wnyguy Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4th&wrong is a self admitted troll only here to get a reaction. He could care less about politics or social topics. This is how he amuses himself. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 42 minutes ago, RiotAct said: what civil rights are being taken away? Please be specific. the first amendment (freedom of speech, freedom of religion)). There's a palestinian in jail for speaking out against Israel. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-student-protester-held-immigration-152740592.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall New York Civil Liberties Union President Donna Lieberman called his deportation "targeted retaliation and an extreme attack on the First Amendment." As a permanent resident (Green Card holder), you have the right to: Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons) Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions Edited 15 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever 2 1
4th&long Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 32 minutes ago, wnyguy said: 4th&wrong is a self admitted troll only here to get a reaction. He could care less about politics or social topics. This is how he amuses himself. Lol. This the best you can do? You post this every other week. No one, including me, gives a *****. 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Dems been screaming about civil rights while talking about late term abortions and prison abolitionism. It's just noise from liars at this point. The state does not provide rights, it cannot take them away.
Taro T Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: the first amendment (freedom of speech, freedom of religion)). There's a palestinian in jail for speaking out against Israel. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ny-student-protester-held-immigration-152740592.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall New York Civil Liberties Union President Donna Lieberman called his deportation "targeted retaliation and an extreme attack on the First Amendment." As a permanent resident (Green Card holder), you have the right to: Live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable under immigration law Work in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. (Please note that some jobs will be limited to U.S. citizens for security reasons) Be protected by all laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions Unless you are determined to be an inadmissible aiien in which case your "green card" gets revoked. It appears that he is being accused of being an inadmissible alien under the following statute. Title 8 U.S.C. 1182 §1182. Inadmissible aliens (a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States: ... (3) Security and related grounds ... (B) Terrorist activities (i) In general Any alien who- (I) has engaged in a terrorist activity; (II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv)); (III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity; (IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of- (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity; (V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); (VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization; (VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years, is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity. (ii) Exception Subclause (IX) of clause (i) does not apply to a spouse or child- (I) who did not know or should not reasonably have known of the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section; or (II) whom the consular officer or Attorney General has reasonable grounds to believe has renounced the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section. (iii) "Terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "terrorist activity" means any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if it had been committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following: (I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle). (II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained. (III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18) or upon the liberty of such a person. (IV) An assassination. (V) The use of any- (a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or (b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property. (VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing. (iv) "Engage in terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization- (I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity; (II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity; (III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity; (IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for- (aa) a terrorist activity; (bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (V) to solicit any individual- (aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection; (bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or (VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training- (aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity; (bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity; (cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or (dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization. (v) "Representative" defined As used in this paragraph, the term "representative" includes an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization, and any person who directs, counsels, commands, or induces an organization or its members to engage in terrorist activity. (vi) "Terrorist organization" defined As used in this section, the term "terrorist organization" means an organization- (I) designated under section 1189 of this title; (II) otherwise designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as a terrorist organization, after finding that the organization engages in the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv); or (III) that is a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv).
njbuff Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said: Dems been screaming about civil rights while talking about late term abortions and prison abolitionism. It's just noise from liars at this point. The state does not provide rights, it cannot take them away. The Demonrats have NOTHING and no one in this country cares what they think about ANYTHING. It’s all wind and will continue to be wind for the next 4 years until another Republican wins the WH in 2028. Then another 4 years of crying about nothing. 