Joey Bosa signs with Buffalo. 1 year, $12.6 million

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Sure he could conceivably be re-born.   I just doubt it because it's obviously not likely after 3 straight years of injuries and poor production.   I also can't get behind the idea that $12.6M is "no risk".   The odds that he becomes the all-around impactful 50 tackle/10 sack 2021 Joey Bosa are probably sub 10%.   The odds that he just gives you 2023 Leonard Floyd level sack production are probably less than 25%.   This is why the other teams were reportedly offering much less.  I'd say he got money that would normally be associated with at least a 50% chance of being worth it.   That money usually gets you that.  Not in this case.

 

Like everyone else I am hoping Beane hits the jackpot but this Bosa/Hoecht/Ogunjobi/Palmer class is 4 guys paid with the obvious expectation that they all would be more productive in 2025 than they had been in 2024.   It feels eerily reminiscent of that 2018 class he signed expecting the same thing.  

 

As I said above (probably 25 pages ago now) it is a gamble that:

 

a) you get him properly healthy - which I don't think he has been even when out there for most of the past 3 years; and

b) when healthy the ability remains

 

I tend to lean more towards the ability (or enough of it) should remain if you can get him healthy. I think a) is by far the bigger risk. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As I said above (probably 25 pages ago now) it is a gamble that:

 

a) you get him properly healthy - which I don't think he has been even when out there for most of the past 3 years; and

b) when healthy the ability remains

 

I tend to lean more towards the ability (or enough of it) should remain if you can get him healthy. I think a) is by far the bigger risk. 

I believe money motivates most. 

 

In LA the last few years he was making a good chunk of it. Why risk the body when it really doesn't play into his paycheck. 

 

Now with a 1 year deal, he is going to be motivated to play lights out (apologies to Merriman) to secure the big and probably final contract from the Bills or someone else next season. Can only get that by being on the field and productive this year. I see him playing through some things this year that would have sidelined him for a few games in years prior. He's got a lot to gain by pushing it as hard as possible this year...and everything to lose by being injured and unavailable.

 

I think he's in for a career year.

[TheFunPolice]

Something I don't think you can underestimate is Bosa coming in here and already talking about playing with Allen and going for a SB win

 

That, coupled with a 1 year deal will mean he will be as motivated as ever before. And he is incredibly talented, he's just had some bad injury luck. 

 

The way this DL rotates guys in and out hopefully he'll be fresh for the big moments. 

 

 

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

As I said above (probably 25 pages ago now) it is a gamble that:

 

a) you get him properly healthy - which I don't think he has been even when out there for most of the past 3 years; and

b) when healthy the ability remains

 

I tend to lean more towards the ability (or enough of it) should remain if you can get him healthy. I think a) is by far the bigger risk. 

 

 

Yeah I think if he can get and stay truly healthy he can still be a force.   As he said, he came out of camp feeling good last season and he then had a tremendous start but quickly got hurt and it hampered him all season.   He's had such an assortment of injuries it's hard to believe that he won't just keep getting hurt.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

Something I don't think you can underestimate is Bosa coming in here and already talking about playing with Allen and going for a SB win

 

That, coupled with a 1 year deal will mean he will be as motivated as ever before. And he is incredibly talented, he's just had some bad injury luck. 

 

The way this DL rotates guys in and out hopefully he'll be fresh for the big moments. 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.  This signing was huge. He's a player capable of being a 1st Team All Pro
 

Without it, our free agency so far would be a poor grade IMO

 

His one game here was a career game for him....  3 sacks and 6 TFL's

 

Let's hope there's a lot of that at Highmark 

Edited Monday at 08:49 PM by Warriorspikes51

[ColoradoBills]

Bosa contract came in.  $5.32M cap hit this year and $7.2M in dead next year.

It is set up that if the Bills re-sign him it's already spread out over the next 4 years.

 

This is how Beane is getting under the cap right now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

[wppete]

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Bosa contract came in.  $5.32M cap hit this year and $7.2M in dead next year.

It is set up that if the Bills re-sign him it's already spread out over the next 4 years.

