NoName Posted Thursday at 12:58 AM Posted Thursday at 12:58 AM I say CB2 will either be EJ Gaines, vontae Davis or Josh Norman…he’ll maybe even Levi Wallace…. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted Thursday at 02:04 AM Posted Thursday at 02:04 AM I’d be calling the browns about their corners honestly. Getting low on options and I think you would like to fill the hole meaningfully before the draft I’m no expert on him but have seen Greg newsome as a guy that mentioned as a possible offseason trade candidate, as an example I’m sure gunner can give me a full work up on him before i call it a night Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted Thursday at 02:35 AM Posted Thursday at 02:35 AM 19 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’d be calling the browns about their corners honestly. Getting low on options and I think you would like to fill the hole meaningfully before the draft I’m no expert on him but have seen Greg newsome as a guy that mentioned as a possible offseason trade candidate, as an example I’m sure gunner can give me a full work up on him before i call it a night I am not Gunner, but I’ll share my take anyways… I think the issues with Newsome are multiple…first he is a nickel corner. I suppose the Bills could move him back outside, but he’s become a nickel guy. Second he is playing on a 5th year option, so not only is the salary high, nearly 14 million for 1 year, he then becomes a free agent. So you aren’t signing Newsome and Benford. And finally, despite all of those issues with the fit, he will also cost a significant draft pick imo. The better fit is Martin Emerson. He seemed like a great fit here draft time, he played corner at Mississippi State where McDermott has ties, and he was coming out as a good zone corner. Long arms, a little slower, tackles..he’s a McDermott corner. However, the issue is he is an also a free agent after 2025 so you run into the same issues. I could see the Browns trying to get something for him if they plan to pay Newsome, because they won’t be able to pay Emerson, Newsome, and Ward. But I think a trade for him is more realistic mid season. But I don’t think the Browns would trade a young, cheap, corner unless they want him out or are trying to get something for him before he leaves. 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted Thursday at 02:43 AM Posted Thursday at 02:43 AM 1 hour ago, NoName said: Don’t forget Antoine Winfield. He was as good as anyone on the list when he was a Bill. He was the best one lol I was trying to make a negative point I strategically left him off 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted Thursday at 02:44 AM Posted Thursday at 02:44 AM 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I am not Gunner, but I’ll share my take anyways… I think the issues with Newsome are multiple…first he is a nickel corner. I suppose the Bills could move him back outside, but he’s become a nickel guy. Second he is playing on a 5th year option, so not only is the salary high, nearly 14 million for 1 year, he then becomes a free agent. So you aren’t signing Newsome and Benford. And finally, despite all of those issues with the fit, he will also cost a significant draft pick imo. The better fit is Martin Emerson. He seemed like a great fit here draft time, he played corner at Mississippi State where McDermott has ties, and he was coming out as a good zone corner. Long arms, a little slower, tackles..he’s a McDermott corner. However, the issue is he is an also a free agent after 2025 so you run into the same issues. I could see the Browns trying to get something for him if they plan to pay Newsome, because they won’t be able to pay Emerson, Newsome, and Ward. But I think a trade for him is more realistic mid season. But I don’t think the Browns would trade a young, cheap, corner unless they want him out or are trying to get something for him before he leaves. no one trades a young cheap corner with years left on their deal - they trade the guy that’s either on the cusp of walking for a payday or the guy that’s not fulfilled that contract they already got. I think that parts just a given with any trade target for the most part Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted Thursday at 03:12 AM Posted Thursday at 03:12 AM 24 minutes ago, NoSaint said: no one trades a young cheap corner with years left on their deal - they trade the guy that’s either on the cusp of walking for a payday or the guy that’s not fulfilled that contract they already got. I think that parts just a given with any trade target for the most part I suppose that’s my point in a backwards way. Newsome is not a great fit here imo, is very expensive and is on the brink of walking. Emerson is a great fit, cheap, and also on the brink of walking. Maybe Newsome is available, but I don’t think the Bills can afford to pay him 14 mil, or would be willing to pay what it cost to get him. IMO the Bills would prefer a guy like Emerson, but the Browns are less likely to want to move him because he is cheap, but he is also on the brink of walking. I don’t think either situation works. Quote
