808 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Are we sure that thats the type of DT he wants and has nothing to do with what mcdermott wants or how he plays them? Truth is probably its a little bit of both. 1 Quote
Snappysnackcakes Posted March 15 Posted March 15 59 minutes ago, uticaclub said: You are selecting players who struggle to complete a season and fail to make the Pro Bowl as examples of why Beane is a great general manager. While it's great to support the team, Beane has been gradually performing worse in all aspects of his job. When you defend him, it's natural for others to challenge your viewpoint. So now we have to factor in future injuries and if you don’t know that the modern ProBowl is a joke, I just don’t know what to say. Come on bruh, BB ain’t perfect at all, but he’s a good GM and perfect for our situation. Read “The GM” by Ernie Accosri, Beane is old school and I’m happy he is. I’m serious about the pu$$y thing. Try it out. It will be a game changer for you. Quote
uticaclub Posted March 15 Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said: So now we have to factor in future injuries and if you don’t know that the modern ProBowl is a joke, I just don’t know what to say. Come on bruh, BB ain’t perfect at all, but he’s a good GM and perfect for our situation. Read “The GM” by Ernie Accosri, Beane is old school and I’m happy he is. I’m serious about the pu$$y thing. Try it out. It will be a game changer for you. Benford has missed the season finale for three years in a row; that's a trend. The Pro Bowl is a joke because everyone makes it.. You’re on this board too, maybe the only virgin is the one you see in the mirror. If you think Beane has carried his weight the last 4 years, I don't know what to tell you. 3 1 1 Quote
BananaB Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season. Maybe add Milano to that list but dude is made of glass Edited March 15 by BananaB 2 1 2 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BananaB said: Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season. Come on dude. I get the frustration on not winning the Superbowl but come on Edited March 15 by Kelly to Allen 1 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said: Come on dude. I get the frustration on not winning the Superbowl but come on Some folks think Allen, Shakir, Rousseau, Oliver, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, Bernard, Benford, and Cook are all trash. A few of them even think that signing some of these guys to below market deals is worse. Such is the case with the modern mind twisted by Madden on easy franchise mode. 🤷♂️ Edited March 15 by Buffalo Junction 3 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted March 15 Posted March 15 10 hours ago, In Summary said: I hope you're right. Beane wants his 1-tech to be a 1-gap guy that contributes to the pass rush. He doesn't seem like he'd be happy with a guy who primarily kept Ed free and our small LB's clean with some contribution to collapsing the pocket with straight bull rush. I hope I don't hear Beane on draft day "we took (name) thinking he could help in the pass rush. He'll have to work on his strength because he's a little undersized for a 1-tech and has trouble tying up more than one guy, but we see him in that 1-tech spot." You know that's exactly what he will say in a future presser. 9 hours ago, BananaB said: Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season. Maybe add Milano to that list but dude is made of glass Milano was also Whaleys last draft 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Posted March 15 9 hours ago, BananaB said: Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season. Maybe add Milano to that list but dude is made of glass Yep, Spencer Brown doesn’t have an impact. You don’t need a good offensive line. The entire offensive line was terrible last year and Allen never had time to throw. James Cook. What did he do last year or ever? Khalil Shakir. I can’t name one thing he did that was impactful. Christian Benford, not impactful in any way. Taron Johnson? How did he make an All Pro team when he has never made an impact. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 15 Posted March 15 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Yep, Spencer Brown doesn’t have an impact. You don’t need a good offensive line. The entire offensive line was terrible last year and Allen never had time to throw. James Cook. What did he do last year or ever? Khalil Shakir. I can’t name one thing he did that was impactful. Christian Benford, not impactful in any way. Taron Johnson? How did he make an All Pro team when he has never made an impact. 5 players in 7-8 years kinda makes the point lmao 1 1 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 hard to criticize the GM win conditions. GM gets WC / Division Round. CHECK 4+ HC gets/win Conference. nope Quote
HerdMenatlity1 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 9 hours ago, BananaB said: Said it a few days ago and I’ll say it again. Beane is the most overrated person in this organization. Dawkins and Tre were part of Whaley’s last draft. Hyde and Poyer were also Whaleys last free agency. The only real impact player Beane brought to this team is Allen. Luckily for him Josh has been carrying this team on his back since his third season. Maybe add Milano to that list but dude is made of glass Were you part of the “Shanahan and Lynch are better “ group here? Just curious. Quote
SoTier Posted March 15 Posted March 15 20 hours ago, Mikie2times said: My ignorance? You fan boys are calling out players who never made a pro bowl and were drafted or acquired years ago. I mean look at snappy, he's going into the Edmunds bucket. You called out Connor McGovern. I'm the ignorant one. No help for you. Do you even know who Connor McGovern is? I mean, the Connor McGovern the Bills signed as an UFA from Dallas in 2023 is definitely an impact player. The other Connor McGovern is a well-traveled JAG center for Broncos, Jests, Saints, and the Jests again. Adding McGovern as a guard to the Bills OL in 2023, significantly improved that unit. Moving McGovern to C in 2024 to replace Mitch Morse helped make the Bills OL one of the best units in the NFL. What team allowed the fewest QB sacks in 2024? Oh, yeah, that talentless Bills OL allowed only 14 QB sacks. Moreover, the Bills running game in 2024 was #9 in rushing yards, #12 in yards per carry, and #1 in rushing TDs. Dawkins, Brown, and McGovern are all impact players. That you ignore the importance of the Bills OL to the team's success demonstrates your ignorance. 18 hours ago, uticaclub said: So no one in 4 years? *White, Dawkins & Milano weren't drafted by Beane The last time I looked, 2023 was only 2 years ago. Connor McGovern is most definitely an impact player. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Posted March 15 30 minutes ago, FireChans said: 5 players in 7-8 years kinda makes the point lmao Those are the upper level impact players but we have had good players Do you know what happens if you don’t have a good team even though you have an elite QB and a few other high level players? Last years Bengals. Burrow, Hendrickson, Higgins and Chase….no playoffs. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Those are the upper level impact players but we have had good players Do you know what happens if you don’t have a good team even though you have an elite QB and a few other high level players? Last years Bengals. Burrow, Hendrickson, Higgins and Chase….no playoffs. Or your QB wins MVP because he dragged a mediocre roster to 13 wins. Edited March 15 by FireChans 1 1 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted March 15 Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Those are the upper level impact players but we have had good players Do you know what happens if you don’t have a good team even though you have an elite QB and a few other high level players? Last years Bengals. Burrow, Hendrickson, Higgins and Chase….no playoffs. Cinci went 3-3 in their tougher division while Buffalo went 5-1, reverse the division records and they are both 11 win teams. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Or your QB wins MVP because he dragged a mediocre roster to 13 wins. Did Burrow not have an MVP type of year last year? Quote
oldmanfan Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Cinci went 3-3 in their tougher division while Buffalo went 5-1, reverse the division records and they are both 11 win teams. And what possible relevance does this have? This is just “if ifs and buts were candy and nuts” crap. We played our schedule and kicked ass. That’s how the league works. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did Burrow not have an MVP type of year last year? He didn’t win 13 games so no. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Cinci went 3-3 in their tougher division while Buffalo went 5-1, reverse the division records and they are both 11 win teams. Do you honestly think the Bills don’t make the playoffs if they were in the AFC North? Quote
uticaclub Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you honestly think the Bills don’t make the playoffs if they were in the AFC North? Cinci making the playoffs in the AFC East is question. They would have been division champs. Bills are making the playoffs as long as Allen is healthy Edited March 15 by uticaclub Quote
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