BuffaloRebound Posted March 12 Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Updated for Forest. No idea how 5 draft picks make this roster much less 10. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: No idea how 5 draft picks make this roster much less 10. It is going to be interesting. I wrote earlier that the fight for the bottom of the roster is going to be difficult. I wrote on a different thread that it might be wise for Beane to use 2-3 picks to trade up to both limit the size of the class while enhancing the “quality” of the class. 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 Updated OP to reflect the Elam trade and the Oliver contract restructure. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 12 Author Posted March 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: No idea how 5 draft picks make this roster much less 10. By the way, the Bills now have 64 players under contract. Of those 64, I see 10 who I think don't really have any shot at making the opening 53 man roster. Now add 10 draftees of which the top 4/5 picks are likely assured roster spots. Edited March 12 by GASabresIUFan Quote
folz Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: No idea how 5 draft picks make this roster much less 10. Once again, Beane is trying to fill as many holes in FA before the draft (so we aren't desperate for anything). With that and our current depth, yeah, it will be tough to make this team. Which is why I think this is a draft that we'll see Beane moving around quite a bit (up, generally)---to maximize talent rather than picks. My guess is we come away with like 6 or 7 guys, not 10. The roster is shaping up. I'd still like to see them draft a big DT, another WR, and another Edge, but right now, CB seems to be the only gaping hole. Will we see a FA (not too many good ones left---Samuel, Hilton)? Or will that be our first round pick? Quote
ganesh Posted March 13 Posted March 13 On 3/11/2025 at 3:19 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I think if Trubisky were to be cut it would have happened prior to today both to help the Bills cap wise and also to give him the chance to hookup with another team. At this point would be very surprised to see him cut. They also have a 4th QB believe his name is Buschle, I know his wife seems to be the "class mom" for the team, always organizing things for the other wives. I do think unless White clearly our performs Buschle, could see him getting cut. White signed a extension with guaranteed money....I don't think the Bills are cutting him On 3/11/2025 at 3:19 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I think if Trubisky were to be cut it would have happened prior to today both to help the Bills cap wise and also to give him the chance to hookup with another team. At this point would be very surprised to see him cut. They also have a 4th QB believe his name is Buschle, I know his wife seems to be the "class mom" for the team, always organizing things for the other wives. I do think unless White clearly our performs Buschle, could see him getting cut. White signed a extension with guaranteed money....I don't think the Bills are cutting him I also think Epenesa gets traded on draft day; a potential savings against the cap for $6M....replace with him a 1st or 2nd day draft pick Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) On 3/10/2025 at 4:17 PM, GASabresIUFan said: Extended - 1. Allen (6 years 330 Million - 250 guaranteed) - cap savings? 2. Rousseau (4 years 80 million - 54 guaranteed) - cap savings 8 million 3. Benard (4 years 50 million - 25.2 guaranteed) - cap savings? 4. Shakir (4 years 60.2 million - 32 guaranteed) - cap savings? Contract restructuring 1). Oliver - Cap Savings $10 million Trades 1) Elam CB (& a 6th) traded to Dallas for a 5th (& a future 7th) - $2.5 mill cap savings Re-signed 1) Van Denmark OT - 1 yr 1.03 million 2) Anderson OL - 1 yr 1.03 million 3) Ferguson LS - 4 years 4) Ty Johnson RB - 2 yrs 5 mill 5) Gilliam FB - 1 yr 6) Hamlin S - 1 yr Free Agents signed (relevant signings) 1) Palmer WR - 3 years - 18 mill guaranteed w 36 million (max) 2) Camarda P - 1 yr 1.1 million 3) White QB - 1 yr 1.195 million 4) Hoecht DE - 3 yrs - 13.43 guaranteed w 21million (max) 5) Bosa DE - 1 yr 12.6 million 6) Ogunjobi DT - 1 yr 8 mill with incentives to 10 mill. 7) Forrest S - 1yr Released - Non Tendered 1. Miller - cap savings 8.4 million - dead cap 15.4 million 2. Martin - cap savings 2 million - dead cap 400K 3. Morris - Non-tendered