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On 3/15/2025 at 2:39 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I know it was 28 pages ago.......but c'mon.😂   The Bosa's are some notoriously arrogant dudes.  Not that anyone should give a sh!t that they are because it's ultimately a bloodsport played for our amusement but some Bills fans set the character bar so high and then when they find out they aren't perfect they turn on them.   Violent game for violent people..........and he may turn out to be totally washed but he's always played the game violently.   Needed trait for this defense.

 

I know Nick is cocky as hell and I'm sure Joey is too.  Whatever.  Get to the quarterback and you can steal money from a church collection basket for all I care.

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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I know Nick is cocky as hell and I'm sure Joey is too.  Whatever.  Get to the quarterback and you can steal money from a church collection basket for all I care.

Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.

I'm rooting for him.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase

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1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said:

Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.

I'm rooting for him.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase

 

 

Yeah it's so refreshing hearing a 29 year old player you just signed admit he could be washed.

 

  

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11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

did they want him?  why would they?

They did along with Miami. Josh Allen actually sent him a text to try and persuade him to come here. I’m not sure how much of a difference it made, but still pretty cool.

 

Source: https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/189430-former-49ers-turned-convinced-bills/

47 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah it's so refreshing hearing a 29 year old player you just signed admit he could be washed.

 

  

No need to put enormous expectations on yourself like Von Miller did predicting Superbowls and what not. 

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1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:

Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.

I'm rooting for him.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase


the truth is likely that most jerks are friendly most of the time too- he could be a cocky dude but still have genuine conversations. It’s not difficult to reconcile 

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4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
On 3/15/2025 at 2:39 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I know Nick is cocky as hell and I'm sure Joey is too. 

The bills media piece on Joey came out. Well, he seems like a slow constrained not excitable guy. My wife said “about as interesting to listen to as watching paint dry”

 

I can see his mindset—I have a yr or two left to win it all. Bills fit. He also seemed genuinely happy to be in a football town

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2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah it's so refreshing hearing a 29 year old player you just signed admit he could be washed.

 

  

That's not what I said or what Bosa said. He still believes he has talent and makes a difference on the field. He knows time is running out on his career and he wants to win.

Will he stay healthy and make a difference? Who knows. But I bet the games he does play — however many or few they are — he helps our pass rush a lot.

55 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


the truth is likely that most jerks are friendly most of the time too- he could be a cocky dude but still have genuine conversations. It’s not difficult to reconcile 

If he's a good teammate that's all I care about. We'll see if he's that or a lockerroom cancer soon enough... 

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He was pretty clear “if I can get after the quarterback in the 4Q and help the team, that’s why I’m here”. Stops well short of calling himself the Miller Messiah.

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I remember he did say "I'm pretty good at getting to the quarterback" with some awkward laugh afterwards. This is the 2nd time Beane took a run at a known pass rusher. The difference is Miller came in on a white horse with superbowl rings at age 33; Bosa came in from an LA dump truck at age 29. Miller's buffalo story is that his white horse broken down. Let's see how Bosa writes his Buffalo story. 

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2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.

I'm rooting for him.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase

I watched the presser but I'm a little more cynical about an athlete's public persona after my childhood hero allegedly murdered two people.

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6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

This vid gives me whiplash. First he's flipping out that he didn't sign with the Dolphins. Then he's laughing at us for signing him. Either it's a ragebait account or this guy needs medication. Maybe both.

 

 

 

Why's he wearing a winter hat in Miami? 

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1 hour ago, Since1981 said:

The bills media piece on Joey came out. Well, he seems like a slow constrained not excitable guy. My wife said “about as interesting to listen to as watching paint dry”

 

I can see his mindset—I have a yr or two left to win it all. Bills fit. He also seemed genuinely happy to be in a football town

 

 

Yeah........how many times have we linked the clip with him arguing with fans and telling them he can do as he pleases because he's rich and they're not etc..?   He and his bro are well known to be douches........and that kind of arrogance is not a negative in his line of business.  But at this point, he sounds like a guy whose confidence is about crushed.  While his friends/associates in media were talking about how he has a lotta' football left and just needs to have a big year and get back in the big money game next offseason.........he sounds like a guy who took the biggest deal he could get because he thinks it's probably the last one.  

