Royale with Cheese Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: yeah I dunno. I don't see it. But hope I am wrong! He flashed a couple of times, but not much more than that so far! I'm with you on Carter. I'm not writing him off but after his injury, he was getting pushed around like he was a lightweight. That's why he was a healthy scratch the remaining of the year. 2 Quote
khlax3 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I think this greatly increases the odds of a WR high in the draft. Based on their contracts it seems like we have 6 locks for the dline groot bosa hoecht oliver ogunjobi jones likely not ready to give up on yet Solomon carter epenesa that leave room for 1 dlineman to make the roster. Now if 2 guys are there early they love they could certainly take them but I see a likely pick at 1T and then the other 2 early picks CB and WR 2 1 1 Quote
RichRiderBills Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago My first thought is this is a better version of Philips. He can play both spots and will be critical depth and rotational player. 3 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, wppete said: If he's a run stopper then I'm all aboard there. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, BillsFan130 said: Asked my buddy who's a diehard steeler fan and he said: -Overall does his job -Very streaky player -Will have a great game but then will disappear for a while -Most of the times you don't notice him. don't shoot the messenger, just sharing this from a Steelers fan perspective That’s usually what happens with guys who stop the run unless he’s getting TFLs or Sacks Dlineman don’t get a lot of clout. I wonder if the idea is to work Carter some at 1T. Before the injury Carter looked solid stacking and shedding guys in the run game. 2 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: A little confused by this one. Thought he was a 3 tech. That would put him at the same position as Oliver and Carter. Seems like a lot of money to be a 3rd defensive tackle. Says a lot about Carter in my opinion. By all accounts he’s not trending up 1 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I like the highlights that are showing his one sack a year lol. The player and cost is fine. It’s interesting that they are bringing him in. He’s played in both a 4-3 and a 3-4. Hoecht has also done both and the same for Bosa. Are we becoming a multiple defense? He had his best sack numbers in a 4-3 as a 3 tech. I wonder if the idea is to make Carter both a 3 and a 1 as the last DL on the roster. Lotta questions on fit for this one but they obviously have a plan I don't expect us to be a hybrid defense at all, but we're grabbing versatile players/can play multiple spots along the front. Not unlike most years, ie: Smoot LY, just better guys now IMO. Watched Larry alot with Steelers, he can generate pressure up the middle alot more consistently than what we got from Carter/Phillips/Johnson/Jefferson/etc last year. I saw very little "push" from Carter LY, in pass rush. He played solid against the run prior to injury though. He's a rotational piece, bounce between a 1 and 3 tech. We need to grab a DT early in draft, and be curious if we cut Daquon who looked like toast LY. 1 Quote
DJB Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Another guy that doesn’t count against the comp formula. Beane loves doing this ! Lol Also love that we are getting depth at the position Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m happy with this. Versatile- can play some 3 and 1. like many have said- not the space eater we’ve been thinking about, but this draft has a fair share of them. I’d expect one to be drafted I read he played over the A gap for his first four seasons with Cleveland before switching to the 3 technique in Pittsburgh so maybe he has versatility and can play some 1 technique along with our draft pick (e.g., Grant, Tyliek Williams, Alfred Collins, Omar Norman-Lott, Jordan Phillips (the new one!), CJ West, Stackhouse, Caldwell, etc). 1 Quote
Green Lightning Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Alright i'll go back and edit. I triggered some people. So it was a massive post blunder? Edited 8 hours ago by Green Lightning Quote
SoTier Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Just the fact that when he was healthy he was a healthy scratch behind street free agents is a major red flag for me. Carter was a rookie DT taken at the end of the third round. That's the kind of player who takes 2 or 3 years to develop into his best self because he was chosen for his potential. DT is a tough position because it not only requires young players to learn/improve their techniques but also their opponents. 5 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: Asked my buddy who's a diehard steeler fan and he said: -Overall does his job -Very streaky player -Will have a great game but then will disappear for a while -Most of the times you don't notice him. don't shoot the messenger, just sharing this from a Steelers fan perspective Easy to disappear when you are taking on multiple blockers. Pressure up the middle would be great if he helps us get it. for what it’s worth, my Steeler fan friend said “great get with Ogunjobi! He can still play at a high level. Was a cost savings cut unfortunately”. 2 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said: I don't expect us to be a hybrid defense at all, but we're grabbing versatile players/can play multiple spots along the front. Not unlike most years, ie: Smoot LY, just better guys now IMO. Watched Larry alot with Steelers, he can generate pressure up the middle alot more consistently than what we got from Carter/Phillips/Johnson/Jefferson/etc last year. I saw very little "push" from Carter LY, in pass rush. He played solid against the run prior to injury though. He's a rotational piece, bounce between a 1 and 3 tech. We need to grab a DT early in draft, and be curious if we cut Daquon who looked like toast LY. Yea I agree this doesn’t change anything draft wise. It’s funny right here you quoted I said the same thing about Carter going to the 1T instead of the 3 for the same reasons. I think Beane saw the dominance of Philly and is like okay we’re just going to go with that model 2 Quote
Sweats Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: I like the highlights that are showing his one sack a year lol. The player and cost is fine. It’s interesting that they are bringing him in. He’s played in both a 4-3 and a 3-4. Hoecht has also done both and the same for Bosa. Are we becoming a multiple defense? He had his best sack numbers in a 4-3 as a 3 tech. I wonder if the idea is to make Carter both a 3 and a 1 as the last DL on the roster. Lotta questions on fit for this one but they obviously have a plan I have a feeling our D will be leaning towards even more of a hybrid. Quote
RiotAct Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Ogunjobi, all the way from LAKE OKEECHOBEE! Beane doing work Quote
BearNorth Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: It’s interesting that they are bringing him in. He’s played in both a 4-3 and a 3-4. Hoecht has also done both and the same for Bosa. Are we becoming a multiple defense? I think towards the end of last season, McD, who has always been a zone guy, figured he had to mix it up a bit with all the nasty wideouts in the AFC. He certainly was mixing his looks up vs the Ravens and the Chiefs. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I really wish this team would think in terms of tiny LB protection and put 2 Days on the field that are 340lbs. I don’t need those guys to do anything other than occupy blocks. Il let my exterior guys and 2nd level guys make the plays. Just don’t be moved 1 Quote
NewEra Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Not even a full year 🤣 and he looked really good at times Yeah- similar to Keon. Looked good pre-injury and then lost afterwards. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, NewEra said: I can’t see them not drafting one. We are drafting a DT,DE and CB. The Dline guys will take over next year for the two guys we just signed. 1 2 Quote
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