Bills un-signed FAs Hollins, Hamlin (re-signed), Gilliam (re-signed), Ty Johnson (re-signed), Smoot, Austin Johnson, Douglas, Cooper, Von Miller, Martin, Morris Current Projected Roster (new players in Bold) Offense (23) QBs (3) - Allen, Trubisky, White RB/FB (4) - Cook, Davis, Ty Johnson, Gilliam (FB) TE (3) - Kincaid, Knox, Davidson WR (4) - Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Palmer OL (9) - Starters - Brown, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Dawkins Depth - SVPG, Anderson, Grable, Van Denmark Defense (24) DE (4) - Rousseau, AJE, Solomon, Bosa DT (5) - Oliver, Jones, Carter, Hoecht (DE/LB), Ogunjobi LB (6) - Milano, Bernard, Williams, Andreessen, Spector, Ulofoshio CB (5) - Benford, T Johnson, Ingram, Lewis, Elam, Codrington (KR) S (4) - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Forrest Specialists (3) Bass PK, Camarda P, Ferguson LS Hoecht will probably be moved around. But his base position would be Defensive End, not Defensive Tackle. He was brought in to Pass Rush from the Edge. Edited March 13 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
BearNorth Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Saw we just signed Darrynton Evans [3rd time as a Bill] RB room looking a bit crowded. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, BearNorth said: Saw we just signed Darrynton Evans [3rd time as a Bill] RB room looking a bit crowded. Evan’s isn’t making the team unless someone gets hurt in camp. Good to have depth in the organization on the PS with Evans and Gore. This is a deep RB class. I’d like to see one drafted late but not sure that’s likely now. Quote
st pete gogolak Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I think Shavers and Hardy have legit shots at making final roster. Assuming no additional FA signings, WR might be Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel, Shavers and a mid-round speedster draft pick. Hardy backing up Johnson in the nickel. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said: I think Shavers and Hardy have legit shots at making final roster. Assuming no additional FA signings, WR might be Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel, Shavers and a mid-round speedster draft pick. Hardy backing up Johnson in the nickel. Isn't that Lewis' job? Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 Dane Jackson is back. Yawn. Beane please get us a real starter at CB. Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/10/2025 at 3:23 PM, Malazan said: Couldn't you at least have used his name instead of just calling a generic? 😜 Hmm ... Barkley, Trubisky, Keenum, Trubisky ... generic white guy fits the bill Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 36 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Hmm ... Barkley, Trubisky, Keenum, Trubisky ... generic white guy fits the bill After he posted that I thought about revising the OP from "White" to "Immobile Statute." 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/10/2025 at 6:58 PM, GASabresIUFan said: If anyone has the cap savings on the extensions for Josh, Shakir and Bernard please post them here. Thanks Apparently he has beefed up since joining the NFL. He is really a Smoot replacement. According to the Roch Dem & C, he is up to 310 LBs and plays both DE and DT. He also plays either left or right. Sounds like a nice depth utility D lineman. PS. Your welcome! I posted this because I'm very visual and I agree it's much easier to see what's going on with the team this way. https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/03/10/buffalo-bills-michael-hoecht-agree-contract-defensive-lineman-free-agency/82238265007/ In a recent interview, Hoecht said he weighs 267. Quote
Mat68 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 3/13/2025 at 2:44 AM, BillsFanForever19 said: Hoecht will probably be moved around. But his base position would be Defensive End, not Defensive Tackle. He was brought in to Pass Rush from the Edge. He is a 4-3 end. The confusion is he was a converted 3 tech from college and rookie year. Last few season played OLB. Is at 260’s now. He is a 4-3 end. With experience in coverage he will be a part of Buffalos rush package on 3 downs. He will be used in a few different spots to help isolate Oliver, Groot and Bosa in one on one match ups. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 14 Author Posted March 14 I’ve updated the roster portion to reflect the suspensions. Quote
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