Kaiir Elam traded to Cowboys

[ganesh]

6 hours ago, Magox said:

Wow!

 

Beane fleeced the Cowboys!

We gave a sixth back 

[balln]

44 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It was actually written in chalk 

Because corner especially in McDermott system, takes as much brain as physical talent 

 

His processing never came to full speed

Nah/ his transitions were bad. Dude just can’t play nfl starting cornerback. It happens 

[The Wiz]

36 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You're letting Beane off the hook here. 

 

Getting a 5th in return for a 1st round pick is no wizardry.  

A 1st round pick that amounted to 12 starts over 3 years with 2 INTs and 6 pass break ups.

 

 

How much did we get for Maybin???  Oh right, we waived him.

 

[Buffalo716]

13 minutes ago, balln said:

Nah/ his transitions were bad. Dude just can’t play nfl starting cornerback. It happens 

I mean every single player has a lot of talent.. scheme fit and confidence have a lot to do with a corners abilities 

 

You act like he goes in and gives up 200 yards against him.. he's had some good moments he's picked off Patrick mahomes 

 

Corner is a position where repetition gains experience and he never got to playthrough all the trial and error.. we basically instantly replaced him with Benford from the same draft 

 

He never got to develop while also not being the greatest scheme fit.. we were trying to put a square peg into a round hole from day one

 

Nobody's talking about him being a starter for a while.. but it's because he shot mentally not physically

Edited March 13 by Buffalo716

[ShakAttack]

It's hard to look at this as a great success just because we got a 5th round pick for him.

 

It seems too easily forgotten that before getting the 5th, we spent a 1st to get him.

 

Also sad & unfortunate is the fact that AFTER the Elam pick in 2022 was probably the best we have ever seen from Beane in rounds 2-6.

 

2    James Cook 
3    Terrel Bernard
5    Khalil Shaki
6    Christian Benford    

 

Remarkable.

 

And it probably would have been McDuffie if the Chiefs didn't jump in front of us to snag him, resulting in the panicked Elam selection.

 

ALWAYS THE CHIEFS FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[stevestojan]

Heard the Stars also sent over a bag of used practice pucks. I’d say even trade. 

[Sojourner]

Aside from QB, absolutely the hardest position the play at a quality or high level in the pros. 
 

hope they hit another home run when they choose to go the CB route in this upcoming draft. 
 

 

All the best to Elam, sucks it didn’t work out for him. Hopefully this kickstarts his career. 

[Since1981]

2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

I’ll be honest, I didn’t even think he was tradeable. Getting anything is a manor W for the Bills. What a massive bust 

What’s remarkable about most #1 busts is that even they tend to show flashes of potential, giving us hope that something might click. But with Elam, the instincts were off from day one—there hasn’t been a single moment or glimpse of promise. It’s rare for a #1 bust to not even tease us a little!

Edited March 13 by Since1981

[gonzo1105]

I can’t believe after 4 years of watching him people still defend him. He was awful here, he wasn’t that good his last year at Florida. He was taken on attributes and athleticism 

[Thrivefourfive]

This thing isn’t even close to played out. What if he’s good with Dallas?!?!

[Aussie Joe]

12 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

I can’t believe after 4 years of watching him people still defend him. He was awful here, he wasn’t that good his last year at Florida. He was taken on attributes and athleticism 

Even Joe Marino wanted to bring him back next season !
 

Surely it’s in both parties interest to move on and get a fresh start ..i

[gonzo1105]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Even Joe Marino wanted to bring him back next season !
 

Surely it’s in both parties interest to move on and get a fresh start ..i

While I respect Joe and his work, his opinion is just that and shouldn’t be taken as a given that Bills fans have to listen to at his every whim. I have said since he was drafted that Elam was gonna bust and there hasn’t been one moment that has even remotely made me question that opinion 

[Thrivefourfive]

1 hour ago, Sojourner said:

Aside from QB, absolutely the hardest position the play at a quality or high level in the pros. 

Right you are.

 

There has to be a formula to these guys. It’s not size. It’s definitely speed. And burst. -Like always hitting the turbo button, just squirting all over the field until the ballcarrier is mauled. 
 

I remember seeing one clip of Witherspoon, Seattle, when he was drafted, and thinking he’s a killer. It was very recognizable. He’s third best CB run stopper (PFF). definitely a draft blue chipper, but his weight could have been a problem. It’s not. Of the two bodies, Elam is better. Maybe Bills should target mauler CBs, and forget the Statue of David mold. Know who I love,, Cam Lewis is my man. I always want him on the roster. Dude’s inspiring. Maybe bring Cam in on how you evaluate corner..