 

This is how Beane is getting under the cap right now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

I like it . Hopefully he has a great season and stay s healthy and we resign him for a few more years.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:22 PM by wppete

[Augie]

If you’re not kicking the can a bit you’re not trying! 

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, wppete said:

Imlikenit. Hopefully he has a great season and stay s healthy and we resign him for a few more years.

 

Just now, Augie said:

If you’re not kicking the can a bit you’re not trying! 

 

It's not a huge risk, but it sure would be great to get Bosa back to a semblance of his former self.

[No_Matter_What]

10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Bosa contract came in.  $5.32M cap hit this year and $7.2M in dead next year.

It is set up that if the Bills re-sign him it's already spread out over the next 4 years.

 

This is how Beane is getting under the cap right now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

 

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

If you’re not kicking the can a bit you’re not trying! 

Well this is some serious can down the road kicking.

 

I don't think Beane did this in such extent before. We already have almost $30M in dead money in 2026.

Edited yesterday at 08:25 PM by No_Matter_What

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, No_Matter_What said:

 

 

Well this is some serious can kicking.

 

I don't think Beane did this in such extent before. We already have almost $30M in dead money in 2026.

 

If Bosa plays well and re-signs that $7M in dead will go away and get absorbed in the new contract.

Beane could have restructured a player but most of the eligible guys don't make a lot of sense right now.

[BuffaloBillyG]

35 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Bosa contract came in.  $5.32M cap hit this year and $7.2M in dead next year.

It is set up that if the Bills re-sign him it's already spread out over the next 4 years.

 

This is how Beane is getting under the cap right now.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

Bosa at that cap hit is a steal even if he misses a few games. 

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Bosa at that cap hit is a steal even if he misses a few games. 

 

Yep.  But I'm hoping he makes a full season and is in the running for "comeback player of the year".

[Warriorspikes51]

This signing goes from a B to an A for sure with a cap hit of less than 6 for a player capable of making a big impact

[Logic]

Man....looking at Bosa's contract on Spotrac is a great illustration of how creative GMs are able to get around the cap. Mind you, the bill always comes due eventually. But the next time you see a cap-strapped team sign an expensive player and think "how the HECK did they afford that?!", just think of this contract.

FOUR void years on a "one year deal". Wild.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Logic said:

Man....looking at Bosa's contract on Spotrac is a great illustration of how creative GMs are able to get around the cap. Mind you, the bill always comes due eventually. But the next time you see a cap-strapped team sign an expensive player and think "how the HECK did they afford that?!", just think of this contract.

FOUR void years on a "one year deal". Wild.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/18951/joey-bosa

it’s about time Beane did this.  As for the bill coming due, the consequences will be minimal on moves like this since the cap will be going up 100 million by 2028

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

it’s about time Beane did this.  As for the bill coming due, the consequences will be minimal on moves like this since the cap will be going up 100 million by 2028

Not only that, but Beane can just do the same with FA signings he does deals with next year and bake the "dead cap" into those deals by offsetting it with future contracts he does. 

[No_Matter_What]

46 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

If Bosa plays well and re-signs that $7M in dead will go away and get absorbed in the new contract.

Beane could have restructured a player but most of the eligible guys don't make a lot of sense right now.

I know, but I don't think it is very likely. I don't see him as a Bill in 2026.

 

Anyway, after seeing this I guess that I was wrong, and we are actually under the cap even after all remaining missing contracts without any restructures.

 

So unless we sign some other relevant FAs we only need to free about $10M later for 52/53, PS, rookies and inseason moves. So basically Dawkins' restructure might be enough, which is great.

[ColoradoBills]

5 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I know, but I don't think it is very likely. I don't see him as a Bill in 2026.

 

Anyway, after seeing this I guess that I was wrong, and we are actually under the cap even after all remaining missing contracts without any restructures.

 

So unless we sign some other relevant FAs we only need to free about $10M later for 52/53, PS, rookies and inseason moves. So basically Dawkins' restructure might be enough, which is great.

 

Dawkins is about the only guy to restructure that makes sense.

Knox, Jones, Samuel, Epenesa are the next in line and don't make sense.