Bills sign DL Michael Hoecht on a 3-year deal worth a max value of $24M

[Warriorspikes51]

https://x.com/thadbrown7/status/1899288531022778553?s=46
 

“One of the (many) cool things about new #Bills DT/DE/LB/Nickel Michael Hoecht (pronounced Hoyt) is that he blocked three kicks last year. 

Man has a move pretty locked in here.”  
-Thad Brown

[Warriorspikes51]

This signing seems a lot more valuable now

 

Blocking 3 kicks in a season is insane

 

who knows, he could block a huge kick and win us a game

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, MWK said:

 

Star

Trent Murphy

Butler

Jefferson

Settle

Addison

Miller

 

Just stating facts.

...and ignoring the good signings

[klos63]

1 hour ago, MWK said:

 

Star

Trent Murphy

Butler

Jefferson

Settle

Addison

Miller

 

Just stating facts.

All of those players were on division winning teams with the Bills. Won playoff games as well. 

[MWK]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

...and ignoring the good signings

Daquan Jones was good. That’s about it.

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Jeesh. That's a lot of money. Devil in the detail as always with these contract numbers but $8m a year for a rotational pass rusher who is not an automatic scheme fit? Feels high to me. I was expecting it to come in more in the $5-6m range. 

 

Agreed but I wonder if our AAV expectations are not fully caught up to the new salary cap yet. Every signing for every team today looked on paper like a big overpay. Twitter reactions were nothing but sticker shock today. But I think our brains are still stuck in the 2020 salary cap, even though the 2025 salary cap is 41% higher than it was back then. Naturally the contracts will rise by the same percentage. So Hoecht's contract would be equivalent to a $5.7M AAV in 2020, and that's before accounting for the fact that the reported AAV is almost certainly a fugazi. All in all probably a slight overpay but maybe not as much as our perception tells us. The cap is rising too fast for us to adjust our expections, but agents are very aware and front offices are being forced to follow suit.

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Agreed but I wonder if our AAV expectations are not fully caught up to the new salary cap yet. Every signing for every team today looked on paper like a big overpay. Twitter reactions were nothing but sticker shock today. But I think our brains are still stuck in the 2020 salary cap, even though the 2025 salary cap is 41% higher than it was back then. Naturally the contracts will rise by the same percentage. So Hoecht's contract would be equivalent to a $5.7M AAV in 2020, and that's before accounting for the fact that the reported AAV is almost certainly a fugazi. All in all probably a slight overpay but maybe not as much as our perception tells us. The cap is rising too fast for us to adjust our expections, but agents are very aware and front offices are being forced to follow suit.

regardless, an extra 3 million for 3 Blocked Kicks works for me!

 

that’s a special kind of impact player.

 

If he can manage to block just 1 kick this year and add 7-8 sacks, (he had 6 in 2023) it’s a very good addition

Edited yesterday at 03:33 AM by Warriorspikes51

[klos63]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Agreed but I wonder if our AAV expectations are not fully caught up to the new salary cap yet. Every signing for every team today looked on paper like a big overpay. Twitter reactions were nothing but sticker shock today. But I think our brains are still stuck in the 2020 salary cap, even though the 2025 salary cap is 41% higher than it was back then. Naturally the contracts will rise by the same percentage. So Hoecht's contract would be equivalent to a $5.7M AAV in 2020, and that's before accounting for the fact that the reported AAV is almost certainly a fugazi. All in all probably a slight overpay but maybe not as much as our perception tells us. The cap is rising too fast for us to adjust our expections, but agents are very aware and front offices are being forced to follow suit.

And in year 3, the percentage of cap space for this contract will be down from what it is today. 

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

Smoot replacement 

Smoots done

[NewEra]

41 minutes ago, MWK said:

Daquan Jones was good. That’s about it.

lol.  Wow.  This is insane

[klos63]

53 minutes ago, MWK said:

Daquan Jones was good. That’s about it.

Poyer ,Hyde, mcgovern and edwards , 40% of our excellent oline... just to name a few more. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1899235733736509684?s=46&t=XnJPB0vm-gWk34ikDvnV1g

The more I look into this signing, the more intrigued I am.

 

His versatility is off the charts and he actually produced in every roll. He is also as fast as Keon Coleman. 

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This signing seems a lot more valuable now

 

Blocking 3 kicks in a season is insane

 

who knows, he could block a huge kick and win us a game

for that he will have to get on the field...something that Sean hasn't been good at enabling.

[uticaclub]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This signing seems a lot more valuable now

 

Blocking 3 kicks in a season is insane

 

who knows, he could block a huge kick and win us a game

Didn't Alex Carrington block like 6 one year?

[gonzo1105]

https://x.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1899319506213777776
 

Hoechts numbers are out. It’s 3 years 21 million with 13.5 guaranteed.  Added two void years. I mean I’m not salary cap guy but it looks like a 2 year deal at 9 million dollars with a 4.39 million dollar signing bonus. 3rd year isn’t guaranteed and all kinds of escalators involved. I’d say that’s a lot better deal than the initial 3 years 24 million that was reported. 
 

Add in the two void years and the cap hit on his first year is probably really low 

Edited yesterday at 06:03 AM by gonzo1105

[stinky finger]

8 hours ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

Why everyone hating? Dudes a beast.

No. 
 

Myles Garrett is a beast. This guy is merely a piece that hopefully contributes. We’ll see. 

[Billzgobowlin]

6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

“This was the No. 1 FA on my board for Bills. Such an underrated, unique player.”

 

- Chris Trapasso  CBS

 

 

This guy BLOCKED 3 KICKS last year…..

 

nice find by Thad Brown

Guy sounds a little like Lorenzo Alexander as far as player.  DT transition to LB, wonder if he fits the same role.

[Pete]

PFF #1 ranked special teams player and he blocked 3 kicks.  Can play any position on DL, and is fast.  Good signing Beane

[Magox]

4 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

https://x.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1899319506213777776
 

Hoechts numbers are out. It’s 3 years 21 million with 13.5 guaranteed.  Added two void years. I mean I’m not salary cap guy but it looks like a 2 year deal at 9 million dollars with a 4.39 million dollar signing bonus. 3rd year isn’t guaranteed and all kinds of escalators involved. I’d say that’s a lot better deal than the initial 3 years 24 million that was reported. 
 

Add in the two void years and the cap hit on his first year is probably really low 

Yes, it’s $7m a year.

 

It would count around $4.4m from the cap in 2025 and $7.5m towards cap in 2026 of which  $6m is in base that could be converted to a bonus and spread in remaining year and 2 voided years lowering the 2026 cap hit to $3M.

 

Interesting that they decided to use 2 voided years rather than the 1 that they have been using on a relatively small contract.  Probably because it’s not an extension and there are only 3 years on it.

 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/48007/mike-hoecht

[Pete]

51 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Guy sounds a little like Lorenzo Alexander as far as player.  DT transition to LB, wonder if he fits the same role.

Lo is one of my all time favorite Bills .  There is a play Lo was covering kick against the Pats, with one arm, he pushed one Patriots player into another, and forcibly took out both players, and made the tackle.  If anyone knows the play I’m referring to, and could post it, please do.  It was one of the baddest mofo plays I have ever seen in any football game.