Cooper Kupp Released

[Low Positive]

Just now, HOUSE said:

Cleveland Browns, 147 million, 2 year fully guaranteed 

[Gregg]

The next Bills receiver they get will come from this draft. 

[PonyBoy]

4 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Cleveland Browns, 147 million, 2 year fully guaranteed 

 

That's a lot of massages!!

 

[nedboy7]

8 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Cleveland Browns, 147 million, 2 year fully guaranteed 

Im done w Bean!! 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

He’s a move all over guy. He’s a flanker in my book. He was once the premier route running guy and the best player against man. Obviously he has slowed down a bunch, but I think he fits. 
 

Shakir 

Palmer

Kupp

Coleman

Samuel

Shavers in the Hollins role

 

That’s what I have in my mind. Is there a deep speed guy? Not particularly, but that’s not our offense. It’s about route running and getting open and Kupp is still one of the best imo. Despite being a slot, Shakir is really the number 1 and everyone else falls in line. 
 

Also Kupp is not small, he’s 6-2, 205 which would make him the third biggest guy on the roster outside of Coleman and Shavers. 

 

Samuel is the speed guy, they should use him as such instead of gadget guy

 

 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Samuel is the speed guy, they should use him as such instead of gadget guy

 

 

Yeah I think he could be. He’s so fast, but he’s never been used as a straight line deep downfield guy, but he certainly could be. 

[sven233]

Unfortunately, this has KC written all over it.  He'd excel there.

 

Not sure of the fit here.  He can play outside, but is better suited for the slot.  With Shakir and Kincaid here (and Coleman who should see more snaps inside), the fit really isn't right.  Wouldn't be mad at it for the right money as he could be a stop gap on the outside, but it's not something at this point I see us doing.  We need an outside speedster with some explosiveness.  It's still the one thing missing from this WR room and it is a glaring need.

[Success]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Another slot WR? You guys need help!

 

They can get creative.  Kupp is a great separation guy, and would be the best receiver on our roster.

 

[TheBeaneBandit]

3 minutes ago, Success said:

 

They can get creative.  Kupp is a great separation guy, and would be the best receiver on our roster.

 

This. Right. Here.

[HamptonBillsfan]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I think it’ll be KC or Chargers

let me know when Shakir has 400 yards, 6TDs and a SB MVP in one playoff season

Those stats were 3 years and 17 missed games ago. Now he’s Cole Beasley in his final seasons with the Bills. Shakir is our best receiver and Josh’s go to clutch 1st down machine.

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Yes.

[Kirby Jackson]

56 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Samuel is the speed guy, they should use him as such instead of gadget guy

 

 

He runs fast but he isn’t a speed guy. He’s a converted RB. Samuel is good with the ball in his hands. 

[stlbills13]

I may sign him just to keep him away from KC 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He runs fast but he isn’t a speed guy. He’s a converted RB. Samuel is good with the ball in his hands. 

 

doesn't he run a 4.31 ??

 

 

[H2o]

He'll go to KC and have a good year if he stays healthy

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

doesn't he run a 4.31 ??

 

 

Chris Johnson ran a 4.2. He was a RB. It’s a different skill set. Samuel is a chess piece. He’s Deebo-like. He isn’t as physical and is faster. Samuel isn’t going to be the field stretcher.

[RichRiderBills]

29 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Those stats were 3 years and 17 missed games ago. Now he’s Cole Beasley in his final seasons with the Bills. Shakir is our best receiver and Josh’s go to clutch 1st down machine.

 

Beasley was awesome in his final full season w bills. I agree he died off quick though. 

 

Kupp had like 67 grabs last year and had a huge drop in his last 3-4 games. Basically he was on pace for an 80 catch season. He had health issues towards the end. It's a very small sample size to say he's cooked.

 

Kupp had that one insane year, but he's really a guy who gets 70-80 grabs a year. 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Chris Johnson ran a 4.2. He was a RB. It’s a different skill set. Samuel is a chess piece. He’s Deebo-like. He isn’t as physical and is faster. Samuel isn’t going to be the field stretcher.

 

He wasn't debo like last year, considering his speed there is no reason why he cant stretch the field.

 

"WR Samuel ran a 4.31-second 40-yard dash at the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine, making him the 19th fastest player in the NFL" Google

 

 

[turbo044]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

The next Bills receiver they get will come from this draft. 

I think you're right.  Here are guys they may be targeting with 40 time and projected round, a lot of speed but a lot of these guys have little production in college.  Bolded is whom I'd target

 

 

Matthew Golden (WR) - 4.29 seconds    1ST

Dont'e Thornton Jr. (WR) - 4.30 seconds  6TH

Chimer ***** (WR) 4.34  NR

Jaylin Lane (WR) 4.34  7TH

Arian Smith (WR) 4.36    7TH

Tai Felton (WR) 4.37  4TH

Keandre Lambert-Smith (WR) 4.37   7TH

Jordan Watkins (WR) 4.37  NR

Isaiah Bond (WR) 4.39  2ND

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

He wasn't debo like last year, considering his speed there is no reason why he cant stretch the field.

 

"WR Samuel ran a 4.31-second 40-yard dash at the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine, making him the 19th fastest player in the NFL" Google

 

 

Chris Johnson was even faster. Why wasn’t he a field stretcher? There’s nuance to it. Can he make a few plays down the field? Probably. Keon is better down the field than Samuel and is much slower. It isn’t just speed. Palmer is the guy to do that now. He has been really good down the field.