Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 8:43 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Chris Johnson was even faster. Why wasn’t he a field stretcher? There’s nuance to it. Can he make a few plays down the field? Probably. Keon is better down the field than Samuel and is much slower. It isn’t just speed. Palmer is the guy to do that now. He has been really good down the field. Expand Dont care about Chris Johnson. Samuel is a WR who has speed to stretch the field. Palmer is a guy we need but isnt a field stretcher. We have a speeed guy , we need to use him like he was in Washington 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 7:06 PM, MrEpsYtown said: He’s a move all over guy. He’s a flanker in my book. He was once the premier route running guy and the best player against man. Obviously he has slowed down a bunch, but I think he fits. Shakir Palmer Kupp Coleman Samuel Shavers in the Hollins role That’s what I have in my mind. Is there a deep speed guy? Not particularly, but that’s not our offense. It’s about route running and getting open and Kupp is still one of the best imo. Despite being a slot, Shakir is really the number 1 and everyone else falls in line. Also Kupp is not small, he’s 6-2, 205 which would make him the third biggest guy on the roster outside of Coleman and Shavers. Expand I’ll pass on him … not because he isn’t a good player or doesn’t have one more good year left in him …. But I’ll go the field stretching speed guy instead … or another guy in the draft with some upside that can make a difference for the next couple or years … not just 1 like Kupp The problem is that they are married to Samuel one more year … they need more from him next season … lots more Quote
Victory Formation Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 8:59 PM, MJS said: Too old and hurt too much. Expand Cooper Kupp played in 12 games last year and if we went by yards alone he would only be behind Khalil Shakir and Shakir played in 3 more games than Kupp. 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 8:40 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: He wasn't debo like last year, considering his speed there is no reason why he cant stretch the field. "WR Samuel ran a 4.31-second 40-yard dash at the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine, making him the 19th fastest player in the NFL" Google Expand It was the fastest combine 40 time in Ohio State history (since matched) 1 Quote
Bill51390 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 8:47 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: Dont care about Chris Johnson. Samuel is a WR who has speed to stretch the field. Palmer is a guy we need but isnt a field stretcher. We have a speeed guy , we need to use him like he was in Washington Expand Yes Samuel is quick. But he’s never been a stretch the field receiver. That’s not his style. Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 9:07 PM, Bill51390 said: Yes Samuel is quick. But he’s never been a stretch the field receiver. That’s not his style. Expand time to add to his game 1 Quote
MJS Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 9:03 PM, Victory Formation said: Cooper Kupp played in 12 games last year and if we went by yards alone he would only be behind Khalil Shakir and Shakir played in 3 more games than Kupp. Expand He is also a slot player, and that's not exactly what we need. Quote
Victory Formation Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 9:40 PM, MJS said: He is also a slot player, and that's not exactly what we need. Expand He was 100% slot? He lined up on the outside 0% of the time? 1 Quote
HamptonBillsfan Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 8:36 PM, RichRiderBills said: Beasley was awesome in his final full season w bills. I agree he died off quick though. Kupp had like 67 grabs last year and had a huge drop in his last 3-4 games. Basically he was on pace for an 80 catch season. He had health issues towards the end. It's a very small sample size to say he's cooked. Kupp had that one insane year, but he's really a guy who gets 70-80 grabs a year. Expand On 3/12/2025 at 8:43 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Chris Johnson was even faster. Why wasn’t he a field stretcher? There’s nuance to it. Can he make a few plays down the field? Probably. Keon is better down the field than Samuel and is much slower. It isn’t just speed. Palmer is the guy to do that now. He has been really good down the field. Expand I love Kupp but he is a slot and Shakir is younger and plays every game.Palmer gives us a vertical threat and a guy who creates separation. He’s relatively cheap and he was the Chargers #2. His contribution with Josh throwing to him will be better than his previous record. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 (edited) Google AI: Cooper Kupp played outside on approximately 37.6% of his snaps since 2021, his breakout year, with the remaining snaps being played in the slot (56.7%) or in other positions (5.7%) wait what? You mean we could actually have Shakir and Kupp on the field at the same time?! What a Revelation 😂 Edited March 12 by Warriorspikes51 1 3 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 10:34 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: Google AI: Cooper Kupp played outside on approximately 37.6% of his snaps since 2021, his breakout year, with the remaining snaps being played in the slot (56.7%) or in other positions (5.7%) wait what? You mean we could actually have Shakir and Kupp on the field at the same time?! What a Revelation 😂 Expand Yeah I agree and go back to the trade deadline when they tried to get him, reportedly pretty hard, they obviously feel he can play with Shakir! 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 12 Posted March 12 On 3/12/2025 at 10:34 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: Google AI: Cooper Kupp played outside on approximately 37.6% of his snaps since 2021, his breakout year, with the remaining snaps being played in the slot (56.7%) or in other positions (5.7%) wait what? You mean we could actually have Shakir and Kupp on the field at the same time?! What a Revelation 😂 Expand must be hallucinating! Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 (edited) On 3/12/2025 at 10:41 PM, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I agree and go back to the trade deadline when they tried to get him, reportedly pretty hard, they obviously feel he can play with Shakir! Expand we did? I thought that was KC Edited March 12 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 I could see the Chiefs on this one. Seems like someone the Chargers would sniff on too 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) On 3/12/2025 at 10:43 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: we did? I thought that was KC Expand I read it somewhere. But asking price was high is what I recall… Edit: Diana Rossini in the atheltic around the deadline Edited March 13 by MrEpsYtown Quote
Jimmy Harris 69 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 My bet is Seattle or San Diego or KC. His family is from the state of Washington. He is a good run game blocker, important to those teams. He’s a shadow of his greatness but high character. I think the market will be soft for him like other older vet WRs. D-hop got a one year deal, he will likely get the same. 1 Quote
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