GASabresIUFan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I was looking at his and DaQuan's pro-football-reference.com profiles and they seem statistically similar players. On paper it looks to me like Ogunjobi has the edge. He has more tackles and looks like a better interior pass rusher. It will be an interesting camp battle, but if I had to guess Ogunjobi will win the job. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Honestly everything the Bills have done since they moved off Star should tell you fans might want a big tub of goo 350lbs space eater but the organisation doesn't. It wants guys even at 1T who can make plays in the backfield. Agree with this 100%. I do think Grant would be the exception to this just because his movement skills at 330-340 pounds gives you a bit of both but year their going to take a 1T who plays in the 305-315 range more so than the 330 range. 2 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I'm not sure they want him to play the 1 tech starter. I'm guessing he rotates with Oliver and maybe plays with him on 3rd and long or something like that. But I'd be shocked if a 305 lb guy is the full-time 1 tech. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said: I'm not sure they want him to play the 1 tech starter. I'm guessing he rotates with Oliver and maybe plays with him on 3rd and long or something like that. But I'd be shocked if a 305 lb guy is the full-time 1 tech. Maybe the plan is to have him put in 10-15lbs this off-season. 1 Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 11 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: I was looking at his and DaQuan's pro-football-reference.com profiles and they seem statistically similar players. On paper it looks to me like Ogunjobi has the edge. He has more tackles and looks like a better interior pass rusher. It will be an interesting camp battle, but if I had to guess Ogunjobi will win the job. I don’t think it really matters who wins the job with the heavy rotations they do on the DL and I doubt Jones gets released there’s pretty much no savings and just adds another hole in the rotation. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Oliver, Ogunjobi, Jones, Carter Let's add 2 more to upgrade here and release DaQuan Grant and Veteran UFA / Trade Quote
NI Bills Fan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Maybe the plan is to have him put in 10-15lbs this off-season. They could put him on the Asenepe plan. (Epenesa backwards!) 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, NI Bills Fan said: They could put him on the Asenepe plan. (Epenesa backwards!) Or just put him on my diet. I have no issues gaining 15lbs almost on command these days. 3 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 4 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: I'm not sure they want him to play the 1 tech starter. I'm guessing he rotates with Oliver and maybe plays with him on 3rd and long or something like that. But I'd be shocked if a 305 lb guy is the full-time 1 tech. Harrison Phillips played 1 tech right around the same size Ogunjobi is Quote
No_Matter_What Posted Thursday at 04:41 PM Posted Thursday at 04:41 PM (edited) Contract details in: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi So in fact this is §6.7M contract with additional §0.6M playing time incentives and up to §1.2M sack incentives. §4.1M cap hit this year and §2.6M dead money next year. And my understanding is that his salary guarantee is voided by PED suspension (sportrac says so) and also that his 2025 cap hit will be lowered due to suspension. I like that there are sack incentives in the contract. It should be used more often in NFL contracts imo. Edited Thursday at 04:44 PM by No_Matter_What 3 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM 4 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Contract details in: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi So in fact this is §6.7M contract with additional §0.6M playing time incentives and up to §1.2M sack incentives. §4.1M cap hit this year and §2.6M dead money next year. And my understanding is that his salary guarantee is voided by PED suspension (sportrac says so) and also that his 2025 cap hit will be lowered due to suspension. Yes, but I'm not sure when the "savings" show up. I'm assuming the savings come when he goes on suspension at the start of the year. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM 18 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Contract details in: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi So in fact this is §6.7M contract with additional §0.6M playing time incentives and up to §1.2M sack incentives. §4.1M cap hit this year and §2.6M dead money next year. And my understanding is that his salary guarantee is voided by PED suspension (sportrac says so) and also that his 2025 cap hit will be lowered due to suspension. I like that there are sack incentives in the contract. It should be used more often in NFL contracts imo. I didn't see how many sacks he needs or what the playtime % is, but missing 6 games and playing in the rotation will likely keep him from hitting those. At $4.1M it's not a bad deal even with missing the first 6 games IMO. Quote