Desert Bills Fan Posted Thursday at 04:39 AM Posted Thursday at 04:39 AM I like the Bills drafting Damien Porter in the 3rd round (trade necessary) as the new starting CB2 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM 14 hours ago, Desert Bills Fan said: I like the Bills drafting Damien Porter in the 3rd round (trade necessary) as the new starting CB2 Don't think he will make it to round 3. I don't think he will even be available at the Bills' first 2nd round pick. 1 Quote
finn Posted Friday at 01:15 PM Posted Friday at 01:15 PM I'm in the minority here, but I favor picking CB in round one, maybe even moving up to snag the best prospect we can. The Bills may not be able to afford Benford at $30 million/year after this year; plus, one more concussion and his value drops a lot. Consider your starting CBs play every down, while the DTs and DEs rotate, playing 70% of the snaps at the most. Still need quality on the line, but in a deep draft, Beane should pick up good players in the second round. If all goes well, the team will have two shut-down corners this year (and next, if they extend Benford) to go with a rising Bishop, an adequate Rapp, and an Pro-Bowl Taron. 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted Friday at 01:26 PM Posted Friday at 01:26 PM On 3/20/2025 at 12:39 AM, Desert Bills Fan said: I like the Bills drafting Damien Porter in the 3rd round (trade necessary) as the new starting CB2 He's going 2nd round holmes 11 minutes ago, finn said: I'm in the minority here, but I favor picking CB in round one, maybe even moving up to snag the best prospect we can. The Bills may not be able to afford Benford at $30 million/year after this year; plus, one more concussion and his value drops a lot. Consider your starting CBs play every down, while the DTs and DEs rotate, playing 70% of the snaps at the most. Still need quality on the line, but in a deep draft, Beane should pick up good players in the second round. If all goes well, the team will have two shut-down corners this year (and next, if they extend Benford) to go with a rising Bishop, an adequate Rapp, and an Pro-Bowl Taron. If there is a huge run on defensive lineman and only a few corners have gone and the Bills have a shot at their ",true" favorite CB, I could get on board with this. Quote
finn Posted Friday at 01:54 PM Posted Friday at 01:54 PM 23 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: He's going 2nd round holmes If there is a huge run on defensive lineman and only a few corners have gone and the Bills have a shot at their ",true" favorite CB, I could get on board with this. I like the idea of drafting Shavon Revel. He's coming off a September ACL, but he would have been a top-15 pick if healthy. Sign a veteran like Gilmore in case he needs a bit more time to fully recover, and you have a shutdown corner for five years plus. Small risk for a high reward. Quote
Desert Bills Fan Posted Friday at 02:13 PM Posted Friday at 02:13 PM 14 minutes ago, finn said: I like the idea of drafting Shavon Revel. He's coming off a September ACL, but he would have been a top-15 pick if healthy. Sign a veteran like Gilmore in case he needs a bit more time to fully recover, and you have a shutdown corner for five years plus. Small risk for a high reward. I like the idea of Revel, but I think they will need to trade up in the first to get him. That costs a lot of draft capital. Maybe use some 2026 capital? Team still needs an interior DL, a fast WR, a Safety, maybe: a LB, a RB, Edge, TE too. would like to see at least 8 picks this year. 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted Friday at 02:13 PM Posted Friday at 02:13 PM 42 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: He's going 2nd round holmes If there is a huge run on defensive lineman and only a few corners have gone and the Bills have a shot at their ",true" favorite CB, I could get on board with this. Agree- problem is they are probably picking (if they are lucky) among Trey Amos, Maxwell Hairston, Azereah Thomas or injured Shavon Revel or injured Benjamin Morrison. Each would be a reasonable 2nd round pick, but likely none of them make it to pick 56, so if you want one better grab them at 30 (or trade down a bit out of the first). That statement is also probably applicable to DT or DEs who might be available at 30 - Bills are going to be choosing from guys who better fit early/mid 2nd round at pick 30. 1 minute ago, Desert Bills Fan said: I like the idea of Revel, but I think they will need to trade up in the first to get him. That costs a lot of draft capital. Maybe use some 2026 capital? Team still needs an interior DL, a fast WR, a Safety, maybe: a LB, a RB, Edge, TE too. would like to see at least 8 picks this year. Revel's value depends a lot on the medical reports leading up to the draft. I would be very surprised if he is picked before 30. I would not be surprised if he (or Benjamin Morrison) were available at pick 56. Also have to recognize that Revel played at East Carolina and hasn't been able to prove his athletic traits are real (speed, strength, agility) at the combine due to his injury - more questions... Quote
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