🤣 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 39 minutes ago, wnyguy said: 4th&wrong is a self admitted troll only here to get a reaction. He could care less about politics or social topics. This is how he amuses himself. it's all for amusement, dummy. We're not going to change policy here. We could possibly influence some neutral readers but there aren't any that post here. 5 minutes ago, Taro T said: Unless you are determined to be an inadmissible aiien in which case your "green card" gets revoked. It appears that he is being accused of being an inadmissible alien under the following statute. Title 8 U.S.C. 1182 §1182. Inadmissible aliens (a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States: ... (3) Security and related grounds ... (B) Terrorist activities (i) In general Any alien who- (I) has engaged in a terrorist activity; (II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv)); (III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity; (IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of- (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity; (V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); (VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization; (VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years, is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity. (ii) Exception Subclause (IX) of clause (i) does not apply to a spouse or child- (I) who did not know or should not reasonably have known of the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section; or (II) whom the consular officer or Attorney General has reasonable grounds to believe has renounced the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section. (iii) "Terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "terrorist activity" means any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if it had been committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following: (I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle). (II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained. (III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18) or upon the liberty of such a person. (IV) An assassination. (V) The use of any- (a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or (b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property. (VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing. (iv) "Engage in terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization- (I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity; (II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity; (III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity; (IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for- (aa) a terrorist activity; (bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (V) to solicit any individual- (aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection; (bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or (VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training- (aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity; (bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity; (cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or (dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization. (v) "Representative" defined As used in this paragraph, the term "representative" includes an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization, and any person who directs, counsels, commands, or induces an organization or its members to engage in terrorist activity. (vi) "Terrorist organization" defined As used in this section, the term "terrorist organization" means an organization- (I) designated under section 1189 of this title; (II) otherwise designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as a terrorist organization, after finding that the organization engages in the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv); or (III) that is a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv). So which of these activities is he accused of? I don't believe that has been made public. please link if you are aware. At any rate, he's being flown back to NY from Louisiana for a hearing soon. More to come. If it was settled law, there wouldn't be a hearing.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, njbuff said: The Demonrats have NOTHING and no one in this country cares what they think about ANYTHING. It’s all wind and will continue to be wind for the next 4 years until another Republican wins the WH in 2028. Then another 4 years of crying about nothing. 🤣 Maybe among your crowd...but we really don't care about them. Neither does trump, actually.
wnyguy Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 13 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Lol. This the best you can do? You post this every other week. No one, including me, gives a *****. I'm just stating the facts you loser. Go troll another board.
Buftex Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Taro T said: Unless you are determined to be an inadmissible aiien in which case your "green card" gets revoked. It appears that he is being accused of being an inadmissible alien under the following statute. Title 8 U.S.C. 1182 §1182. Inadmissible aliens (a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admission Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States: ... (3) Security and related grounds ... (B) Terrorist activities (i) In general Any alien who- (I) has engaged in a terrorist activity; (II) a consular officer, the Attorney General, or the Secretary of Homeland Security knows, or has reasonable ground to believe, is engaged in or is likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity (as defined in clause (iv)); (III) has, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily harm, incited terrorist activity; (IV) is a representative (as defined in clause (v)) of- (aa) a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (bb) a political, social, or other group that endorses or espouses terrorist activity; (V) is a member of a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi); (VI) is a member of a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the alien can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the alien did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (VII) endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization; (VIII) has received military-type training (as defined in section 2339D(c)(1) of title 18) from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization (as defined in clause (vi)); or (IX) is the spouse or child of an alien who is inadmissible under this subparagraph, if the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible occurred within the last 5 years, is inadmissible. An alien who is an officer, official, representative, or spokesman of the Palestine Liberation Organization is considered, for purposes of this chapter, to be engaged in a terrorist activity. (ii) Exception Subclause (IX) of clause (i) does not apply to a spouse or child- (I) who did not know or should not reasonably have known of the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section; or (II) whom the consular officer or Attorney General has reasonable grounds to believe has renounced the activity causing the alien to be found inadmissible under this section. (iii) "Terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "terrorist activity" means any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or which, if it had been committed in the United States, would be unlawful under the laws of the United States or any State) and which involves any of the following: (I) The highjacking or sabotage of any conveyance (including an aircraft, vessel, or vehicle). (II) The seizing or detaining, and threatening to kill, injure, or continue to detain, another individual in order to compel