HappyDays Posted Thursday at 05:06 PM Posted Thursday at 05:06 PM 21 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Contract details in: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/21807/larry-ogunjobi So in fact this is §6.7M contract with additional §0.6M playing time incentives and up to §1.2M sack incentives. §4.1M cap hit this year and §2.6M dead money next year. And my understanding is that his salary guarantee is voided by PED suspension (sportrac says so) and also that his 2025 cap hit will be lowered due to suspension. I like that there are sack incentives in the contract. It should be used more often in NFL contracts imo. Our dead cap for 2026 is really piling up. According to Spotrac it's already at $32.2M and that's before accounting for any earned incentives that hit the cap next year. I don't mind Beane kicking the can as far down the road as possible during Allen's career but I wish he was doing it with more impactful players. Quote
ddaryl Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM Posted Thursday at 05:13 PM 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Our dead cap for 2026 is really piling up. According to Spotrac it's already at $32.2M and that's before accounting for any earned incentives that hit the cap next year. I don't mind Beane kicking the can as far down the road as possible during Allen's career but I wish he was doing it with more impactful players. I can't find any data on 2026 Dead Cap, I looked on Sportstrac but they had nothing listed at all Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Thursday at 05:15 PM Posted Thursday at 05:15 PM 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Our dead cap for 2026 is really piling up. According to Spotrac it's already at $32.2M and that's before accounting for any earned incentives that hit the cap next year. I don't mind Beane kicking the can as far down the road as possible during Allen's career but I wish he was doing it with more impactful players. Half of that goes away if Bosa, McGovern and Ogunjobi are re-signed. The majority ($11M) of the remainder is Milano. 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I can't find any data on 2026 Dead Cap, I looked on Sportstrac but they had nothing listed at all You have to add up Milano and all the "red" players dead cap. It's accurate. Quote
ddaryl Posted Thursday at 05:18 PM Posted Thursday at 05:18 PM 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: You have to add up Milano and all the "red" players dead cap. It's accurate. Was hoping to find a nice chart already showing where it is all coming from. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM Posted Thursday at 05:22 PM Just now, ddaryl said: Was hoping to find a nice chart already showing where it is all coming from. They will start soon; I believe after June 1st. But for all the players like Bosa, technically they are on the team until the start of next year, then the money goes to dead cap. It's all part of the bookkeeping of the NFL. Quote
No_Matter_What Posted Thursday at 05:46 PM Posted Thursday at 05:46 PM 24 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Was hoping to find a nice chart already showing where it is all coming from. It is a nice chart https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total Have a look. Just look at orange players + Milano. Or you know what, I'll do it for you Milano - § 11,071,000 Bosa - § 7,200,000 McGovern - 4,805,000 D. Jones - 3,724,000 Epenesa - 2,861,000 Ogunjobi - 2,570,052 45 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I didn't see how many sacks he needs or what the playtime % is, but missing 6 games and playing in the rotation will likely keep him from hitting those. At $4.1M it's not a bad deal even with missing the first 6 games IMO. Playing Time Incentives (non-cumulative) 55%: $300,000 65%: $630,000 Sack Incentives (non-cumulative) 2: $150,000 4: $300,000 6: $600,000 8: $1.2M Like you said, suspension prevents him from hitting most sack incentives for sure. Playing time is interesting. If it is counted from all games, he is already doomed lol. 2 Quote
ddaryl Posted Thursday at 05:54 PM Posted Thursday at 05:54 PM (edited) 9 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: It is a nice chart https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/overview/_/year/2026/sort/cap_total Have a look. Just look at orange players + Milano. Or you know what, I'll do it for you Milano - § 11,071,000 Bosa - § 7,200,000 McGovern - 4,805,000 D. Jones - 3,724,000 Epenesa - 2,861,000 Ogunjobi - 2,570,052 Well thanks for that. I was looking for somethign more like what they show at the bottom on 2025 in regards to dead cap, so I didn't look for orange numbers Edited Thursday at 05:55 PM by ddaryl Quote
HappyDays Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM Posted Thursday at 06:02 PM 44 minutes ago, ddaryl said: I can't find any data on 2026 Dead Cap, I looked on Sportstrac but they had nothing listed at all If you go to our 2026 salary table on Spotrac all of next year's cap hits are listed. The void ones are highlighted in a different color so I just added them up. It's a little over $32M. 43 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Half of that goes away if Bosa, McGovern and Ogunjobi are re-signed. The majority ($11M) of the remainder is Milano. McGovern I expect to be extended, the others I don't. And I'm thinking we'll cut Samuel next offseason so his dead cap hit of $3.45M will get added on. Altogether it is definitely going to be over $30M we will be paying players not on the roster. Beane needs to nail this upcoming draft. Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.