Bills Sign WR Josh Palmer 3-$36M

[nosejob]

On 3/17/2025 at 9:44 AM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Palmer has had 13 drops the past 3 seasons---5.7%.

 

 

You should apologize for comparing Johnston to Palmer.....or anybody really.

[Mr. WEO]

On 3/16/2025 at 1:08 PM, BillsFooteball said:

Oh wow truly didn’t realize this. Granted I did not do much research but thought the drop issues on the chargers was just Johnston 

 

5 minutes ago, nosejob said:

You should apologize for comparing Johnston to Palmer.....or anybody really.

 

You keep mentioning "Johnston" for some reason.

 

Anyway, do more research.

[nosejob]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You keep mentioning "Johnston" for some reason.

 

Anyway, do more research.

That's once. I thought another poster was comparing him to Quentin Johnston?

[QCity]

9 hours ago, finn said:

If he's as good as people are saying--young, good potential, separation, etc.--why did the Chargers let him go, especially with their thin WR room and this affordable price?

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, nosejob said:

That's once. I thought another poster was comparing him to Quentin Johnston?

You just did it again.  Enough.  Keep everyone’s Johnston out of your mouth.

Edited Sunday at 10:54 PM by Coach Tuesday

[Ga boy]

51 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

That’s more than a red flag … that’s a shot over the bow 💥

[finn]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

Still, he's only 25. I guess the hope is that a change of scenery will coincide with or bring out his potential. I wish I could cite precedents, but none come to mind. 

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, QCity said:

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

 

Jerry Jeudy in Denver vs Jerry Jeudy in Cleveland.  
 

That’s all I got at the moment.  
 

 

Do I think we’re unlocking an all pro talent like Jeudy (1st round pick) was?  No.  
 

I think there is something to be said for effort that the ASS numbers can’t quantify.  
 

Especially if you don’t think you’re part of the offense.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 hours ago, QCity said:

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

I don't disagree with you. A definite red flag. I will offer a couple of counter points.

 

In his 4 seasons he has had 3 different offensive coordinators. Joe Lombardi, Kellen Moore and Greg Roman. They run very different offenses and he's had to learn a new one each season. 

 

Last year the Chargers ran a run heavy approach. In his 3 seasons before that Palmer has had  Mike Williams and Keenan Allen drawing targets ahead of him (Austin Eckler as well).

 

I don't think he's going to break out to put up #1 WR numbers. But if he can settle in and stay healthy, he should have no issues eclipsing the production put up by Mack Hollins and Amari Cooper did last year.

Edited Monday at 04:37 PM by BuffaloBillyG

[BillsFooteball]

On 3/23/2025 at 4:59 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

You keep mentioning "Johnston" for some reason.

 

Anyway, do more research.

Mixing up posts, pay better attention 😄

[FireChans]

7 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Last year the Chargers ran a run heavy approach. In his 3 seasons before that Palmer has had  Mike Williams and Keenan Allen drawing targets ahead of him (Austin Eckler as well).

 

I don't think he's going to break out to put up #1 WR numbers. But if he can settle in and stay healthy, he should have no issues eclipsing the production put up by Mack Hollins and Amari Cooper did last year

Herbert had more pass attempts than Josh last year.

[dayman]

On 3/23/2025 at 6:23 PM, QCity said:

 

And that's the red flag that everyone is going to ignore. They still have the 3rd highest amount of cap space left, a whopping $42M+ and could have easily re-signed him. The LAC front office knows Palmer better than anyone else in the league by far - he's been in their locker room for 4 years. They decided years ago that he wasn't the answer by spending high picks on Johnston and McConkey, and had no problem letting him walk. For all the talk about his separation his production simply isn't there.

free agency

 

 we will see how the fit works

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Herbert had more pass attempts than Josh last year.

21 more in essentially one more game, yes. (Josh basically sat out week 18). 

 

Also take into account Josh sat basically the equivalent of another game to game an a half combined due to blowouts. The Bills as a team had 520 pass attempts to the Chargers 510. 

 

I will note the Bills had 28 MORE team rushing attempts than the Chargers. Again, can be attributed to having the lead late in games more often and playing in a few more poor weather games than the Chargers did as well.

 

 

 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

21 more in essentially one more game, yes. (Josh basically sat out week 18). 

 

Also take into account Josh sat basically the equivalent of another game to game an a half combined due to blowouts. The Bills as a team had 520 pass attempts to the Chargers 510. 

 

I will note the Bills had 28 MORE team rushing attempts than the Chargers. Again, can be attributed to having the lead late in games more often and playing in a few more poor weather games than the Chargers did as well.

 

 

 

So basically we are about as run heavy as the Chargers were last year, and we play in more poor weather games and we both have a star slot WR who will likely be the focal point, Palmer is gonna outproduce the combo of Cooper and Hollins next year?

 

FWIW, that’d be 51 for 660 yards and 7 TD’s.  I’m hammering the UNDER.

[BuffaloBillyG]

23 minutes ago, FireChans said:

So basically we are about as run heavy as the Chargers were last year, and we play in more poor weather games and we both have a star slot WR who will likely be the focal point, Palmer is gonna outproduce the combo of Cooper and Hollins next year?

 

FWIW, that’d be 51 for 660 yards and 7 TD’s.  I’m hammering the UNDER.

The catches and yards are easily attainable if healthy. 

 

That averages out to 3 catches for a shade under 39 yards per game. 

 

TDs I won't touch because those can be jumpy from year to year. 

 

So, yes, if healthy I could see him hitting those numbers.

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The catches and yards are easily attainable if healthy. 

 

That averages out to 3 catches for a shade under 39 yards per game. 

 

TDs I won't touch because those can be jumpy from year to year. 

 

So, yes, if healthy I could see him hitting those numbers.

Easily attainable, except for the fact that they haven’t been easily attainable for Palmers whole career lol

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Easily attainable, except for the fact that they haven’t been easily attainable for Palmers whole career lol

He exceeded both those numbers (catches and yards) in 2022 in 16 games. 

 

In both 2023 and 2024 he was less than 100 yards away from hitting that mark despite missing 7 games one season and two the other. Which is why I said if healthy he can hit a 3/39 per game average. 

 

As a matter of fact when you take his career games played (58) and average out his numbers he has averaged 3.13 receptions for just over 39.4 yards per game. So factually, you are incorrect. He's literally attained those almost exact numbers over the course of his career. And a slight bump in production wouldn't be surprising to me. 

[artmalibu]

10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Easily attainable, except for the fact that they haven’t been easily attainable for Palmers whole career lol

 

The last 3 years he had 769, 581, 584 so it looks likely to me...

[BillsFanForever19]

42 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

 

The last 3 years he had 769, 581, 584 so it looks likely to me...

 

Maybe the yardage threshold of 660 yards, though he's only done it once in his four year career. 

 

But 7 TD's? He's only had 10 for his entire career and his career high is 4. 

 

It's possible he can become more with Josh. But his career to date hasn't shown that it's "easily attainable". And it's not like he comes from a bad Quarterback situation.

Edited Tuesday at 04:12 AM by BillsFanForever19

[FireChans]

50 minutes ago, artmalibu said:

 

The last 3 years he had 769, 581, 584 so it looks likely to me...

3/4 years not surpassing 660 yards makes it likely he’s gonna surpass 660 yards?

 

Let me guess, this is the year it’s likely Rousseau gets 16 sacks because he’s had 6 and 8 before?