FLFan Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) On 3/10/2025 at 9:46 PM, MikePJ76 said: what is the obsession with the 40 yard time? Expand Good point. Diggs ran 4.42 at the combine. Hardly a burner, yet he was an elite separator in his prime. Speed is not the biggest factor in separation. Palmer is a great fit for the Z role in Buffalo. Edited March 10 by FLFan 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Neat. The one WR we get in FA every year who we all hope breaks out. Maybe this time it'll actually happen. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:10 PM, BigDingus said: Neat. The one WR we get in FA every year who we all hope breaks out. Maybe this time it'll actually happen. Expand What’s his ceiling ? Quote
SoTier Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 8:43 PM, Doc Brown said: Stop with the Metcalf stuff please. I'm still in mourning. Expand I got over Garrett. You'll survive. 1 1 Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) Good route runner, top 5 in separation % and can win downfield. Our offense needed a guy like this. Still room to draft another WR too Edited March 10 by GolfandBills 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) https://x.com/jones11_/status/1899185975273677213?s=61 https://x.com/thebillsguys/status/1899176756273406273?s=61 Edited March 10 by Chandler#81 Quote
NewEra Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:03 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly....you're not guaranteed instant chemistry. Cooper & Samuel didn't exactly click right away. Hope I'm wrong about Palmer but his seperation / td ratio doesn't amaze me. Expand His separation/td ratio? 😂 ffs man. I’m sure it would amaze you if he ran a 4.39. He’s a great separator. He has great hands. He can get deep. He can get open 10-20 better than 90% of the league. TDs totals are tough to control as a WR 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 7:12 PM, Magox said: Yes Yes Yes!!! I thought there was a really good chance the Bills could get him. I’ve been pounding the table for him He gets big time separation m, he is a man to man beater. Im stoked about this one Expand …”man to man beater” 😂 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:11 PM, Aussie Joe said: What’s his ceiling ? Expand No idea, but his TDs have gone down every year since he was a rookie. 2021: 4 TDs 2022: 3 TDs 2023: 2 TDs 2024: 1 TD Here's to 0 TDs in 2025 to cap things off! 😂 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 9:13 PM, Logic said: I can recognize and appreciate the "separation and man beating ability" argument, but... Ultimately, we were all saying "if this offense needs one thing, it's another difference maker", and Palmer simply doesn't feel like that. Now...to be fair...there really weren't/aren't many difference makers available in free agency, short of maybe a Davante Adams. But still... League average receivers who can pitch in 400-500 yards and be effective role players are pretty much all we HAD last year, and so far appear to be all we'll have THIS year. Granted, they haven't yet re-signed Cooper or Hollins, so I suppose from a sheer numbers standpoint, they had to do SOMETHING. But...a year after everyone got excited for career long average receiver Curtis Samuel (and even HE had more career production than Josh Palmer), it's hard for me to get too excited for career long average receiver Josh Palmer. I'm sure he'll play a role. I'm sure he'll have some nice moments. I'm not sure I see how it IMPROVES our offense in a tangible way, though. Expand We absolutely needed a boundary receiver with his skill set. It opens up the field for everyone, and adds some explosive play ability. I agree that we still need elite difference makers. I surely wanted one at WR, and personally I still think Metcalf could have been that guy. But I feel a lot better having this role filled by at minimum an adequate player. 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 7:13 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Feels like a decent signing. That’s a big number for him but he can hopefully help stretch the field. He has averaged over 15 YPC each of the last 2 years. Expand From Ontario, Canada. Big bodied receiver that has really good hands. Weather won’t be a factor for him. 12 mil per seems a tad steep though. Show me the baby 😂 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Ground Hog Day. Rinse Repeat. I guess, it’s a “keep swinging until some WR sticks” kind of thing…. