Beane is being Beane

[Beck Water]

On 3/12/2025 at 7:54 AM, oldmanfan said:

Brandon has a history of plugging holes in free agency so he doesn’t have obvious gaps going into the draft.  We needed a pass rusher, he gets Bosa.  A bigger outside WR?  Palmer.  Gets Hoechst to bolster the D line.  
 

I expect we’ll see a CB added in the next couple days, maybe bring back Douglas.  I expect a big DT to be added.  And that will probably be it.  Some are thinking safety but I think they’re good with Rapp and Bishop as starters.  I also think they redo Benford but maybe not Cook yet.

 

So going into the draft Brandon won’t feel forced into focusing on a specific position.  I do think he’ll be looking at the big DTs; might just be bias on my part because I always want them to draft a big pile of goo to anchor the D line.  I could see him moving up for a guy like Grant in round 1.  

 

I think we have a bigger need at DT than Hoechst will fill.  [Edit: just saw we signed Ogunjobi, that's a big step in the right direction]

 

The Bills did re-sign Hamlin.   Just a 1 year deal, but to me that says they're not all-in on Bishop as a starter yet.

 

I think the Bills and Benford/Cook are far apart on salary.  I think Beane will wait until after the draft on that.

 

CB is a huge hole to me with Douglas a FA.

Edited March 13 by Beck Water

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

The question is…..do we trade up for a top CB? I’m thinking maybe we should. 

 

I wouldn't trade up too high for a CB because good ones can be found in the 20s (Tre White was #27 IIRC), but if the Bills really like a DE or DT, they should go get him, even moving up into the top half of the first round if necessary.

[Rigotz]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:54 AM, oldmanfan said:

Brandon has a history of plugging holes in free agency so he doesn’t have obvious gaps going into the draft.  We needed a pass rusher, he gets Bosa.  A bigger outside WR?  Palmer.  Gets Hoechst to bolster the D line.  
 

I expect we’ll see a CB added in the next couple days, maybe bring back Douglas.  I expect a big DT to be added.  And that will probably be it.  Some are thinking safety but I think they’re good with Rapp and Bishop as starters.  I also think they redo Benford but maybe not Cook yet.

 

So going into the draft Brandon won’t feel forced into focusing on a specific position.  I do think he’ll be looking at the big DTs; might just be bias on my part because I always want them to draft a big pile of goo to anchor the D line.  I could see him moving up for a guy like Grant in round 1.  

 

Agreed, with one caveat. I don't think he pays big money for a 1-tech.

 

We have DaQuan and Ogunjobi (kind of) as valuable depth. There isn't a glaring need.

 

However, it's clearly our biggest long term need alongside Defensive End. 

 

I think Beane would be comfortable going into the draft with long term needs on the D-Line in a deep D-Line class and a ton of ammo.

[Snappysnackcakes]

1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

That works for keeping the Bills a double digit win team. The only thing it doesn't do is get those playmakers you need to win a Super Bowl 

Homegrown talent is the best talent. Don’t be a hater. 

[nosejob]

13 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

Agreed, with one caveat. I don't think he pays big money for a 1-tech.

 

We have DaQuan and Ogunjobi (kind of) as valuable depth. There isn't a glaring need.

 

However, it's clearly our biggest long term need alongside Defensive End. 

 

I think Beane would be comfortable going into the draft with long term needs on the D-Line in a deep D-Line class and a ton of ammo.

I'd rather not watch DQ for another year. He's done.

[Jrb1979]

15 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Homegrown talent is the best talent. Don’t be a hater. 

I agree it is. I'm not a hater, just want to see more elite playmakers on this team. 

[Governor]

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I wouldn't trade up too high for a CB because good ones can be found in the 20s (Tre White was #27 IIRC), but if the Bills really like a DE or DT, they should go get him, even moving up into the top half of the first round if necessary.

I don’t think they’ll move up far for a DT, just a gut feeling.

[st pete gogolak]

Not sure what Beane is up to in FA.  That’s based on the assumption that the strength of the upcoming draft is DE and DT.  
 

I get the Palmer signing. We needed a boundary WR and Palmer is an intriguing option (great analytics vs. meh production).  
 

I like the Forest signing.  Again, intriguing prospect.  Bosa, iI understand in the context of risk - reward.  
 