 

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/devon-witherspoon/101388

[Freddie's Dead]

Farewell Kaiir Elam, and we thank you.

[stevestojan]

Sorry I don’t think Instagram links imbed well, but this is hilarious/brutal. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHHJTmGPVg2/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[davefan66]

4 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

This thing isn’t even close to played out. What if he’s good with Dallas?!?!

 

 

Didn’t work out with us, needed to be off the roster.  Should we have kept him scared he may blossom elsewhere?

 

I say good luck to him!

[SoMAn]

7 hours ago, ShakAttack said:

It's hard to look at this as a great success just because we got a 5th round pick for him.

 

It seems too easily forgotten that before getting the 5th, we spent a 1st to get him.

 

Also sad & unfortunate is the fact that AFTER the Elam pick in 2022 was probably the best we have ever seen from Beane in rounds 2-6.

 

2    James Cook 
3    Terrel Bernard
5    Khalil Shaki
6    Christian Benford    

 

Remarkable.

 

And it probably would have been McDuffie if the Chiefs didn't jump in front of us to snag him, resulting in the panicked Elam selection.

 

ALWAYS THE CHIEFS FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I've stated this previously, so forgive me for being redundant...

Beane was caught between a rock and a hard place when they reached for Elam. Levi Wallace was gone in FA. Tre White was coming off a serious injury and his immediate future and ability to contribute was in doubt. Then, the icing on the cake was the run on CBs in that draft before the Bills were up.

I believe Beane desperately wanted McDuffie, but of course, our arch nemesis Kansas City snagged him a couple picks ahead of us. Ughhh!

There weren't too many options in free agency. Beane had no other choice. There was a gaping hole in the CB position(s). He had to gamble. Elam seemed eager to learn and he had athletic ability. 

For whatever reason, it never worked out. I suspect he was simply unable to process the defensive schemes that rely on communication and everyone being on the same page. He was unable to be part of a bigger unit that had to work in concert. 

Unfortunately, I don't believe Beane learned his lesson. I hope I'm wrong, but I think he took the same 'desperation and need' approach when they took Coleman as a consolation prize after the run on WRs. 

Best of luck to Elam. Just glad we got something in return that can be used to find a contributing player or as trade capital when bundled with other mid round picks.

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You're letting Beane off the hook here. 

 

Getting a 5th in return for a 1st round pick is no wizardry.  

It is when we got ANYTHING for Elam. He never was a fit in our Defense and never played a play on STs. 
I get it though. Your day isn’t complete without bashing your 5peat Division Champs or their mgmnt. It’s what you do and what you bring. 🤦‍♂️

Edited March 13 by Chandler#81

[BarleyNY]

20 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

I've stated this previously, so forgive me for being redundant...

Beane was caught between a rock and a hard place when they reached for Elam. Levi Wallace was gone in FA. Tre White was coming off a serious injury and his immediate future and ability to contribute was in doubt. Then, the icing on the cake was the run on CBs in that draft before the Bills were up.

I believe Beane desperately wanted McDuffie, but of course, our arch nemesis Kansas City snagged him a couple picks ahead of us. Ughhh!

There weren't too many options in free agency. Beane had no other choice. There was a gaping hole in the CB position(s). He had to gamble. Elam seemed eager to learn and he had athletic ability. 

For whatever reason, it never worked out. I suspect he was simply unable to process the defensive schemes that rely on communication and everyone being on the same page. He was unable to be part of a bigger unit that had to work in concert. 

Unfortunately, I don't believe Beane learned his lesson. I hope I'm wrong, but I think he took the same 'desperation and need' approach when they took Coleman as a consolation prize after the run on WRs. 

Best of luck to Elam. Just glad we got something in return that can be used to find a contributing player or as trade capital when bundled with other mid round picks.

 

It’s not a valid excuse because Beane put himself into that position. He should have addressed CB prior to the draft. It didn’t have to be an All Pro addition, just a competent CB. He chose not to do that. That mistake was an advertisement to everyone that he had to take a CB in round 1. My prediction was not only that he’d do that, but that he’d trade up in the round to do it, which happened. KC knew what was going to happen, so they jumped up to get McDuffie before we could slide up a couple spots to get him ourselves. 

[T master]

It does suck that he couldn't come around but at least the team got something for him and hopefully can add a player with the pick that may turn into a player like a Millano ...