3rdand12 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/12/2025 at 11:27 AM, Luka said: This draft is going to make or break Beane this year. He really needs to identify an elite player at a position of need. Corner, edge, DT or wide receiver. He's been whiffing big time. Hopefully Bishop plays better this season because it looks like Beane is standing firm at safety after re-signing Hamlin this morning. Not sure if it's our scouting department or what. Great in the late rounds but can't seem to get the big one in the first, aside from Josh of course. I don't think any thing does for the Bills at this point is make or break. Pretty solid all around , and no fool. One of the top GMs. Plenty of room/reason to criticize of course, but all GMs are that. Another fine offseason. Nothing too crazy and plenty of puzzle pieces with smart for the Bills contracts. Draft is separate animal I think Luka. And Beane's team seems to improve each year Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 8 hours ago, NewEra said: I think he’s done a very good job so far this offseason. I was hoping we’d be able to snag one of the top edge rushers- as it turns out- none of them were really available (I don’t think Hendrickson would’ve been traded to Buffalo). Sweat is solid, but dude had 8.5 sacks on a stacked DL. Is he really that good? He joined his old coach in Az, so I don’t think he was so much of a possibility unless we overpaid. Considering what was available, I think we did great with Bosas deal. Sure, he could get injured and be a wash, but it would only affect us for a year. Hoecht seems like an overpay to many based on what he’s accomplished…. But he could easily outperform that contract. I think he’s going to be a favorite amongst us. LAAAAAARRRRRRY seems like a bit of an overpay, but again, 1 year. Not so bad. Most of us want a big space eater, but McD wants DTs that can move, not behemoths that can’t rush. Larry can get some pressure. I expect Beane to draft Bosas and Larry’s heir apparents.. When they leave next year, they’ll be ready to go next year- if not earlier. Palmer gets open. He can get deep. He plays on the outside. He has good hands. He’s a great kid. He’s not a burner, but that can still be added. Love the signing even if it may be an overpay at the moment. love me some Ty Johnson. 2.5M is a nice deal for what he brings to our team. Forrest looks like a diamond in the rough. Love this signing. bringing Damar back can’t hurt. Haven’t seen the money, but I don’t expect it to be much. Losing Mack hurts me a lot. Really bummed we lost him, but I figured someone would pay him more than we’d be willing to pay. Really sucks that it’s a division opponent. We’re going to miss his blocking and low key Sr skills. we need a corner- I expect us to sign Dane Jackson or Rasul and draft someone. That may be a mistake if the draftee isn’t capable of starting this season. Whomever is playing opposite Benford will be attacked- they need to be able to play. I hope we can land Samuel, but I expect him to be paid more than we can afford ill give our offseason a B+ at the moment. We were just 15M over the cap and have given out over 40M in contracts. Dane Jackson is already on the team bro! 11 hours ago, SoTier said: I'm going to be kind and call your first paragraph hyperbole. Maybe if you were the Bills owner, you would fire him, but Terry Pegula won't. I seriously doubt that any current NFL owner would do that. In 2018, Beane was a first time GM without a lot of hands-on personnel management experience. He was also scrambling to fill a roster that was seriously lacking in NFL caliber talent (except for a handful of 2nd year players drafted by McDermott in 2017) for an organization that had a reputation as being second-rate at best. Fast forward seven years, and Beane is considered one of the best GMs in the NFL having built a perennial Super Bowl contender, drafted the NFL MVP, and remade the Bills reputation into one of the best run organizations in the NFL. Terry Pegula is not firing Beane for missing on some modestly priced FAs that's assuming that said modestly priced FAs all fail. Beane didn't "put his neck out there" at all. Another TSW GM wannabe full of hyperbole. The Bills are certainly not "completely deprived of top talent outside of Allen". The Bills have one of the best OLs in the NFL. They have one of the best OLs in the NFL. James Cook is one of the most explosive RBs, a threat to score every time he carries or catches the ball. Shakir was second in the NFL in YAC. Benford is one of the top young CBs in the NFL. More importantly, collecting a few big name stars doesn't make a good team. See the perennial basket case NY Jests. FTR, Daniel Jones recently signed for $14 million, so you are talking about backup/low end starter QBs. Not many teams, including the Chiefs and Eagles, would make the playoffs with such a low end signal caller. Put a decent franchise level QB on the Bills like Darnold or Goff, and the Bills would remain a playoff contender. Why did Josh Allen win MVP? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Dane Jackson is already on the team bro! Why did Josh Allen win MVP? Because he earned it lol We literally have a bookend of top five tackles... A massive physical center... A road grading RG and a jack of all trades LG Our offensive line can keep Josh alive to play his game, and open holes in the running games Spencer Brown might become the best right tackle in the league soon lol he literally makes defensive ends his b**** It's easy for James Cook to bounce around the right tackle when Spencer Brown pummels them into Oblivion and there's not five left tackles more consistent than Dawkins over the last 6-7 years We scored more points last year than any year in team history because Josh Allen was upright Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Because he earned it lol We literally have a bookend of top five tackles... A massive physical center... A road grading RG and a jack of all trades LG Our offensive line can keep Josh alive to play his game, and open holes in the running games Spencer Brown might become the best right tackle in the league soon lol he literally makes defensive ends his b**** It's easy for James Cook to bounce around the right tackle when Spencer Brown pummels them into