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:09 PM, FLFan said: Good point. Diggs ran 4.42 at the combine. Hardly a burner, yet he was an elite separator in his prime. Speed is not the biggest factor in separation. Palmer is a great fit for the Z role in Buffalo. Expand Modern training has inflated 40 numbers to where people think great numbers are bad lol A 4.50 is fast.. it's peaking at 20 miles an hour... There's plenty of guys running for 4.38s that suck Be get me wrong.. is a guy running a 4.42 fast? Yea... So is a 4.5 and 4.39 We're talking tenths of a second.. if you are a good route runner with 4.5 speed and you're tough... You're probably going to be a good wide receiver because that's plenty fast enough On 3/10/2025 at 10:20 PM, billsfan_34 said: From Ontario, Canada. Big bodied receiver that has really good hands. Weather won’t be a factor for him. 12 mil per seems a tad steep though. Show me the baby 😂 Expand I don't know what being from Ontario Canada has to do with anything though I don't care if he's from Zimbabwe or Pakistan 3 Quote
The Wiz Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:10 PM, BigDingus said: Neat. The one WR we get in FA every year who we all hope breaks out. Maybe this time it'll actually happen. Expand Beasley, McKenzie and Hollins all had their best year(s) in Buffalo. Did they become superstars/elite? no. But to say that these players didn't "break out" with Allen at QB is a bit misinformative. I'm sure Gabe and Diggs are super happy right now on their new teams. 1 Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted March 10 Posted March 10 PFF’s grade on the Palmer deal: “2024 PFF Grade: 67.0 2024 PFF WAR: 0.17 Contract: 3 years, $36 million ($18 million guaranteed) PFF Projected Contract: 2 years, $15 million ($10 million guaranteed) PFF Deal Grade: Average Palmer's signing signals the end of Amari Cooper’s tenure in Buffalo, as he was a trade deadline pickup for the Bills in 2024 but currently remains a free agent. Last year in Los Angeles, Palmer totaled 43 catches for 603 yards and a score, with 102 of his yards earned after the catch. During his four years with the Chargers, he accumulated 58 explosive plays (receptions of 15-plus yards).” Here’s a link to the entire article to kill some time: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2025-nfl-free-agency-live-deal-grader-grading-and-tracking-every-transaction Some interesting tidbits related to our hopes/dreams—the DK Metcalf deal was “average”; the CBs signed likewise “average”; and the 1 year Mack deal they graded as “elite” (guess it’s based on production and market). 1 Quote
notpolian Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 7:54 PM, stlbills13 said: I still think CB is the biggest weakness on the team right now and one of the positions where I have the least confidence in a rookie stepping in. Expand Didn't Benford start his first year? I'm old, I honestly can't recall. Also I believe the Eagles had two rookie corners this year. Their season worked out ok. Quote
Simon Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 9:42 PM, hondo in seattle said: Maybe I'm not an adept connoisseur of wide receiver work but his stats say he's a jag and, to me, the video of all his '23 targets says the same thing. Expand Yeah, I didn't really see any single facet of his game that stood out enough to say "Wow, he's a really good _______" . Not particularly quick, not particularly physical, fights the ball sometimes instead of being a fluid catcher, not much of a RAC guy, not a very aggressive blocker, doesn't appear to relish combat, not consistently active or instinctive during scrambles and his downfield game seemed to consist almost solely of taking advantage of busted coverages. I'm sure there is more that the Bills have seen doing thorough studies, but I thought that was the kind of uninspiring film that looks like a guy who ends up being a 4th/5th option in the pass game. 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1899176981381722492?s=61 Edited March 10 by Chandler#81 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) Hoping him being a good separator plays out similarly to two other signings with that trait: Beasley and Brown. (Yes, I get that they are different players and Palmer is slower than Brown.) Edited March 10 by JohnBonhamRocks Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 10 Posted March 10 On 3/10/2025 at 10:11 PM, Aussie Joe said: What’s his ceiling ? Expand popcorn, WITH the sparkles 1 1 Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.