What I’m surprised at is three relatively big money signings along the DL. I’m surprised we didn’t target  a CB in FA and rely on the draft to bolster the DL.

[Billsfed1]

Beane is killing it.  Shakin, bakin n makin the Bills a Super Bowl team methinks.

As fond as I am of Josh, BillsMafia, the Pegulas and Coach, Beane has his place.  He’s doing us just fine.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

On 3/12/2025 at 10:31 AM, Lost said:

if Beane happens to draft a receiver with one of his first 2 picks. What does that mean for Josh Palmer, Curtis Samuel or Keon?  If they take a DT rd 1 then suddenly 8 million for Ogunjobi as a depth piece feels like an overpay.  

Not at all. If they draft a WR high, it's a strong 5th receiver (including behind Shakir as any of the others could go to the slot if needed). That's what good teams do, they build depth to overcome the inevitable injuries that happen. Same with DT. So what if Carter becomes a healthy scratch, or they decide to cut Daquon Jones who is at the end of the line anyway? They are plugging all the holes so they don't have to draft from a position of need and are able to create competition and depth. 

It's excellent. 

[Mikie2times]

On 3/12/2025 at 9:13 AM, Jrb1979 said:

I will give him credit in keeping the Bills a top team year in and year out. It's much better than the drought era. I still want just one season where they overspend on free agency. 

Who is the last impact player we signed or drafted? 

12 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Homegrown talent is the best talent. Don’t be a hater. 

Based on what? 

Edited March 14 by Mikie2times

[Snappysnackcakes]

2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Who is the last impact player we signed or drafted? 

Based on what? 

Tre White, Matt Milano, Edmunds, Oliver, Taron Johnson, our two tackles, Shakir, Rousseau, and some asshate named Allen. Stop trolling. 

[Whkfc]

On 3/12/2025 at 12:13 PM, Jrb1979 said:

I will give him credit in keeping the Bills a top team year in and year out. It's much better than the drought era. I still want just one season where they overspend on free agency. 

I agree but this year wasn't it. Awful class.

[SoTier]

8 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Who is the last impact player we signed or drafted?

 

Another post, another demonstration of your ignorance. 

 

Signed: 2023 - Connor McGovern

Drafted: 2022  - James Cook, Khalil Shakir

 

 

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Another post, another demonstration of your ignorance. 

 

Signed: 2023 - Connor McGovern

Drafted: 2022  - James Cook, Khalil Shakir

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Tre White, Matt Milano, Edmunds, Oliver, Taron Johnson, our two tackles, Shakir, Rousseau, and some asshate named Allen. Stop trolling. 

My ignorance? You fan boys are calling out players who never made a pro bowl and were drafted or acquired years ago. I mean look at snappy, he's going into the Edmunds bucket. You called out Connor McGovern. I'm the ignorant one. No help for you. 

[Pete]

We need 2 CB now

[Mat68]

15 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Not sure what Beane is up to in FA.  That’s based on the assumption that the strength of the upcoming draft is DE and DT.  
 

I get the Palmer signing. We needed a boundary WR and Palmer is an intriguing option (great analytics vs. meh production).  
 

I like the Forest signing.  Again, intriguing prospect.  Bosa, iI understand in the context of risk - reward.  
 

What I’m surprised at is three relatively big money signings along the DL. I’m surprised we didn’t target  a CB in FA and rely on the draft to bolster the DL.

BPA.  Not having big needs takes that out of the equation.  Draft the top players on the board.  Bolsters depth.  Avoid the getting sniped on Mcduffie settling for Elam fiasco.  Bosa doesn’t stop them from doing anything at edge same thing with Ogunjobi doesnt stop them from draft a DT.  Adding a  high pick to either room vastly changes the perception of each room.  2 -3 deep with quality players is a vast improvement.  

[Snappysnackcakes]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

 

My ignorance? You fan boys are calling out players who never made a pro bowl and were drafted or acquired years ago. I mean look at snappy, he's going into the Edmunds bucket. You called out Connor McGovern. I'm the ignorant one. No help for you. 

You’re all about signing guys to big contracts - other teams’ UFA’s - so I thought I’d toss TE in there. By your standards, he a sure-fire HOFer. Fella got hella money, right? 