Oblivion Yep, the Bills have a very OL. Spencer Brown is very good and so is Dawkins. Josh Allen must’ve been throwing the ball all over the yard and putting up a lot of gaudy stats to win Ap1 and MVP, then, right? Edited March 14 by FireChans Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yep, the Bills have a very OL. Spencer Brown is very good and so is Dawkins. Josh Allen must’ve been throwing the ball all over the yard and putting up a lot of gaudy stats to win MVP, then, right? It's not just a statistical award lol If it was Josh Allen could have three or four MVPs Five straight years of 40 touchdowns when nobody in NFL history is even done four straight Lamar won the award a few seasons ago with super super pedestrian stats.. you don't need 45 passing touchdowns and 5,000 yards to win Josh won it because he's earned the award for years and it's a slap in the face to keep passing him... Half the media.. a bunch of who vote on the award also wrote us off after getting rid of diggs And picked us to finish third place lol that's the narrative We still absolutely have a top 7-8 roster in the NFL Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: It's not just a statistical award lol If it was Josh Allen could have three or four MVPs Five straight years of 40 touchdowns when nobody in NFL history is even done four straight Lamar won the award a few seasons ago with super super pedestrian stats.. you don't need 45 passing touchdowns and 5,000 yards to win Josh won it because he's earned the award for years and it's a slap in the face to keep passing him... They chose his worst statistical season he could have won it plenty of times already Why did they choose his worst statistical season? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Just now, FireChans said: Why did they choose his worst statistical season? Because the narrative preseason was that we were going to be bad... We got rid of diggs.. the media tried calling it a rebuilding year So it makes Josh Allen look better when we were good But anybody with eyes know we were going to be good and we absolutely have a top seven or eight roster in the NFL It's not like Josh is carrying the 17th place roster.. he's the MVP on the 7th best roster Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Just now, FireChans said: Why did they choose his worst statistical season? I’ll play, it’s not what you want but I’ll play anyway. I think the last QB to win an MVP with a TD to INT ratio under 3 throwing the ball was Brett Favre. They penalize the crap out that stat. But I imagine you’re saying because he had the least amount of talent. Which is also true, but somehow Beane is also a witch and top 3. It’s all so confusing to be honest. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I’ll play, it’s not what you want but I’ll play anyway. I think the last QB to win an MVP with a TD to INT ratio under 3 throwing the ball was Brett Favre. They penalize the crap out that stat. But I imagine you’re saying because he had the least amount of talent. Which is also true, but somehow Beane is also a witch and top 3. It’s all so confusing to be honest. Least amount of talent out of 32 teams? Like we have a top five running game and a top five offensive line .. a top quarterback and good tight ends Wide receiver core was nothing special but not the worst nothing like what Josh inherited as a rookie where our number one was an undrafted free agent Our roster is clearly in the top seven or eight in the NFL.. even if Lamar has a better roster that doesn't mean hours was dog crap We're talking about a team that again was within one touchdown of going to the super bowl Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Least amount of talent out of 32 teams? Like we have a top five running game and a top five offensive line .. a top quarterback and good tight ends Wide receiver core was nothing special but not the worst nothing like what Josh inherited as a rookie where our number one was an undrafted free agent Our roster is clearly in the top seven or eight in the NFL.. even if Lamar has a better roster that doesn't mean hours was dog crap We're talking about a team that again was within one touchdown of going to the super bowl Least amount of talent of the MVP contenders and your basis to say we have a top 10 roster is air. It’s certainly not on defense. Nobody knows what this team is without Josh. He is responsible for more output individually than any offensive player in NFL history. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Least amount of talent of the MVP contenders and your basis to say we have a top 10 roster is air. It’s certainly not on defense. Nobody knows what this team is without Josh. He is responsible for more output individually than any offensive player in NFL history. Football is the ultimate team game.. our record, our points against everything shows we're not a bottom roster getting carried by Josh Allen Is Josh Allen a certifiable Hall of famer and one of the best players I've ever seen? Yes Even Tom Brady couldn't win by himself... We're not a bottom roster getting carried by Josh 157 point differential and a top three point differential in the NFL the last 5 years show were consistently at or near the top At the end of the day only one team wins the super bowl and we were in the top four The notion that we're like the 20th best roster getting carried by Josh is insane.. we might not be a top three roster but we are absolutely in the top 10 for years You're literally only as good as your weakest link 1 through 52... Like this isn't a six win team that Josh Allen is propelling to 13 wins We blow out way too many teams Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 14 Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Football is the ultimate team game.. our record, our points against everything shows we're not a bottom roster getting carried by Josh Allen Is Josh Allen a certifiable Hall of famer and one of the best players I've ever seen? Yes Even Tom Brady couldn't win by himself... We're not a bottom roster getting carried by Josh 157 point differential and a top three point differential in the NFL the last 5 years show were consistently at or near the top At the end of the day only one team wins the super bowl and we were in the top four The notion that we're like the 20th best roster getting carried by Josh is insane.. we might not be a top three roster but we are absolutely in the top 10 for years You're literally only as good as your weakest link 1 through 52 Yet every year we cry about being ravaged by injuries. Hell, all it took for the tears to come out this year was one CB. Josh IS carrying this team. As Brady did. As any HOF level QB is capable of doing in the modern era. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Yet every year we cry about being ravaged by injuries. Hell, all it took for the tears to come out this year was one CB. Josh IS carrying this team. As Brady did. As any HOF level QB is capable of doing in the modern era. You could have your opinion but most of the quarterbacks in the playoffs last year could take the bills to the playoffs.. like would we be as good? No Because Josh Allen's the best player in the world.. but mahomes , Lamar, stafford , Stroud, Daniels etc all could take the bills to the playoffs in the AFC East We're not a five win team that Josh is bringing to the playoffs.. the margin of talent in the NFL is so small and Josh is sitting out way too many fourth quarters to be devoid of talent Teams go from worse to first every year in the NFL.. we are controlling the AFC East we're not devoid of talent There's not one team that gets carried to five straight division championships because they only have one guy.. you need an entire team in the NFL Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: You could have your opinion but any of the quarterbacks in the playoffs last year could take the bills to the playoffs.. like would we be as good? No Because Josh Allen's the best player in the world.. but mahomes , Lamar, burrow , Stroud, Daniels etc all could take the bills to the playoffs in the AFC East We're not a five win team that Josh is bringing to the playoffs.. the margin of talent in the NFL is so small and Josh is sitting out way too many fourth quarters to be devoid of talent Teams go from worse to first every year in the NFL.. we are controlling the AFC East we're not devoid of talent If you have the best QB in the world vs the absolute garbage that has played QB in the AFC East for years. I mean what exactly do you expect to happen? How bad would our coaching and roster have to be to not completely run this division in the same way the Patriots did for two decades. Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You could have your opinion but most of the quarterbacks in the playoffs last year could take the bills to the playoffs.. like would we be as good? No Because Josh Allen's the best player in the world.. but mahomes , Lamar, stafford , Stroud, Daniels etc all could take the bills to the playoffs in the AFC East We're not a five win team that Josh is bringing to the playoffs.. the margin of talent in the NFL is so small and Josh is sitting out way too many fourth quarters to be devoid of talent Teams go from worse to first every year in the NFL.. we are controlling the AFC East we're not devoid of talent Sorry but if the Bills and Pats trade QB, the Pats are winning the divison every year and the Bills are picking top 5 lol. 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Sorry but if the Bills and Pats trade QB, the Pats are winning the divison every year and the Bills are picking top 5 lol. That's like saying the bills would win seven super bowls if we had Tom Brady lol News flash we wouldn't I'm pretty sure the Patriots are picking top five right now... And the Bills pick top five once in the last 25 years and we had a lot of bad quarterbacks We had tons of trash guys behind center and we picked in the top five once during the drought ... Once And we have a much better offensive line and defensive consistency over 7 years compared to 2000 to 2016 We weren't even picking top three in top five consistently in those days Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That's like saying the bills would win seven super bowls if we had Tom Brady lol News flash we wouldn't I'm pretty sure the Patriots are picking top five right now... And the Bills pick top five once in the last 25 years and we had a lot of bad quarterbacks We had tons of trash guys behind center and we picked them the top five once during the drought Yeah its not like Tom Brady went to a whole new team out of the blue and immediately won a Superbowl lol. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah its not like Tom Brady went to a whole new team out of the blue and immediately won a Superbowl lol. You mean in free agency where he got to choose a completely stacked roster? Yeah you act like the Tampa Bay buccaneers team that held the Chiefs to 3 fgs somehow only won because Tom Brady No Tom Brady was the missing piece an absolute stacked roster and he was a fully developed Hall of Fame quarterback 22-year-old Tom Brady is doing nothing for the Buffalo Bills franchise Edited March 14 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Check in after the SB…. If this FA class and upcoming draft picks culminate in a SB win then we can party in the streets and build statues…. Until then it’s wait and see. Quote
FireChans Posted March 14 Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: You mean in free agency where he got to choose a completely stacked roster? Yeah you act like the Tampa Bay buccaneers team that held the Chiefs to 3 fgs somehow only won because Tom Brady No Tom Brady was the missing piece an absolute stacked roster and he was a fully developed Hall of Fame quarterback 22-year-old Tom Brady is doing nothing for the Buffalo Bills franchise lmao Just a coincidence that a Bucs team that had gone 5-11, 5-11 and 7-9 the three years prior ended up with 11 wins, 3 playoff wins, and a Superbowl trophy after signing the best QB of all time. You don't even believe the stuff you argue. One day its "McD is doing his best getting production out of late rounders but Beane needs to do better." The next day, it's "this is a top 7 roster without Josh." Comical honestly. New England imploded into garbage immediately after Brady left. The Bucs win the Superbowl and make the playoffs for the first time since 2007 after signing Brady and its a "stacked team" lol. Quote
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