Video: Keon Coleman explains what he was mentally going through post injury

[JohnNord]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 
ok.

So what are your expectations?  Because I don’t think he’ll ever be good enough to be a starting WR.  He is one of the worst separators in the NFL

[Coach Tuesday]

5 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

So what are your expectations?  Because I don’t think he’ll ever be good enough to be a starting WR.  He is one of the worst separators in the NFL

I’m gonna let it play out - as I said this is a huge offseason for him.  I don’t have a dowsing rod that lets me predict careers from YouTube interviews.  So I will have to wait and see.

[JohnNord]

16 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

I’m gonna let it play out - as I said this is a huge offseason for him.  I don’t have a dowsing rod that lets me predict careers from YouTube interviews.  So I will have to wait and see.

Im not predicting this based on a YouTube video - I’m using his college and rookie season as well as the metrics I’ve seen on him.  Keon looks like a WR that can help contribute to an offense.  I don’t think he’s a good enough route runner and doesn’t have the speed to win consistently.   That’s why I don’t seem him as a starting outside WR.

 

Thats a fair take, is it not?  What do you see?

[folz]

7 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

I laughed when he listed his goals for his rookie season.

 

His initial rookie goal was 1,000 yards and 10 TDs. Before the injury he was on pace for 886 yards and 6.4 TDs. However, he started slow in his first three games and then started coming on. In games 4-8, he had 30 for 366 and 2 TDs---73.2 yards per game. If he didn't get injured and kept that pace (73.2 yards/per game) for the rest of the year, he would have had 1,079 yards and 7 TDs. Pretty close to his goal.

 

Yes, he then added ROTY, Super Bowl, 12 TDs, Pro Bowl, etc. You can tell how he says it that he knew those were harder to attain goals (less probable), and yes, even if he didn't get injured, he wasn't going to attain those goals this year (except maybe a Super Bowl if things went better for the Bills). But, why wouldn't you want your players shooting for big goals. It's not arrogance on Keon's part, that is what is called motivation. Personally, I want my guys shooting for the absolute best. 

 

 

6 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Watching Steve Smith break down his film. He has a long way to go as a route runner. 

 

 

Please stop posting this video. Smith's analysis is terrible. I dissected it in another thread a while back.

 

Not sure if the link gets you directly to my post or just the thread. My post is at the top of page 5 in the thread, if anyone wants to read it.

 

 

And what negatives did Beane and McDermott actually say? "after the injury things were a bit rocky" "I was a bit disappointed how he came back after the injury" "he was lacking a bit of physicality in his game when he came back" and Mcd "wants Keon to show that he has that drive and determination in attacking the offseason."

 

First of all, Beane and McD have done this with young players before---try to motivate them to really attack the offseason. Now, I don't think they are lying about what they said or mischaracterizing it, but I also don't think they have lost confidence in Keon or don't expect him bounce back either. It sounds to me like maybe he was a bit skittish coming back from injury (not unusual for guys to have to get over that mental hurdle of an injury, especially such a big hit). Also, as Keon said, and I have stated in posts before, when you are out for 5 games, the offense needs to adapt and move on without you. So, I'm sure part of the issue was the lack of playing time/targets when he got back. But, he never went Diva about it. He never complained or sulked, he still celebrated with his teammates and picked them up when they got tackled, etc. I think it was the opposite. I think maybe it knocked his confidence a bit and Beane and Mcd just want him to find that fire again. These guys aren't robots---he's a 21-year old kid. You have to learn to work through adversity, just as you have to learn anything else in life. I may be in the minority, but I think Keon will overcome and have a very good season next year.

 

Edited 12 hours ago by folz

[billsfan89]

4 hours ago, dancing_joker said:

Keon noticed the offense changed after he returned. Instead of asking what he can do to get to back to making plays, he kept quiet and let things unfold. The interviewers confirmed this. Not the way a professional at any job should handle that, which is why McBeane had choice comments for him. 

 

This is like finishing your assigned tasks at work, and then keeping quiet until your manager says to you “here’s more work”. You want to make a name for yourself?? Tell them you’re done and ask for more!!

I’m going to chalk this up to youthful ignorance at this point and hope it’s a learning experience. But I doubt the coaches will tolerate this level of complacency for the length of his contract…

 

Hard to know that you should ask for more work if this is your first office job so to speak. A lot of strong personalities in an NFL locker room a lot of rookies don't want to rock the boat so to speak. Imagine your first job is playing in the NFL? College and High School you played football but you are now on a whole different level. That's in addition to managing the off-field stuff that comes with money and just life in general. 

 

Keon's got a good attitude and he's always been reported to be a hard worker. Hopefully in addition to Keon understanding the flow of an NFL season better and feeling more comfortable in the offense I also hope that the coaches make an effort to communicate to him in a way that he responds to. While players have to adjust their styles there is also I think an underrated aspect to coaches having to feel out players in their rookie seasons and make some sort of adjustment to get the most out of the player. 

[stevestojan]

9 hours ago, uticaclub said:

Every time he opens his mouth, I like him less; and I'm not a "shut up and play ball" guy. 

Early contender for worst take of the year. 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Dude's not the sharpest tack in the box putting it nicely.

[Richard Noggin]

11 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Nothing seemingly about it. Everyone who follows the team was/is  rightfully critical of his effort post injury. Personally, I think he’s too much PUNK to learn and straighten his act out. Next!

 

 

Me encountering this post labeling Keon Coleman "too much PUNK" to grow and improve. Bizarre criticism tbh. He's always seemed pretty sincere to me. I wonder if off-field focus/discipline became an issue during his injury recovery. Like the team wasn't going to hover over him and was in fact going to keep moving forward in his absence. Nothing is given. Could definitely be a maturity deficit he needs to confront and correct. He'd hardly be the first somewhat sheltered, small town deep south athlete to experience professional/personal culture shock. I know that's highly specific, but how long did it take a young Eric Moulds to sort himself out? (Obviously he was a different, more explosive prospect.)