Reminiscing about the last 5 years, is this franchise just cursed? It's mind boggling

[MJS]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

To me they need to get to and win a Super Bowl with #17. Anything less is disappointing. IMHO

Have you enjoyed the other aspects of Bills success (regular season and post season winning) at all, or do you not care about that at all? Like, in the moment when those things are happening, do you not derive any satisfaction from it? You just immediately tell yourself it doesn't matter unless they win a Superbowl at the end?

 

Just seeking to understand.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I called WFAN yesterday and said that Bills had more heartbreak and surreal circumstances than any other team in all of sports. 

 

I'm excluding 2020, KC whooped us, but while it hurt tremendously,  i and I think most ppl were content,  getting to an afc title game, QB solidifies himself as 1 of the best and future looks bright and 2022 where Cincy just beat us up. Those I could handle. 

 

Man I think 21, 13 seconds, I've never felt that euphoria evaporate like that, Our guy just out dueled Mahomes in KC, had a perfect wildcard game, I mean that game, the feeling I had was like nothing I've ever felt, I was in disbelief,  if that scenario is played back 100 times, we win 100 times , I'm still shocked. 

 

Then Bass wide right in 23, the play before Josh would've had a TD, literally by a millisecond,  Jones drives Dawkins into Josh, slightly effecting the throw. Another just brutal loss

 

And of course this last year, you can go back to multiple plays and if they go our way , we make the SB. And that could be said about 21 and 23. 

 

Just pondering the question,  I really don't know,  I still feel numb to it all and as ridiculous as this sounds I truly feel like there's some curse or bad juju over this franchise,  you obviously go back to 4 straight SBs and look at these last 5 years, we've had more heartbreak than any franchise in any sport. Because we've been legit SB contenders and literally a play away in 3 playoff games, it's so surreal and abnormal. 

I can't even wrap my head around how so much negative went wrong so fast. Yes I'd love an elite edge but we're not a player away, we're a play away. 

 

Sorry guys, it's just so unbelievable when you look at it all, hard to wrap my head around these soul crushing losses, again, so abnormal 

 

I know this topic has been discussed but man it's just unbelievable how much bad luck these guys had, will they ever catch a break? Seriously. 

 

 

What did the guys on WFAN say? Did they laugh at your heartbreak? Don't forget they have the Jets.

[MJS]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

With this regime? Not likely, but with JA I think you always have a chance!

It is never, ever likely for any team. Not ever. Even the teams with the highest odds at the start of each year have a far less than likely chance of getting to the Superbowl.

[PromoTheRobot]

We went from being picked to finish third in a transition year to barely losing in the AFC championship. This team overachieved, they didn't fail.

[Gregg]

Just now, MJS said:

Have you enjoyed the other aspects of Bills success (regular season and post season winning) at all, or do you not care about that at all? Like, in the moment when those things are happening, do you not derive any satisfaction from it? You just immediately tell yourself it doesn't matter unless they win a Superbowl at the end?

 

Just seeking to understand.

 

I have enjoyed the regular season success and playoff wins bigtime. But not being able to get to the Super Bowl with #17 has been frustrating. If they don't play in and win at least one Super Bowl during the Allen era, then it will be disappointing.

[SoMAn]

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I believe if they keep competing at a championship level like they have the odds of them getting one are really good.  The play the Chiefs tight every time, yet the Bills win regular season and Chiefs win playoffs....people love to say its superior coaching, maybe it is....and maybe its a bit of happenstance.  Why does the superior coaching of the Chiefs not work in the regular season?  

 

The other thing is the organization does not just sit on their hands doing the same thing over and over, they do try and learn from what has happened and address things.

Looked it up....it is in fact non other than Josh Allen.

 

Maybe a better comparison would be to include the most playoff wins by QBs before finally getting to the Super Bowl. I'm not going to bother doing the research, but I'm thinking Elway, Manning, maybe some others had as many playoff wins (as Josh) before finally getting to the big game.

[Madbillsfan]

We just haven’t been good enough. 

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

I have enjoyed the regular season success and playoff wins bigtime. But not being able to get to the Super Bowl with #17 has been frustrating. If they don't play in and win at least one Super Bowl during the Allen era, then it will be disappointing.

That would for sure be disappointing. I agree.

[T.E.]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Have you enjoyed the other aspects of Bills success (regular season and post season winning) at all, or do you not care about that at all? Like, in the moment when those things are happening, do you not derive any satisfaction from it? You just immediately tell yourself it doesn't matter unless they win a Superbowl at the end?

