Hamlin back on one-year deal

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

he's not as bad as people say but we could certainly get better at the position. He does not make mistakes. He is a micah Hyde light.

 

I like the guy but not the football player...even calling him Micah Hyde Light is an insult to Micah Hyde 

Edited 6 hours ago by HomeskillitMoorman

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

20 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Yeah no argument with any of that.

 

I'm confident in Bishop improving, but time will tell how much.  We've had some players thrive after year 1 and some squander/never reach potential.

 

Point being, I really was hoping for a proven/impactful safety.

 

Rapp is our best safety now, that's not good enough IMO.  If Bishop take a huge leap, the perspective changes.

 

This is similar to MLB with Bernard a cpl years ago.  Need Bishop to rise up and be a playmaker.

 

We have given out next to nothing for our safety room, draft capital and cap.  Maybe McD truly thinks he can get by with that, but it's a dramatic difference vs our Poyer/Hyde combo.  I thought they'd at least try and find another FA to bring in.

 

I think a 2nd rounder is a somewhat significant investment.  Rapp and Hamlin though are kinda bargain basement depth type contracts.  

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I'm fine with it. He knows the system. He's a starting NFL safety.

 

I think we badly need an upgrade but I believe those can be found late 1st to 2nd rounds

[BananaB]

Lmao! He’s terrible. But at least he know the playbook. 

[Jauronimo]

16 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

meh.. 

on the Plus side, he knows the Defense very well so he’s rarely out of position. On the negative side, he can’t tackle my mother and she’s been dead for nearly 3 years..🤷‍♂️

I thought he tackled decently well but hes a mediocre athlete so he takes conservative angles (or he gets toasted) or he waits for the ball carrier to run into him and then trips them up.  

[finn]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I’d imagine it’s backup money, but I love him as the third safety. Who knows, maybe he earns another starting job.

How about a fourth safety? I like him on the roster in case of an emergency, but not the first one in when (not if) Rapp injures himself or Bishop. Having him back there is like a huge marquee blinking "Throw! Throw! Throw!"

[tigerthelion]

Hope he never sees the field other than an emergency situation.  He is not a good starter at all,  but at least knows tha system and can fill in for short periods.  Would have preferred to move on from him, honestly, but here we are.  If Bishop can't clearly keep him off the field, that is a terrible sign.  A second round safety should be able to beat put Hamlin easily.  If Bishop doesn't improve, and no clear upgrades are had, it will be deja vu next year with coverage. 

[Chandler#81]

42 minutes ago, Logic said:

I truly believe that Damar's cardiac arrest incident forever clouded many people's ability to evaluate his on-field play in a clear-headed way. 

No, I don't believe Damar Hamlin is a high level NFL starter. Yes, I DO believe that he constitutes good depth, provides a baseline level of acceptable play when he's on the field, and is a great fit in the locker room and the community. 

Every team in the NFL rosters backups that aren't high level starters but can contribute and play useful football. Damar Hamlin is one of those, but to hear some people tell it, he belongs nowhere near an NFL field. 

Do I want him penciled in as starter? Nope. Do I think he can get you out of a three-week stretch with minimal negative fallout if your starer goes down? Yep, absolutely.

I think the emotionality, the politics, the super weird "he's a Make-a-Wish player" argument...all of it...shrouds many people's opinions in emotionality that they can't shake off, and doesn't allow them to respond to or evaluate Damar THE PLAYER in a reasonable way.

I will die on this hill.

Welp, dying on a hill is better than dying in a ravine. The only thing I think is clouded is that he’s a good safety.

[BananaB]

Why can’t we just let bad players walk

[SydneyBillsFan]

The hate for this guy is disturbing 

 

He is a good quality backup who lacks in top speed but can reliably fill in for an inured or suspended player when required - nothing more, nothing less.

[Logic]

3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Welp, dying on a hill is better than dying in a ravine. The only thing I think is clouded is that he’s a good safety.

GOOD safety? Not really, no.

Capable depth and special teams player whose play shows that he likely deserves to be on an NFL roster? In my opinion, yes.

It's all about expectations, I guess.

It's just weird to me that Hamlin gets so much more attention and hate than, say, Cam Lewis. Cam Lewis is ALSO not a "good" or starting level safety in this league, but I don't hear people bagging on him all the time the way they bag on Hamlin. And I don't think Lewis is appreciably better than Hamlin (nor did the coaching staff last year, since Hamlin started at safety and not Lewis).

So it brings me back to the conclusion that his whole medical situation and the fallout thereafter negatively impact many people's ability to view Hamlin in a detached and rational way.

Edited 6 hours ago by Logic

[MrEpsYtown]

These guys need to give up those prime single-digit numbers...Bass, Hamlin, Elam, Buchele....

[May Day 10]

Cant have this guy starting again.  Physically unable to play in the NFL

[billsfan89]

8 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Why can’t we just let bad players walk

 

They let players walk all the time. Last year with Gabe, Tremaine was allowed to walk, I could go on but this team let's players walk all the time. 

[Jerome007]

Sometimes I feel people simply can't change their predetermined narrative. I too cringed painfully when we realized he'd be the starter last year. But he has grown to be quite decent. He made some bad plays, some pretty good ones, and overall, was at least average. Much better than anticipated, and not the disaster some of you guys make him to be. He's no Elam!

 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Jerome007

[Chandler#81]

50 minutes ago, Logic said:

GOOD safety? Not really, no.

Capable depth and special teams player whose play shows that he likely deserves to be on an NFL roster? In my opinion, yes.

It's all about expectations, I guess.

It's just weird to me that Hamlin gets so much more attention and hate than, say, Cam Lewis. Cam Lewis is ALSO not a "good" or starting level safety in this league, but I don't hear people bagging on him all the time the way they bag on Hamlin. And I don't think Lewis is appreciably better than Hamlin (nor did the coaching staff last year, since Hamlin started at safety and not Lewis).

So it brings me back to the conclusion that his whole medical situation and the fallout thereafter negatively impact many people's ability to view Hamlin in a detached and rational way.

I don’t. He’s simply not good enough to be on an NFL roster. USFL? Canada? Europe? Sure. NFL? He doesn’t measure up. 

43 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

They let players walk all the time. Last year with Gabe, Tremaine was allowed to walk, I could go on but this team let's players walk all the time. 

These guys were good and left for greener pastures. Ain’t no team vying for Hamlin’s services.

Edited 5 hours ago by Chandler#81

[Jerome007]

27 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Huge offseason for Bishop.  It will be super interesting to see how he looks once camp gets rolling.

Bishop was ready physically. He was missing a lot of  the nuances and how to be in the right position, etc. So, in essence, he has to shore up his "football IQ". IDK he can do that in the offseason. He seemed to have gotten better by the end of the season. 

[jahnyc]

Kind of surprised that we haven't upgraded the secondary, and the safety position specifically, at this point of free agency.  I know it is early, but our secondary was bad last season and worse now since we are down a starting level CB opposite Benford.  Still have a need at DT and this is supposedly a strong draft at DT, so it would be disappointing if we need to use our first round pick on a CB who may or may not be ready to start from day one.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I’m not a fan of him as a player but seems like a great human who knows the play book. At the very least he’s depth but if he’s starting again it doesn’t bode well for Bishop imo.

[Herc11]

Ugh this was our chance to let him go without the harshness of cutting him. Dude is too slow for the position.