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3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Von was an animal before the injury. This is my favorite play (click through, it's worth it):

 

 Von had some flashes for sure! Great player!

 

 

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2 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

I like that this is a one year deal. Big name but hasn’t played a full season in three years. We know he can play when healthy. Have to assume with our DL rotation, they’ll keep him on a pitch count. Could also be a primary 3rd down pass rusher. 
 

Just keep him healthy!!! 
 

 

Bubble wrap and egg shells...not expecting much.

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So who will have a bigger impact?

 

Bosa or Cook? Because people don't want to pay Cook close to this much money, yet they're fine with giving it to an often injured, about to 30 DE... with a whopping 13 sacks over the last 3 seasons. But yeah, great money spent!

 

It makes no sense.

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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

Great signing! Potential impact pass rusher at $12 mill?  Seems like a steal to me.  And with the way we rotate lineman, this is a good fit for the oft injured Bosa as well 

 

I doubt they rotate him much since he's very good against the run.

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1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I will disagree with your disagreement lol.

 

BPA. What if on their board its a QB, or TE or OT, positions we are set at?  I say BPA that addresses known holes and weaknesses.  

 

And I like your guy from UK.  Mine is the big DT from Texas. 

I'm re-thinking how I might approach this draft if I was Beane.  I currently already project 48 players for the initial 53 man roster.  There are also PS players from last year that could easily make a run for a roster spot like Shavers, Zion Lodge, and OLs Mike Edwards and Richard Gouriage.  Beane is almost certainly going to add a veteran CB, S and probably another WR.  To all that now add 10 potential draft picks.  It seems to me now that it might be better to use picks to move up and shrink the draft class to 7 or 8 players higher "quality players."

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Just to be clear, I can be a fan of this deal and not think that it solves the problem all on its own. For one, I think that the DL was going to be better anyway because Soloman and Carter will be better in their second years. I know we can't count on that, but players usually take a step in their second year. As for Bosa, it's a risk for 2025 so I get the trepidation, but it is no risk long-term. The only thing that this could cost us is 12.6 million dollars of Pegula's cash. He loses that between breakfast and lunch due to fluctuations in the stock market. I'm sorry, but I don't worry about the bank balance of guys who pay for yachts with cash. With no dead cap into future years, there is literally no long term risk and thus worth the swing. I would be right there with @BullBuchanan if there was a second year on this deal. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Lothar said:

I'd say it's primarily his injuries. It's like McDermott says, "the best ability is availability". Especially if Babich and McD planned to change the scheme to utilize Bosa and Heucht as movable chess pieces. 

 

We could have had Rousseau and Sweat for under 40 mil per - 2 players in their prime for 3 or 4 years feels like a better swing than this. 

 

But I will gladly accept being wrong on this take.

I agree.  However, we'll never know if they tried for Sweat as it takes two to tango.  Arizona is a lot warmer than Buffalo.

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44 minutes ago, Draconator said:

You're making it sound like he was often injured in the last 3 years. In 2024, he played in 14 games and had 9 starts. His snap count was lowered, and he benefited from that with 6 pressures and 1 sack in the Chargers playoff game last year. 

He was injured a significant part of the year, even though he played.

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/joey-bosa/7500

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2 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

So who will have a bigger impact?

 

Bosa or Cook? Because people don't want to pay Cook close to this much money, yet they're fine with giving it to an often injured, about to 30 DE.

 

It makes no sense.

Cook is under contract for next year already, and I think that Beane will extend him after FA is done. An extension doesn't affect the cap until the rookie deal is over, so you can do this so his cap hits don't occur until after Bosa is gone from the books. This has no impact on that. 

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1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I will disagree with your disagreement lol.

 

BPA. What if on their board its a QB, or TE or OT, positions we are set at?  I say BPA that addresses known holes and weaknesses.  

 

And I like your guy from UK.  Mine is the big DT from Texas. 

This is not at you or against you but in my opinion, BPA is over used on these forums.  Because its never BPA.. You go into the draft with your top needs the positional grade value's your board needs. Then you draft..  IF at our pick BPA happens to be a TE by far? are we going to pick a TE? No.. does not work that way.. Just thought I would put in my 2 cents on BPA. 

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8 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

So who will have a bigger impact?

 

Bosa or Cook? Because people don't want to pay Cook close to this much money, yet they're fine with giving it to an often injured, about to 30 DE... with a whopping 13 sacks over the last 3 seasons. But yeah, great money spent!

 

It makes no sense.


I’d pay an elite pass rusher 30 million and an elite RB 12 million.

 

It’s all about market. 
 

Sorry, but Cook is a very good back…not great. Great backs last season were Saquon and Henry. Stats and game impact.

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16 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

So who will have a bigger impact?

 

Bosa or Cook? Because people don't want to pay Cook close to this much money, yet they're fine with giving it to an often injured, about to 30 DE... with a whopping 13 sacks over the last 3 seasons. But yeah, great money spent!

 

It makes no sense.

Bosa…having Rousseau as the only pass rusher that’s a legitimate threat is a very tall order…your coverage better be real good on the back end if that’s the case which ours wasn’t 

 

a dip in talent at RB when you’re mostly running it by committee anyway is not a huge loss 

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4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Bosa…having Rousseau as the only pass rusher that’s a legitimate threat is a very tall order…your coverage better be real good on the back end if that’s the case which ours wasn’t 

 

a dip in talent at RB when you’re mostly running it by committee anyway is not a huge loss 

 

I do think it would be, as currently situated, more than just a "dip" in talent at RB. Cook did some really impressive things last season. 

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Just now, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

I do think it would be, as currently situated, more than just a "dip" in talent at RB. Cook did some really impressive things last season. 

How does this have anything to do with Cook at all? Anything signed with him would be an extension that wouldn't take effect until the 2026 cap. Bosa's hit will be gone by then. 

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15 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

This is not at you or against you but in my opinion, BPA is over used on these forums.  Because its never BPA.. You go into the draft with your top needs the positional grade value's your board needs. Then you draft..  IF at our pick BPA happens to be a TE by far? are we going to pick a TE? No.. does not work that way.. Just thought I would put in my 2 cents on BPA. 

@SoonerBillsFan and I agree with you.  1.  There is no such thing as a universal BPA.  2. Positional needs are always part of the equation.  The Bills aren't drafting a QB or TE at 30.  The Palmer signing also reduces the likelihood of drafting a WR early.  Where the Bills BPA may come in is where a DL, Edge, CB or S with similar grades are available to the Bills at 30.  Who do you take?  You need a DT long-term to replace Jones.  You need a Edge rusher to replace Bosa in a year.  The team currently needs a starter at CB and the team will also needs a Rapp replacement in a year.  So where are you investing your 1st rd draft capital?  We also all know that McD usually doesn't want rookies starting on his team.  

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1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

@SoonerBillsFan and I agree with you.  1.  There is no such thing as a universal BPA.  2. Positional needs are always part of the equation.  The Bills aren't drafting a QB or TE at 30.  The Palmer signing also reduces the likelihood of drafting a WR early.  Where the Bills BPA may come in is where a DL, Edge, CB or S with similar grades are available to the Bills at 30.  Who do you take?  You need a DT long-term to replace Jones.  You need a Edge rusher to replace Bosa in a year.  The team currently needs a starter at CB and the team will also needs a Rapp replacement in a year.  So where are you investing your 1st rd draft capital?  

It's always BPA within a frame. What you don't want is a glaring need that results in a panic reach. That's how you get EJ Manuel and Kair Elam. 

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