading back this time...