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The NFL is considering some rule changes in 2025:

 

1. Regular season OT rules modified to playoff format - Ever since 13 seconds this one has been under fire. They obviously changed it for the postseason but it does IMO need to be changed for the regular season. We shouldn't have to be worried if our team will get the ball in OT based on a coin toss (controversy in 49ers chiefs game also)

 

2. Virtual measurements - I think that will be better so we don't have to worry about blind refs. Ehem... Josh Allen spot in Bills-Chiefs game on QB sneak... CBS Sports - "The NFL would be using Sony's Hawk-Eye SkeleTRACK system, a 14-camera system that specifically monitors more than two-dozen skeletal points on a player's body. "That system, along with the chips in the footballs and the 18 other specific cameras strategically placed around the stadium"

 

3. Replay assist could have more power - CBS sports "step in for objective penalties like a facemask. This version of replay assist would only apply if a flag is thrown that should NOT have been thrown." BUT.. the one that wasn't called on Sam Darnold would not be able to be replayed because replay can't throw a flag if the refs didn't

 

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6 minutes ago, ryguy101 said:

The NFL is considering some rule changes in 2025:

 

1. Regular season OT rules modified to playoff format - Ever since 13 seconds this one has been under fire. They obviously changed it for the postseason but it does IMO need to be changed for the regular season. We shouldn't have to be worried if our team will get the ball in OT based on a coin toss (controversy in 49ers chiefs game also)

 

2. Virtual measurements - I think that will be better so we don't have to worry about blind refs. Ehem... Josh Allen spot in Bills-Chiefs game on QB sneak... CBS Sports - "The NFL would be using Sony's Hawk-Eye SkeleTRACK system, a 14-camera system that specifically monitors more than two-dozen skeletal points on a player's body. "That system, along with the chips in the footballs and the 18 other specific cameras strategically placed around the stadium"

 

3. Replay assist could have more power - CBS sports "step in for objective penalties like a facemask. This version of replay assist would only apply if a flag is thrown that should NOT have been thrown." BUT.. the one that wasn't called on Sam Darnold would not be able to be replayed because replay can't throw a flag if the refs didn't

 

 

#3 is pandoras box.  They can't allow replay assist to retroactively apply a flag which I get but it also is what would make it the most effective.  The next step is letting coaches challenge missed penalties.  There is no way that Darnold play shouldn't be corrected when everyone knows what happened.

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Make sense nothing wrong with these, though I doubt teams care that much about the OT rules in the regular season matching the Playoff ones. Honestly on that I'd rather the Playoff ones actually solve the problem, they just kicked the can a little further to a more unlikely scenario but one that definitely could have happened in that Bills Chiefs game. Sure both teams get a shot but if both of them score a TD then the next team that scores one wins then it's the same damn thing.

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I really want them to go back to 15:00 OT quarters instead of 10:00. It's stupid and makes no sense. And for the love of God, Eliminate the onside kick. I have been in favor of the 4th & 15 play from the 30 or 35 yard line. The onside kick, especially with the new rules of no surprise onside is just an automatic game over for the kicking team. A 4th & 15 at least gives them a a somewhat better chance 

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1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

I really want them to go back to 15:00 OT quarters instead of 10:00. It's stupid and makes no sense. And for the love of God, Eliminate the onside kick. I have been in favor of the 4th & 15 play from the 30 or 35 yard line. The onside kick, especially with the new rules of no surprise onside is just an automatic game over for the kicking team. A 4th & 15 at least gives them a a somewhat better chance 

 

The biggest issue is what to do if there is a penalty.  Defensive holding and its an automatic first down?  That's cheap and we all know will lead to some questionable calls.  Replay the down?  Now the defense can do what they need if they get beat to not allow the catch and what they get a redo?

 

I love the theory too but I don't see a way to make it a reality.

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14 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

The biggest issue is what to do if there is a penalty.  Defensive holding and its an automatic first down?  That's cheap and we all know will lead to some questionable calls.  Replay the down?  Now the defense can do what they need if they get beat to not allow the catch and what they get a redo?

 

I love the theory too but I don't see a way to make it a reality.

