Chiefs and Commanders tampering with Ronnie Stanley

[DJB]

 

Strip the Chiefs of their 1st and take the Commanders 4th please 

Edited 5 hours ago by DJB

[ColoradoBills]

Bailiff, whack their peepees.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, DJB said:

 

Strip the Chiefs of their 1st and take the Commanders 4th please 

Most teams tamper ahead of time. Many of the "deals" agreed to on Monday had been done for days or even weeks. Let's be real here. But if it costs the Chiefs something I'm all for it.

[KingBoots8]

2 minutes ago, DJB said:

 

Strip the Chiefs of their 1st and take the Commanders 4th please 

Flag: false start

 

As a result of the play that negatively impacts the Chiefs, the Bills will be penalized 3 1st rounders, and a forced trade with KC in the next 2 drafts of 2nd round picks 

 

The Patriots have also been awarded a 3rd round pick, as is tradition

[17islongenough]

This happens all the time.   The Bucs signed Reddick at 12:01.  No way you can call and get the numbers figured in one minute.   Just let this happen at the combine 

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Most teams tamper ahead of time. Many of the "deals" agreed to on Monday had been done for days or even weeks. Let's be real here. But if it costs the Chiefs something I'm all for it.

Says who? That's just speculation. And that's a common fallacy that people who break the rules and the law use to justify their actions. If everyone is doing it, it makes it OK for me to do it. But there is not evidence that all the teams are breaking the rules.

1 minute ago, 17islongenough said:

This happens all the time.   The Bucs signed Reddick at 12:01.  No way you can call and get the numbers figured in one minute.   Just let this happen at the combine 

There's a legal tampering period now.

[4merper4mer]

2 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Flag: false start

 

As a result of the play that negatively impacts the Chiefs, the Bills will be penalized 3 1st rounders, and a forced trade with KC in the next 2 drafts of 2nd round picks 

 

The Patriots have also been awarded a 3rd round pick, as is tradition

To be fair, Bosa’s nose WAS in the neutral zone again.

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Says who? That's just speculation. And that's a common fallacy that people who break the rules and the law use to justify their actions. If everyone is doing it, it makes it OK for me to do it. But there is not evidence that all the teams are breaking the rules.

There's a legal tampering period now.

You...you still believe in Santa Clause, don't you?

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, MJS said:

Says who? That's just speculation. And that's a common fallacy that people who break the rules and the law use to justify their actions. If everyone is doing it, it makes it OK for me to do it. But there is not evidence that all the teams are breaking the rules.

There's a legal tampering period now.

 

Its not really speculation though, I mean people no longer in the league, like former GM's, have alluded or even confirmed that this does go on.  

 

I agree with you about how people justify it by saying everyone does it, and that also doesn't mean "all" teams or GM's do it.  But I would say it certainly does happen and probably at a higher frequency than people think.  

[gonzo1105]

It’s one thing if they’re taking to the agent. It happens more than you believe. Just like Brady and Stafford just happened to be at the same mountain range skiing. If they were directly communicating with the player I think both teams need to be docked a mid round pick. I think the Raiders should be too for the Stafford thing 

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

You...you still believe in Santa Clause, don't you?

 

@MJS is just very naive.   GM's can talk all they want to agents at any time.   And no agent is going to reveal that they were discussing some pending UFA's contract or availability whether it's in November or the days just prior to the free agency tampering window.   Kim Miale of Roc Nation is Stanley's agent.  Either Stanley is trying to sabotage Ravens rivals and going rogue on his agent figuring he doesn't need her anymore or the teams attempted to go around her.   Perhaps she and Stanley had a disagreement about him taking so much less to stay with Baltimore.   But teams OBVIOUSLY tamper with pending free agents all the time.

[Fleezoid]

I'm sure Roger Goodell will give them a good stern talking-to. 

[MJS]

22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Its not really speculation though, I mean people no longer in the league, like former GM's, have alluded or even confirmed that this does go on.  

I agree with you about how people justify it by saying everyone does it, and that also doesn't mean "all" teams or GM's do it.  But I would say it certainly does happen and probably at a higher frequency than people think.  

I think it does happen. For sure. But I think it happens less than people think. You have a few instances that get out to the press, like this, and people use that to assume that most teams are doing it all the time. That's just a leap in logic and not supported by anything.

11 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

@MJS is just very naive.   GM's can talk all they want to agents at any time.   And no agent is going to reveal that they were discussing some pending UFA's contract or availability whether it's in November or the days just prior to the free agency tampering window.   Kim Miale of Roc Nation is Stanley's agent.  Either Stanley is trying to sabotage Ravens rivals and going rogue on his agent figuring he doesn't need her anymore or the teams attempted to go around her.   Perhaps she and Stanley had a disagreement about him taking so much less to stay with Baltimore.   But teams OBVIOUSLY tamper with pending free agents all the time.

You can believe that, but there is very little evidence that it happens all the time. It is just a conspiracy theory that fans like to propagate.

[Malazan]

56 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Most teams tamper ahead of time. Many of the "deals" agreed to on Monday had been done for days or even weeks. Let's be real here. But if it costs the Chiefs something I'm all for it.

Well, Miami lost their 1st round pick and it was for less than this so I expect the Chiefs will be awarded with 16 compensatory picks in rounds 1-3 and the Commanders will lose a 2nd rounder.

Edited 4 hours ago by Malazan

[Starr Almighty]

Commanders will get punished and KC will be awarded a comp pick 

[BADOLBILZ]

16 minutes ago, MJS said:

I think it does happen. For sure. But I think it happens less than people think. You have a few instances that get out to the press, like this, and people use that to assume that most teams are doing it all the time. That's just a leap in logic and not supported by anything.

You can believe that, but there is very little evidence that it happens all the time. It is just a conspiracy theory that fans like to propagate.

 

 

I take the naive comment back.   It's common sense that you lack.😂

[Billl]

It seems highly unlikely that anyone is technically tampering. It’s a violation to discuss specific players, but I don’t think there’s any rule that says you can’t say “we’re budgeting $X to fill our LT position”.

[chris heff]

30 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:

I'm sure Roger Goodell will give them a good stern talking-to. 

Maybe even a strongly worded email.

[Steve Billieve]

42 minutes ago, MJS said:

I think it does happen. For sure. But I think it happens less than people think. You have a few instances that get out to the press, like this, and people use that to assume that most teams are doing it all the time. That's just a leap in logic and not supported by anything.

You can believe that, but there is very little evidence that it happens all the time. It is just a conspiracy theory that fans like to propagate.

 

Even if it's as common as speeding I still agree with your original point. And just like speeding it's there for good reason and there are degrees to it.

 

I think there's definitely conversations that go on that can be very close to tampering, and then there's just straight up offering a player terms.

[TBBills Fan]

23 minutes ago, chris heff said:

Maybe even a strongly worded email.

With a printed version mailed as well. 

 

Certified mail.