 

Hard to blame him.  Kicked to the curb by his team a couple weeks earlier,  low-balled on the market,  hasn't been healthy for 3 straight years now.  Instead of asking your wife to analyze his personality ask her to get her rosary out and start saying prayers for his hopeful but unlikely return to form. 😂   

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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah........how many times have we linked the clip with him arguing with fans and telling them he can do as he pleases because he's rich and they're not etc..?   He and his bro are well known to be douches........and that kind of arrogance is not a negative in his line of business.  But at this point, he sounds like a guy whose confidence is about crushed.  While his friends/associates in media were talking about how he has a lotta' football left and just needs to have a big year and get back in the big money game next offseason.........he sounds like a guy who took the biggest deal he could get because he thinks it's probably the last one.  

 

Hard to blame him.  Kicked to the curb by his team a couple weeks earlier,  low-balled on the market,  hasn't been healthy for 3 straight years now.  Instead of asking your wife to analyze his personality ask her to get her rosary out and start saying prayers for his hopeful but unlikely return to form. 😂   

 

I don't know if he is washed or not, he is young enough still to bounce back, but also we don't know how his body can hold up given recent injury issues...but I will say this.  Darius Slay looked totally washed 2 years ago and just had one of his best seasons and won the SB this past year at age 35.  Bosa is still 29 and his biggest issue has been the injuries.  If he can get past the injuries its not at all out of the question he could have a big bounce back year or even a few really good years still.  

 

Am I gonna bank on it, of course not...but a 1 year deal for just over $12M a year is a no risk really, but high reward type deal for us.  So while I was against a Bosa signing when he was first cut because at 29 I figured someone was going to give him a multi-year deal and for a lot more money with how crazy contracts have been this off season.  But as I said in that original thread, if he came cheap, then sure he can always be a rotational guy if need be with potential to bounce back.  I just didn't expect him to come this cheap and especially on just a 1 year no risk deal.  But, like he said in his presser, he wants a shot to win and he likes the football town aspect here too, so sounds like he prioritized that over money and length of deal.

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10 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

Maybe it's an act (I don't think so) but Bosa's presser with the Bills showed him to be a humble guy who wants to contribute and win. He acknowledges he's getting old (not many guys at 29 say that) and that he's not the difference that will put this team over the top but he wants to be part of this team and win it all.

I'm rooting for him.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/joey-bosa-s-first-press-conference-as-a-buffalo-bill-unbelievable-fanbase

Ya i wondered the same , about it being an act. Bottom line , he chose the Bills most likely because imo he thinks this is the defense that gives him the best chance to get 1 more multi year guaranteed contract at age 30. 

 

Whatever the reason,  he's a difference maker when on the field and glad he's here. I do think he hates KC and wants to be an impact in January against them. 

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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah........how many times have we linked the clip with him arguing with fans and telling them he can do as he pleases because he's rich and they're not etc..?   He and his bro are well known to be douches........and that kind of arrogance is not a negative in his line of business.  But at this point, he sounds like a guy whose confidence is about crushed.  While his friends/associates in media were talking about how he has a lotta' football left and just needs to have a big year and get back in the big money game next offseason.........he sounds like a guy who took the biggest deal he could get because he thinks it's probably the last one.  

 

Hard to blame him.  Kicked to the curb by his team a couple weeks earlier,  low-balled on the market,  hasn't been healthy for 3 straight years now.  Instead of asking your wife to analyze his personality ask her to get her rosary out and start saying prayers for his hopeful but unlikely return to form. 😂   

Yeah, I'll definitely be praying for him.

For me, the PC and other videos are worrying.  Here's a guy repeatedly discussing how he's getting old and career winding down at 29.  Brings to mind that quote if you're thinking about retiring from the NFL then you already are.

Then the reporter asks him about his film role and first thing he mentions is it was really challenging because it was cold over there in Ireland.

 

"Trying something different is good."

"It'll be good to focus only on football now."

"Glad to be part of a winning culture "

"It was shocking how quickly things changed."

 

Heart-felt or crisis management mantras?😂

 

Couple that with all the personality of a weathered old board on a teetering barn.

 

Hope Joey uses this time to get his head on straight.   Prayers up!

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5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I don't know if he is washed or not, he is young enough still to bounce back, but also we don't know how his body can hold up given recent injury issues...but I will say this.  Darius Slay looked totally washed 2 years ago and just had one of his best seasons and won the SB this past year at age 35.  Bosa is still 29 and his biggest issue has been the injuries.  If he can get past the injuries its not at all out of the question he could have a big bounce back year or even a few really good years still.  

