Bills Sign WR Josh Palmer 3-$36M

[YoloinOhio]

Great deal 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Great deal 

 

 

This certainly makes me feel better about the signing 

[LLCoolCy]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Great deal 

 

Always wait for the true numbers to be released. 2 years 21 mil sounds much better than 3 for 36. If Palmer clicks with Josh nobody will worry about paying for year 3. 

[DapperCam]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Great deal 

 

2 years $21m is still pretty rich for what Palmer has shown. But you always pay a premium in FA, and we had to do something to replace the production of Cooper/Hollins. Hopefully it’s a home run.

[Mr. WEO]

20 hours ago, BillsFooteball said:

Are you mixing him up with Johnston? Johnston had an absurd amount of drops rookie season (over 15) then last year he had 3 drops alone against the ravens. Brutal.  As for our new guy Palmer is drops an issue with him? Legitimately asking because it appears his last 3 years he has 2-3 drops a season. If that’s accurate, I’ll take it. 

 

Palmer has had 13 drops the past 3 seasons---5.7%.

 

 

[Mat68]

18 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I watched a vid of his every target in 2023.  I didn't see a lot of drops.  

 

I also didn't see a guy that had blazing speed or got a lot of separation.  He looked like an overall solid receiver who can run different routes competently but didn't excel at any of them.  His supposed superiority versus man didn't shine for me. 

He is not fast.  He has a knack for getting open down field. Is also good tracking a ball down field.  At X runs a full route tree and will be able to beat man due to his route running.  A piece not The piece. Slot and Z with Shakir and Samuel playing both.  Coleman big slot  and X.  That is a decent 4.  I expect a fairly high pick draft to add.  Palmer fits a need and also has some untapped potential for more. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Great deal 

 

That is why I never freak out at the initial numbers. It's always "up to" and there are so many ways to get outs. It looks like it's a two year deal that effectively can be kicked to three if we want and then if things are going well but the Bills in a prime re-signing window. If it's a flop, the Bills are quickly through the worst of it.

 

You can critique Beane's player evaluations at times but his contract structuring is top notch

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 hours ago, DapperCam said:

2 years $21m is still pretty rich for what Palmer has shown. But you always pay a premium in FA, and we had to do something to replace the production of Cooper/Hollins. Hopefully it’s a home run.

51 catches 675 yards 7TDs. Zero games over 100 yards. 

 

That's what Cooper and Hollins combined for last year. Cooper's numbers were taken from only his games as a Bill. 

 

I would say if Palmer can approach that it would be a home run signing. I would be very pleased with that.

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Great deal 

 

I am liking this signing more and more.

[BillsFanForever19]

On 3/17/2025 at 9:32 AM, DapperCam said:

2 years $21m is still pretty rich for what Palmer has shown. But you always pay a premium in FA, and we had to do something to replace the production of Cooper/Hollins. Hopefully it’s a home run.

 

It is and it isn't.

 

You have to keep in mind the rise in tide. Joe Marino talked about it on one of his videos. Contract prices in 2025 are significantly higher than they were even a couple years ago. And I think a lot of us are stuck in that 2022 or earlier mindset of player costs.

 

With the rise in cap comes the rise in player costs. Teams having more money on hand means they can offer more in competing bids. Practically every player signed this year league wide had people on Twitter saying "overpay". Look at the contracts handed out to guys like Ogunjobi and Hoecht.

 

If DK Metcalf is being paid 33m a year, then a Free Agent like Palmer is going to get 10.5. Especially if there's multiple teams in on him (and I'm sure there was). And a few years ago, that 10.5 was probably closer to 6 or 7.

Edited Tuesday at 08:38 PM by BillsFanForever19

[Warriorspikes51]

Can Palmer grow a few inches, add about 40 lbs of muscle and wear a dark shield?

 

No?  Too much to ask?

 

 

[billsfan89]

5 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

It is and it isn't.

 

You have to keep in mind the rise in tide. Joe Marino talked about it on one of his videos. Contract prices in 2025 are significantly higher than they were even a couple years ago. And I think a lot of us are stuck in that 2022 or earlier mindset of player costs.

 

With the rise in cap comes the rise in player costs. Teams having more money on hand means they can offer more in competing bids. Practically every player signed this year league wide had people on Twitter saying "overpay". Look at the contracts handed out to guys like Ogunjobi and Hoecht.

 

If DK Metcalf is being paid 33m a year, then a Free Agent like Palmer is going to get 10.5. Especially if there's multiple teams in on him (and I'm sure there was). And a few years ago, that 10.5 was probably closer to 6 or 7.

 

Percentage of cap is pretty much what you have to go by. People make the same mistake in the NBA thinking large dollar amounts are huge overpays when in reality they aren't. The Knicks in 2022 signed Jalen Brunson to a 4 year 104 million dollar contract and a lot of more casual fans saw that 100 million dollar number and were clowning on the Knicks for paying that much money to a point guard who average 16.2 points and 4.8 assists the previous season. When in reality he was the 14th highest paid point guard in the league which was good value for what he was already producing but with upside for a 25 year old. 

 

Anyway the point is that total numbers need the context of percentage of the cap. If you take Palmers 12 million a year (not the actual cap hit but I am just going off the aav total) and you take it as a percentage of the cap it is about 4.4% of the cap. In 2020 cap dollars 4.4% is roughly a cap hit of about 8.65 million. Shows just how in a short period of time the dollars have gone up.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

On 3/17/2025 at 10:10 AM, Mat68 said:

He is not fast.  He has a knack for getting open down field. Is also good tracking a ball down field.  At X runs a full route tree and will be able to beat man due to his route running.  A piece not The piece. Slot and Z with Shakir and Samuel playing both.  Coleman big slot  and X.  That is a decent 4.  I expect a fairly high pick draft to add.  Palmer fits a need and also has some untapped potential for more. 

My pre-draft prediction will be a base 11 personnel of:

 

Palmer - X

Coleman - Z

Shakir - H

Kincaid/Knox - Y