zow2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I didn’t read this whole thread,, is Elam the biggest bust draft pick on Beane’s resume? Quote
Bill from NYC Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: I would have given him away for free honestly. Getting rid of his cap space is a win on its own. The amazing thing about this situation is that the Bills actually traded UP in round one to draft this cornerback. Then again, maybe it wasn't so amazing. Pitiful nonetheless. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-jump-into-round-one-trade-frenzy-to-land-cb-kaiir-elam Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) ESPN graded this trade as a B+ for us and a B- for the Cowboys. We got the first of three Dallas comp picks in the 5th so it’s really an early 6th (better than a release). On what may be an ironic note (based on the scarcity of viable “starting” CB2s still available), they also equated this trade to 2023 when the Falcons traded Jeff Okudah (pick 3 of the 1st round in 2020) for a 5th (imagine the anger on TSW if that was us!). Seems clear that one our top three picks will be the future CB2 (and/or heir apparent to Benford if we don’t extend him). Edited 12 hours ago by biggerdaddynj Quote
hondo in seattle Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Magox said: It just didn’t work out. Needed a fresh start. Should free up $2.7M Good Job by Beane to get something for him I get what you're saying but it's hard for me to say anything congratulatory about Beane for a 1st round pick that never contributes and then gets dumped for a 5th and a 6th. 4 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: I get what you're saying but it's hard for me to say anything congratulatory about Beane for a 1st round pick that never contributes and then gets dumped for a 5th and a 6th. I am with you. But I do give them credit for actually moving on instead of trying to force their pick to work. Other than that, this whole saga was a massive failure of evaluation and drafting 1 Quote
Magox Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: I get what you're saying but it's hard for me to say anything congratulatory about Beane for a 1st round pick that never contributes and then gets dumped for a 5th and a 6th. I hear ya but that sin was committed 4 years ago and the blow is somewhat softened with Benford being a late round draft pick that ended up being what we wanted Elam to be. And for where we are now, it was good that he was able to recoup some draft value and take off $2.5M from the cap 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, zow2 said: I didn’t read this whole thread,, is Elam the biggest bust draft pick on Beane’s resume? Probably, but everybody has a worst. He’s not alone, but I’d love to have known what the scouting on him looked like. Who was the lead scout, what did he think, and what is he doing today. We all make mistakes, but…. 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Good for both sides…. Bills need the cap and roster space…. Elam needs a fresh start. Good luck to him, and I hope we have better luck on whomever we draft with those picks. Quote
BobbyC81 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: I’ll be interested to see the compensation but this is the same team that Gabe up a 4th for bust Johnathon Mingo at the deadline Is “Gabe up” a slang? I would think that it would mean “to drop” or “to disappear”. 1 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 38 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: ESPN graded this trade as a B+ for us and a B- for the Cowboys. We got the first of three Dallas comp picks in the 5th so it’s really an early 6th (better than a release). On what may be an ironic note (based on the scarcity of viable “starting” CB2s still available), they also equated this trade to 2023 when the Falcons traded Jeff Okudah (pick 3 of the 1st round in 2020) for a 5th (imagine the anger on TSW if that was us!). Seems clear that one our top three picks will be the future CB2 (and/or heir apparent to Benford if we don’t extend him). And which 6th did we give up? Quote
todd Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 51 minutes ago, zow2 said: I didn’t read this whole thread,, is Elam the biggest bust draft pick on Beane’s resume? No doubt. Huge mistake. 1 Quote
notpolian Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Finally. It'll be amusing if he gets playing time and is decent in Dallas. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 19 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said: And which 6th did we give up? #208 for what I seen. The last one. 1 Quote
BRH Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago I haven’t read the thread but I hope someone pointed out that if Beane had taken Benford in the 1st round and Elam in the 6th, he wouldn’t have been able to get ***** for Elam. 4D chess! 4 Quote
BigDingus Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Hallelujah! I was worried we'd never get anything for him! Finally, the biggest bust in the Beane era is gone. Quote
BRH Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, Steptide said: What an absolute bust. Honestly may be one of the worst 1st round picks ever Erik Flowers and Aaron Maybin would like a word. Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 37 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said: And which 6th did we give up? We gave up pick (6th) 204 and got back (5th) 170. Here are our picks as of now (post-Elam trade): Round 1: No. 30 overall Round 2: Nos. 56 (from Vikings through Texans), 62 Round 4: Nos. 109 (from Bears), 132 Round 5: Nos. 169 (Compensatory Selection), 170 (from Cowboys), 173 (Compensatory Selection) Round 6: Nos. 177 (from Giants), 204 (from Lions through Browns), 206 I would love to see Beane move some 4ths into the 3rd. He’s got plenty of spots to move around because we don’t have room for all those picks. Edited 11 hours ago by biggerdaddynj 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: I get what you're saying but it's hard for me to say anything congratulatory about Beane for a 1st round pick that never contributes and then gets dumped for a 5th and a 6th. Meanwhile the Chiefs kept CEH around for 5 years and just let him walk as an UFA. Quote
Billsguy Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 4 hours ago, Magox said: Good Job by Beane to get something for him WTF? Another epic fail for Beane. He drafted this bust in the first round. Beane has so many fails that have been covered up by an outstanding QB. Quote
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