This could be the one instance where there is no automatic first down. They can make it to where defensive holding on this particular play is just like a 5 yard difference or something. So, instead of it being 1st & 10, it becomes 4th & 10 and 5 yards closer. The same can be done with PI. It's a 5 yard penalty and a 4th & 10 instead of a spot foul. Or just a redo down but you only get 3 tries. If the defense commits PI or holding. It is a 4th & 15 again. If the defense commits one of those 2 penalties again, then it's a 4th & 10 & 5 yards closer. If the defense does it a 3rd time then it's an automatic 1st down. If the offense commits a penalty then it's a turnover on downs and no 2nd opportunity. There are ways to work around it but to me the onside kick is outdated and just doesn't work anymore. Everything about it favors the receiving team

 

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The OT rule I think is dumb, due to the physical nature of the game they should be shortening the OT time frame during the regular season. I would be against them changing the rule to something similar to college but if a star player gets hurt in an OT because his teammates are exhausted the league will change it right back.

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4 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

The OT rule I think is dumb, due to the physical nature of the game they should be shortening the OT time frame during the regular season. I would be against them changing the rule to something similar to college but if a star player gets hurt in an OT because his teammates are exhausted the league will change it right back.

They lowered OT down from 15:00 to 10:00 for "player safety" but then proceeded to add an entire game to the schedule after that. I don't wanna hear about physical nature of the game or "player safety". 15:00 OTs make a lot more sense

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1 hour ago, section122 said:

 

The biggest issue is what to do if there is a penalty.  Defensive holding and its an automatic first down?  That's cheap and we all know will lead to some questionable calls.  Replay the down?  Now the defense can do what they need if they get beat to not allow the catch and what they get a redo?

 

I love the theory too but I don't see a way to make it a reality.

Defensive holding is the most “rigged” flag in the NFL. I’ve seen it change outcomes of games so many times 

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Get rid of regular season overtime entirely. Playoffs get additional full quarters until someone wins.

 

“Chip in the ball” probably can’t work with adequate precision so the visual wireframe reference points make sense. Might not help as much as we hope.

 

3 sounds great.

 

 Still don’t like the new kickoff.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I really want them to go back to 15:00 OT quarters instead of 10:00. It's stupid and makes no sense. And for the love of God, Eliminate the onside kick. I have been in favor of the 4th & 15 play from the 30 or 35 yard line. The onside kick, especially with the new rules of no surprise onside is just an automatic game over for the kicking team. A 4th & 15 at least gives them a a somewhat better chance 

Yes. Overtime should be 15:00.

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2 hours ago, section122 said:

 

#3 is pandoras box.  They can't allow replay assist to retroactively apply a flag which I get but it also is what would make it the most effective.  The next step is letting coaches challenge missed penalties.  There is no way that Darnold play shouldn't be corrected when everyone knows what happened.

Anything subjective is absolutley a pandora's box.....they tried it with DPI/OPI and the refs refused to overturn almost anything to the point no on would challenge at all.  There are definitely plays that are "obvious" but the challenge comes in the ones that are not as obvious....fans just find ways to say the ref should obviously interpret in the way that benefits their team.  I love the way they have fixed errors on the spot with no challenge for non subjective items....they should work to add to that.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I really want them to go back to 15:00 OT quarters instead of 10:00. It's stupid and makes no sense. And for the love of God, Eliminate the onside kick. I have been in favor of the 4th & 15 play from the 30 or 35 yard line. The onside kick, especially with the new rules of no surprise onside is just an automatic game over for the kicking team. A 4th & 15 at least gives them a a somewhat better chance 

I hate the idea of the 4th & 15.
The strategy of the game is to get up by 2-3 scores to make it difficult for the opponent to come back.  The winning team thru 3 qtrs worked hard and had to march up & down the field to score.  Then the 4th qtr comes and we make it easier to re-gain possession and score more easily when the clock and score should be working against them.

 

If you're losing - yeah - it's great; but if you're winning, it seems (to me) the NFL would be diminishing the lead that was built.

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1 minute ago, Never NEVER Give-up said:

I hate the idea of the 4th & 15.
The strategy of the game is to get up by 2-3 scores to make it difficult for the opponent to come back.  The winning team thru 3 qtrs worked hard and had to march up & down the field to score.  Then the 4th qtr comes and we make it easier to re-gain possession and score more easily when the clock and score should be working against them.

 

If you're losing - yeah - it's great; but if you're winning, it seems (to me) the NFL would be diminishing the lead that was built.

Many forget that they already do what they can to keep games close in terms of calls. 

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Why can’t the NFL just admit that the NCAA has figured out the OT thing and implement that. 
 

I actually don’t like that they call it overtime, since it’s untimed. But outside of semantics, it’s score and keep the other team from scoring - that’s kinda the point of football. 

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