 

Am I gonna bank on it, of course not...but a 1 year deal for just over $12M a year is a no risk really, but high reward type deal for us.  So while I was against a Bosa signing when he was first cut because at 29 I figured someone was going to give him a multi-year deal and for a lot more money with how crazy contracts have been this off season.  But as I said in that original thread, if he came cheap, then sure he can always be a rotational guy if need be with potential to bounce back.  I just didn't expect him to come this cheap and especially on just a 1 year no risk deal.  But, like he said in his presser, he wants a shot to win and he likes the football town aspect here too, so sounds like he prioritized that over money and length of deal.

 

 

Sure he could conceivably be re-born.   I just doubt it because it's obviously not likely after 3 straight years of injuries and poor production.   I also can't get behind the idea that $12.6M is "no risk".   The odds that he becomes the all-around impactful 50 tackle/10 sack 2021 Joey Bosa are probably sub 10%.   The odds that he just gives you 2023 Leonard Floyd level sack production are probably less than 25%.   This is why the other teams were reportedly offering much less.  I'd say he got money that would normally be associated with at least a 50% chance of being worth it.   That money usually gets you that.  Not in this case.

 

Like everyone else I am hoping Beane hits the jackpot but this Bosa/Hoecht/Ogunjobi/Palmer class is 4 guys paid with the obvious expectation that they all would be more productive in 2025 than they had been in 2024.   It feels eerily reminiscent of that 2018 class he signed expecting the same thing.  

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20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Like everyone else I am hoping Beane hits the jackpot but this Bosa/Hoecht/Ogunjobi/Palmer class is 4 guys paid with the obvious expectation that they all would be more productive in 2025 than they had been in 2024.

 

This is the crux of it. 

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32 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Sure he could conceivably be re-born.   I just doubt it because it's obviously not likely after 3 straight years of injuries and poor production.   I also can't get behind the idea that $12.6M is "no risk".   The odds that he becomes the all-around impactful 50 tackle/10 sack 2021 Joey Bosa are probably sub 10%.   The odds that he just gives you 2023 Leonard Floyd level sack production are probably less than 25%.   This is why the other teams were reportedly offering much less.  I'd say he got money that would normally be associated with at least a 50% chance of being worth it.   That money usually gets you that.  Not in this case.

 

Like everyone else I am hoping Beane hits the jackpot but this Bosa/Hoecht/Ogunjobi/Palmer class is 4 guys paid with the obvious expectation that they all would be more productive in 2025 than they had been in 2024.   It feels eerily reminiscent of that 2018 class he signed expecting the same thing.  

1 year 12.6M is basically no risk compared to Von Miller's contract, lol.

 

Bosa is not humble but has been humbled, I think.  Let's hope he finds that chip to put on his shoulder.

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45 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Sure he could conceivably be re-born.   I just doubt it because it's obviously not likely after 3 straight years of injuries and poor production.   I also can't get behind the idea that $12.6M is "no risk".   The odds that he becomes the all-around impactful 50 tackle/10 sack 2021 Joey Bosa are probably sub 10%.   The odds that he just gives you 2023 Leonard Floyd level sack production are probably less than 25%.   This is why the other teams were reportedly offering much less.  I'd say he got money that would normally be associated with at least a 50% chance of being worth it.   That money usually gets you that.  Not in this case.

 

Like everyone else I am hoping Beane hits the jackpot but this Bosa/Hoecht/Ogunjobi/Palmer class is 4 guys paid with the obvious expectation that they all would be more productive in 2025 than they had been in 2024.   It feels eerily reminiscent of that 2018 class he signed expecting the same thing.  

 

I dont really disagree with this per se, I just think there is more upside than downside.  By no risk, its a 1 year deal that based on the current pash rusher market is pretty inexpensive for a guy who has had his level of production especially (prior to injuries).  I would have hated even a 2 year deal though to be fair.  

 

While I was living in LA, seen him play a lot, and I do think he has ability left in the tank if his body cooperates...but admittedly, that is a huge question mark given the last 3 seasons of injuries.  

 

I am not going to put percentages on anything, but I have seen plenty of injury prone guys or guys with recent bouts of injuries get past that before.  And given its just a 1 year deal, we don't even need him to get permanently past it, just hold up one season...or more importantly, one post season as with Josh Allen here, we are going to always make the playoffs regardless to how much he plays in the regular season.  

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