RyanC883 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yr 1....4 tds Yr 2....3 tds Yr 3.....2 tds Yr 4......1 td ....people either Herbert sucks big time or there's a pretty scary trend here. And if he's so amazing separating, why doesn't this reflect in his production? I think DK got paid 8-10M more than he's worth and Palmer's getting about 6M more than he's worth. These signings are crazy. agree. total upside signing. And unlike Slayton, Palmar had a top QB. This can’t be the final FA WR… Quote
Magox Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, RyanC883 said: agree. total upside signing. And unlike Slayton, Palmar had a top QB. This can’t be the final FA WR… Very likely will be Quote
BeastMaster Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago This is simply a ridiculous signing that has no upside to it at all We could draft a Josh Palmer in this draft and pay him much less He could potentially get a few more TD's and a few hundred more yards being in this offense, but that's not worth the contract he got Consider me down on this move 2 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Magox said: Very likely will be agree, but don’t crunch my hope! 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: This is simply a ridiculous signing that has no upside to it at all We could draft a Josh Palmer in this draft and pay him much less He could potentially get a few more TD's and a few hundred more yards being in this offense, but that's not worth the contract he got Consider me down on this move NO UPSIDE 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think he will play fine. He will likely have career numbers playing with Josh Allen. But he isn't suddenly going to emerge as a true #1 receiver. If he was it would have happened the last two years on the Chargers when they had desperate need at the spot. I am so tired of the “true #1 receiver” thing 1 1 Quote
Magox Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, RyanC883 said: agree, but don’t crunch my hope! They are going to go defense now, we have 4 major holes to improve. CB, Safety, DT and DE. But I expect the Bills to draft a WR. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I don’t want to read the nonsense likely going on in this thread, but I’d like your take on the signing. Mind giving me you cliff notes? I wanted Slayton but Cooper was my #2 guy - I think it is fine. - He is a player of the right type at a position of need. - He was probably the baseline acceptable level of upgrade at that spot. - He is faster than his combine 40. - He doesn't have an issue with separation. - He probably has a career year with Josh. - But he isn't gonna emerge as a #1 receiver. I think the best case scenario is somewhere around 2019 John Brown. He was the Bills #1 by default but we all knew (well most of us did) he wasn't a true #1 receiver. And from memory Brown went just over 1,000. And that would open things up in the middle of the field for Shakir and the tight ends. That is best case scenario. Worst case if he stays healthy he is that 500-700 yard guy he has been in LA. And he makes the odd big play but defenses still focus on stopping the Bills inside to out and make them try and win with Palmer which doesn't hold up over a season. 2 Quote
RyanC883 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Magox said: They are going to go defense now, we have 4 major holes to improve. CB, Safety, DT and DE. But I expect the Bills to draft a WR. I gen expect the Bills to do nothing at WR. Would like a couple of the WR in the draft but that likely means pick 30 or trade up in Rd. 2. Quote
BarleyNY Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Beast said: This is what happens because Coleman is still a big question mark. If they were more confident in Coleman I don’t see this happening. Competent NFL WR, but not special. He looks to be in the same mold as Coleman and obviously he’s going to primarily play X. So he’s the guy Keon is going to have to beat out if he wants to get reps. It’s up to him to take a step (or more) forward. 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Magox said: They are going to go defense now, we have 4 major holes to improve. CB, Safety, DT and DE. But I expect the Bills to draft a WR. We will focus here, but major hole at S is a reach. Rapp and Bishop right now will start. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The PS kid who had the catch and run touchdown from Mitch (name escapes me). Shavers 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I guess we can scratch WRs from our early draft board. Day 3 pick, take a flyer on Dont'e Thornton. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Magox said: Shavers That's the chap. Quote
Magox Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: I gen expect the Bills to do nothing at WR. Would like a couple of the WR in the draft but that likely means pick 30 or trade up in Rd. 2. I think Bills will go BPA at either WR, DE, DT, CB or Safety. Unless there is a big time substantive move via trade/FA at one of these positions. The FA signing for Palmer I don't believe precludes that from happening. Edited 20 hours ago by Magox Quote
oldmanfan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, BarleyNY said: Competent NFL WR, but not special. He looks to be in the same mold as Coleman and obviously he’s going to primarily play X. So he’s the guy Keon is going to have to beat out if he wants to get reps. It’s up to him to take a step (or more) forward. Coleman and Palmer will be on the field together a lot I suspect Quote
appoo Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Really good mid range guy, but still need a flat out speed guy Just now, oldmanfan said: Coleman and Palmer will be on the field together a lot I suspect They’re you’re two outside guys with Shakir as your slot. Bills need outside speed guy and that’ll make them fully versatile 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Coleman and Palmer will be on the field together a lot I suspect Why? Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: This is simply a ridiculous signing that has no upside to it at all We could draft a Josh Palmer in this draft and pay him much less He could potentially get a few more TD's and a few hundred more yards being in this offense, but that's not worth the contract he got Consider me down on this move If it makes you feel better, I can see someone like Tai Felton and Arian Smith getting drafted by the Bills. I disagree that Palmer lacks upside. I think he can be a 900 yards player in our offense. Quote
MPL Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Is 10 games is 4 years really all that much? He's played in 85% of games. Only one year he missed more than 2 games. my memory of his injury history did not match up with the facts. I guess I've just kind of assumed all Chargers WRs have injury problems because it's always felt that way 1 Quote
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