Just now, Snappysnackcakes said:

You’re all about signing guys to big contracts - other teams’ UFA’s - so I thought I’d toss TE in there. By your standards, he a sure-fire HOFer. Fella got hella money, right? 

You just want to argue. Wait, did my wife join TSW?? Becky, is that you? 

[Alphadawg7]

Ive been saying this for years and still 100% believe it...Beane is one of the best GM's in football.  I think someone would be hard pressed to find 5 GM's who have a strong case to be better than him, so for me is a top 5 GM.  A Super Bowl is all that is missing from him to cement his case for top 3.  His ability to retain his own, and on good deals, find value all over the draft and outside the overpay rush of FA, and in getting more than expected back in trades is second to none IMHO.  

 

But, to be fair and unbiased, the one area he has not had enough success yet is landing elite talent.  He has found good to even very good players in the draft and other avenues, but his only real hits on elite talent are Allen and Diggs via trade before Diggs was known as an elite player.  In Beane's defense, its not always easy to do picking where we pick every year, and again, he has still found guys who have been good to very good starters for us, so not like he is out there whiffing most the time.  

 

Hopefully we can find a difference maker in the draft this year, and with fewer holes than we have had before and still having 10 picks, this is the year to be aggressive and move up more than move down to go get guys with a higher potential to be those difference makers.  I felt strongly last year that BTJ was that player for us that we should go get if he got within a reasonable trade range (and he did)....now maybe Beane tried, but listenting to him it seemed trading back was the direction he was looking to do in order to get back the 3rd we used on Rasul.  And I get the reasoning, I really do, I mean we had a ton of turnover and lost a lot of veteran leaders last year clearing out age and cap which felt like a mini reset year.  So getting back more picks makes sense and can't really fault him just because a rookie taken before we picked hit big.  

 

This year is very different though...less holes...doorstep of the SB (really a ref screw job from the SB)...team ready to win right now with SB expectations.  We don't need 10 picks or more picks...we need to get some impact players.  I know Beane isn't afraid to trade up, and this year my BTJ of the draft is DT Kenneth Grant.  We need a guy just like this and I am not at all convinced he last to our pick.  Go get him Beane...and then look to be aggressive on the next 2 picks to get a starting CB and hopefully and another WR.  

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Ive been saying this for years and still 100% believe it...Beane is one of the best GM's in football.  I think someone would be hard pressed to find 5 GM's who have a strong case to be better than him, so for me is a top 5 GM.  A Super Bowl is all that is missing from him to cement his case for top 3.  His ability to retain his own, and on good deals, find value all over the draft and outside the overpay rush of FA, and in getting more than expected back in trades is second to none IMHO.  

 

But, to be fair and unbiased, the one area he has not had enough success yet is landing elite talent.  He has found good to even very good players in the draft and other avenues, but his only real hits on elite talent are Allen and Diggs via trade before Diggs was known as an elite player.  In Beane's defense, its not always easy to do picking where we pick every year, and again, he has still found guys who have been good to very good starters for us, so not like he is out there whiffing most the time.  

 

Hopefully we can find a difference maker in the draft this year, and with fewer holes than we have had before and still having 10 picks, this is the year to be aggressive and move up more than move down to go get guys with a higher potential to be those difference makers.  I felt strongly last year that BTJ was that player for us that we should go get if he got within a reasonable trade range (and he did)....now maybe Beane tried, but listenting to him it seemed trading back was the direction he was looking to do in order to get back the 3rd we used on Rasul.  And I get the reasoning, I really do, I mean we had a ton of turnover and lost a lot of veteran leaders last year clearing out age and cap which felt like a mini reset year.  So getting back more picks makes sense and can't really fault him just because a rookie taken before we picked hit big.  

 

This year is very different though...less holes...doorstep of the SB (really a ref screw job from the SB)...team ready to win right now with SB expectations.  We don't need 10 picks or more picks...we need to get some impact players.  I know Beane isn't afraid to trade up, and this year my BTJ of the draft is DT Kenneth Grant.  We need a guy just like this and I am not at all convinced he last to our pick.  Go get him Beane...and then look to be aggressive on the next 2 picks to get a starting CB and hopefully and another WR.  

 

I agree.

Kincaid and Bishop need to step up this year and Beane needs to hit on this year's draft.

Beane is top shelf in my book.