 

Just seeking to understand.

It really doesn't matter if they can't at least get to the Super Bowl. 

 

I don't hear a lot of Miami, Houston, and San Diego fans reminiscing about all the great wild card games Marino, Moon, and Rivers played in during their careers.

[MJS]

Just now, T.E. said:

It really doesn't matter if they can't at least get to the Super Bowl. 

 

I don't hear a lot of Miami, Houston, and San Diego fans reminiscing about all the great wild card games Marino, Moon, and Rivers played in during their careers.

Ok, I'm not talking about looking back and reminiscing, though. I was talking about satisfaction and entertainment in the moment. I was just curious how those fans who say nothing else matters but a superbowl feel in the moments of lesser success, like regular and post season wins.

[Jauronimo]

There's little reason to assume we beat the Bengals had we prevailed against KC in '21.  I didn't think they were particularly strong team in 2021 but I didn't think they were that strong in '22 and yet the Bungles have beat the ***** out of us every time we have faced them in recent years.

[JerseyBills]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

What did the guys on WFAN say? Did they laugh at your heartbreak? Don't forget they have the Jets.

Lol well we had a solid conversation,  as a Jests fan , you know major change needs to occur, as a Bills fan , you're a play away every year , pick your poison i guess

[mjt328]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

Have you enjoyed the other aspects of Bills success (regular season and post season winning) at all, or do you not care about that at all? Like, in the moment when those things are happening, do you not derive any satisfaction from it? You just immediately tell yourself it doesn't matter unless they win a Superbowl at the end?

 

Just seeking to understand.

 

Jumping in here, because I feel the same way.

 

Over the last couple years (really after 13 Seconds), my enjoyment of everything else has been severely diminished, because of our inability to win the entire thing.  For instance, my reaction to the Ravens playoff victory wasn't really excitement.  It was a temporary sigh of relief, and I was immediately onto the next game.

 

I mean... I've been watching the NFL for over 35 years.  I've seen plenty of exciting games.  I've seen the Bills win the AFC East.  I've seen the Bills win playoff games.  I've seen our players win MVP.  I've seen our team in the Super Bowl.  Every single one of those seasons ended in awful heartbreak, to the point I still get knots in my stomach when highlights come up from the SB losses.

 

 

Just once, I want the NFL season to end with OUR team hoisting the trophy.  After that, I can relax and actually enjoy the sport.

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, mjt328 said:

 

Jumping in here, because I feel the same way.

 

Over the last couple years (really after 13 Seconds), my enjoyment of everything else has been severely diminished, because of our inability to win the entire thing.  For instance, my reaction to the Ravens playoff victory wasn't really excitement.  It was a temporary sigh of relief, and I was immediately onto the next game.

 

I mean... I've been watching the NFL for over 35 years.  I've seen plenty of exciting games.  I've seen the Bills win the AFC East.  I've seen the Bills win playoff games.  I've seen our players win MVP.  I've seen our team in the Super Bowl.  Every single one of those seasons ended in awful heartbreak, to the point I still get knots in my stomach when highlights come up from the SB losses.

 

 

Just once, I want the NFL season to end with OUR team hoisting the trophy.  After that, I can relax and actually enjoy the sport.

 

 

Having lived through almost 50 years of highs and lows, I definitely like winning and falling short more than sucking and not making the playoffs. If I never see or hear the phrase "in the hunt" again, it would be just fine 

Edited 20 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[MJS]

2 hours ago, mjt328 said:

 

Jumping in here, because I feel the same way.

 

Over the last couple years (really after 13 Seconds), my enjoyment of everything else has been severely diminished, because of our inability to win the entire thing.  For instance, my reaction to the Ravens playoff victory wasn't really excitement.  It was a temporary sigh of relief, and I was immediately onto the next game.

 

I mean... I've been watching the NFL for over 35 years.  I've seen plenty of exciting games.  I've seen the Bills win the AFC East.  I've seen the Bills win playoff games.  I've seen our players win MVP.  I've seen our team in the Super Bowl.  Every single one of those seasons ended in awful heartbreak, to the point I still get knots in my stomach when highlights come up from the SB losses.

 

 

Just once, I want the NFL season to end with OUR team hoisting the trophy.  After that, I can relax and actually enjoy the sport.

I still enjoy the other successes, like regular season wins, winning the division, getting high seeds in the playoffs, players getting awards and recognition, breaking records, winning playoff games, etc.