a third person (including a governmental organization) to do or abstain from doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the individual seized or detained. (III) A violent attack upon an internationally protected person (as defined in section 1116(b)(4) of title 18) or upon the liberty of such a person. (IV) An assassination. (V) The use of any- (a) biological agent, chemical agent, or nuclear weapon or device, or (b) explosive, firearm, or other weapon or dangerous device (other than for mere personal monetary gain), with intent to endanger, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals or to cause substantial damage to property. (VI) A threat, attempt, or conspiracy to do any of the foregoing. (iv) "Engage in terrorist activity" defined As used in this chapter, the term "engage in terrorist activity" means, in an individual capacity or as a member of an organization- (I) to commit or to incite to commit, under circumstances indicating an intention to cause death or serious bodily injury, a terrorist activity; (II) to prepare or plan a terrorist activity; (III) to gather information on potential targets for terrorist activity; (IV) to solicit funds or other things of value for- (aa) a terrorist activity; (bb) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; (V) to solicit any individual- (aa) to engage in conduct otherwise described in this subsection; (bb) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(I) or (vi)(II); or (cc) for membership in a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III) unless the solicitor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that he did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization; or (VI) to commit an act that the actor knows, or reasonably should know, affords material support, including a safe house, transportation, communications, funds, transfer of funds or other material financial benefit, false documentation or identification, weapons (including chemical, biological, or radiological weapons), explosives, or training- (aa) for the commission of a terrorist activity; (bb) to any individual who the actor knows, or reasonably should know, has committed or plans to commit a terrorist activity; (cc) to a terrorist organization described in subclause (I) or (II) of clause (vi) or to any member of such an organization; or (dd) to a terrorist organization described in clause (vi)(III), or to any member of such an organization, unless the actor can demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the actor did not know, and should not reasonably have known, that the organization was a terrorist organization. (v) "Representative" defined As used in this paragraph, the term "representative" includes an officer, official, or spokesman of an organization, and any person who directs, counsels, commands, or induces an organization or its members to engage in terrorist activity. (vi) "Terrorist organization" defined As used in this section, the term "terrorist organization" means an organization- (I) designated under section 1189 of this title; (II) otherwise designated, upon publication in the Federal Register, by the Secretary of State in consultation with or upon the request of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as a terrorist organization, after finding that the organization engages in the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv); or (III) that is a group of two or more individuals, whether organized or not, which engages in, or has a subgroup which engages in, the activities described in subclauses (I) through (VI) of clause (iv). I believe this is what you #######s call "flooding the zone" 1
Taro T Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: it's all for amusement, dummy. We're not going to change policy here. We could possibly influence some neutral readers but there aren't any that post here. So which of these activities is he accused of? I don't believe that has been made public. please link if you are aware. At any rate, he's being flown back to NY from Louisiana for a hearing soon. More to come. If it was settled law, there wouldn't be a hearing. Reports are that he's accused of 3.b.VII.
wnyguy Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: it's all for amusement, dummy. We're not going to change policy here. We could possibly influence some neutral readers but there aren't any that post here. Why red hawk, are we cross? Does this mean that we're not friends anymore. If I thought we weren't friends, I don't think I could bear it Edited 15 hours ago by wnyguy 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 27 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Why red hawk, are we cross? Does this mean that we're not friends anymore. If I thought we weren't friends, I don't think I could bear it Still see the hawk. My dogs bark at it when it circles above. Beautiful bird. A kestrel has now taken up residence. Reportedly ferocious but also preyed on by other bird predators. Perhaps I’ll change my name again.
wnyguy Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Still see the hawk. My dogs bark at it when it circles above. Beautiful bird. A kestrel has now taken up residence. Reportedly ferocious but also preyed on by other bird predators. Perhaps I’ll change my name again. Beautiful plumage.
BillsFanNC Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I'll take please merge with Democrats self reflection thread, for $1000, Alex... Let's take a deeper look at CIVICUS.. https://www.civicus.org/ All over the page: DEI, decolonize, solidarity, pride flags, resistance, etc... In other words, stop calling us commies and here is a commie non-profit that added the USA to a "civil rights" watchlist.
joshypoo Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 52 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'll take please merge with Democrats self reflection thread, for $1000, Alex... Let's take a deeper look at CIVICUS.. https://www.civicus.org/ All over the page: DEI, decolonize, solidarity, pride flags, resistance, etc... In other words, stop calling us commies and here is a commie non-profit that added the USA to a "civil rights" watchlist. Tell us youre a 50+ white man on the internet, without telling us youre a 50+ white man on the internet… Commie is inherently a funny word. Edited 13 hours ago by joshypoo
4th&long Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, wnyguy said: I'm just stating the facts you loser. Go troll another board. ***** you.
BillsFanNC Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago In other breaking news CPAC initiatives don't align with democrats. Full coverage at 11. What a friggin tool 4th&schlong is.
Homelander Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago CPAC Initiatives and Conservative Values, starring Mr. Schlapp and the Tate brothers
gobills404 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5 hours ago, RiotAct said: what civil rights are being taken away? Please be specific. A pro-Palestine protester was arrested and had his green card revoked. Other than they’re just complaining Trump isn’t globalist enough and is cutting spending.
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