 

Of course, it doesn't equal a superbowl win. That trumps everything. But I derive satisfaction and entertainment from the lesser winning as well. It doesn't mean, for me at least, that I am content or that I am fine not winning a superbowl. That is always the goal. But I take a more nuanced approach and allow myself to enjoy the successes as they come.

[Matt_In_NH]

16 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Maybe a better comparison would be to include the most playoff wins by QBs before finally getting to the Super Bowl. I'm not going to bother doing the research, but I'm thinking Elway, Manning, maybe some others had as many playoff wins (as Josh) before finally getting to the big game.

That is Elway so good call there.  Josh also has the most starts before ever starting a SB which will continue to grow.   This stuff will get talked about come playoff time this year.  

Edited 8 hours ago by Matt_In_NH

[Billzgobowlin]

20 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

Another example of depending on one player to carry a team is the Bengals. Look at the year Burrow just had, and the Bengals still couldn't make the playoffs.

 

1. Beane needs to build a better roster especially the defense.

2. McDermott's defense needs to play better in the playoffs. To many disappointing playoff performances from the D over the years.

 

If the above do not happen then Allen will never win a Super Bowl for Buffalo, no matter how well he plays.

Realistically, #2 happens they have 2 championship rings.  The roster has been really good and worse rosters have won before.  I think the difference is really winning on the defensive line.  Find a way to win one-on-one battles in big games, and that is the solution.  They need an Aaron Kromer of the defensive line.

[NORWOODS FOOT]

 Beane and McDermott = really good (neither are great)

 

The combination of missing on top draft picks and coaching errors compound and keep us out of the top tier. 
 

Philly - amazing talent on the roster 

KC - top notch coaching

 

It’s a game of inches and we have just not been good enough (despite having the league’s best QB) to break in.

 

And if we didn’t have Josh both Beane’s and McDermott’s shortcomings would be a lot more obvious.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by NORWOODS FOOT

[SoMAn]

2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

That is Elway so good call there.  Josh also has the most starts before ever starting a SB which will continue to grow.   This stuff will get talked about come playoff time this year.  

Another consideration might be the era of dynasties. First, the Pats, now the Chiefs.

Even the 49ers, Steelers, or Cowboys who were dominant for multiple years didn't have dynasties that lasted as long as the Patriots and the Chiefs, who appear positioned to extend their domination for several more years. 

If not for Mahomes, Reid, and the Chiefs, Josh would probably have reached at least 2 super bowls by now. 

A play here or there can mean the difference.

On the plus side, the Bills have remained competitive, even in what was thought to be 'a transition year'. Staying competitive annually increases their chances to eventually reach the super bowl. Whether or not they get there remains to be seen, but if Josh and the Bills don't get there, they won't be the first great QB/team combo to miss out. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

On 3/10/2025 at 6:57 AM, JerseyBills said:

I called WFAN yesterday and said that Bills had more heartbreak and surreal circumstances than any other team in all of sports. 

 

I'm excluding 2020, KC whooped us, but while it hurt tremendously,  i and I think most ppl were content,  getting to an afc title game, QB solidifies himself as 1 of the best and future looks bright and 2022 where Cincy just beat us up. Those I could handle. 

 

Man I think 21, 13 seconds, I've never felt that euphoria evaporate like that, Our guy just out dueled Mahomes in KC, had a perfect wildcard game, I mean that game, the feeling I had was like nothing I've ever felt, I was in disbelief,  if that scenario is played back 100 times, we win 100 times , I'm still shocked. 

 

Then Bass wide right in 23, the play before Josh would've had a TD, literally by a millisecond,  Jones drives Dawkins into Josh, slightly effecting the throw. Another just brutal loss

 

And of course this last year, you can go back to multiple plays and if they go our way , we make the SB. And that could be said about 21 and 23. 

 

Just pondering the question,  I really don't know,  I still feel numb to it all and as ridiculous as this sounds I truly feel like there's some curse or bad juju over this franchise,  you obviously go back to 4 straight SBs and look at these last 5 years, we've had more heartbreak than any franchise in any sport. Because we've been legit SB contenders and literally a play away in 3 playoff games, it's so surreal and abnormal. 

I can't even wrap my head around how so much negative went wrong so fast. Yes I'd love an elite edge but we're not a player away, we're a play away. 

 

Sorry guys, it's just so unbelievable when you look at it all, hard to wrap my head around these soul crushing losses, again, so abnormal 

 

I know this topic has been discussed but man it's just unbelievable how much bad luck these guys had, will they ever catch a break? Seriously. 

 

 

You called a radio show? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