NoSaint Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM Posted yesterday at 02:33 AM 12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Kupp is a Slot WR. We don't need another Slot WR. We've got Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir (Slot), and Curtis Samuel (50% Slot). Then we have Dalton Kincaid, who's also half or more out of the Slot We need to find replacements for or re-sign Amari Cooper and Mack Hollins. I fully understand all of that and pointed out this issue last offseason but there we were drafting Keon and not adding perimeter speed so now I’ll say I’m not shocked if we bring in the king of the slot with 3 of the guys you mentioned not achieving like we would hope 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: The Bills have a very good roster that should have a chance to compete for a Super Bowl. I feel that this offseason was all about maximizing the SB window and adding impact players on offense and defense. Hendrickson is the only one left and that’s probably a pipe dream. Bills aren’t going to overspent for a player like Josh Sweat or Javon Holland either. In 2019, Brandon Beane chose to spend money on players like Cole Beasley and John Brown to average contracts, as opposed to overpaying a WR. I have a feeling they’ll do the same this season. Maybe a notch above the Tim Settle’s on the free agent market. Not what I was hoping for. I don’t know. You do the full reset and come out with major flexibility because you intend to push chips on the table not to be thrifty Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: so now I’ll say I’m not shocked if we bring in the king of the slot with 3 of the guys you mentioned not achieving like we would hope To do what? Take the guy we just signed to a 53m contract off the field? Even if we moved on from Samuel (he's a 12m Dead Cap hit this season) and Dalton Kincaid - that's still not enough slot reps to make a Kupp level investment for. Unless, again, you want to cut into Shakir's reps - in which case, why did we just make the investment we did? Quote
JohnNord Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM Posted yesterday at 03:06 AM 32 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I fully understand all of that and pointed out this issue last offseason but there we were drafting Keon and not adding perimeter speed so now I’ll say I’m not shocked if we bring in the king of the slot with 3 of the guys you mentioned not achieving like we would hope I don’t know. You do the full reset and come out with major flexibility because you intend to push chips on the table not to be thrifty What moves are you anticipating then? Quote
NoSaint Posted yesterday at 03:07 AM Posted yesterday at 03:07 AM 21 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: To do what? Take the guy we just signed to a 53m contract off the field? Even if we moved on from Samuel (he's a 12m Dead Cap hit this season) and Dalton Kincaid - that's still not enough slot reps to make a Kupp level investment for. Unless, again, you want to cut into Shakir's reps - in which case, why did we just make the investment we did? I’ll stress again the difference between me wanting it and me offering the possibility that it may happen. that said… kupp has always split snaps so a slight shift outside by him and Samuel, while Shakir also can move around the offense…. These guys aren’t all locked into splitting reps at a single location. Quote
RyanC883 Posted yesterday at 03:08 AM Posted yesterday at 03:08 AM 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: have you watched Pickens? Lol oh I have. I’m in Pgh. Huge talent, huge nutcase. I’d gamble if we can’t hit elsewhere on a WR. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted yesterday at 03:20 AM Posted yesterday at 03:20 AM Not to sound negative. I just don't think well be picking up any big names. beane said as much already. My concern is WR being that I think they'll go heavy on Defense in the draft. Quote
SCBills Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM 22 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I’ll stress again the difference between me wanting it and me offering the possibility that it may happen. that said… kupp has always split snaps so a slight shift outside by him and Samuel, while Shakir also can move around the offense…. These guys aren’t all locked into splitting reps at a single location. We’ve already tried this with “think of them as pass catchers” For the love of all things holy, please just get Josh some speed on the outside. Bring in Kupp and teams might as well start playing us no high safety. 1 2 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM Posted yesterday at 03:51 AM 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d trade a 1st, 2nd and 4th for that MONSTER without hesitation. NYG would be crazy to deal him Oliver, Cook, and #62? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM 5 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said: Oliver, Cook, and #62? sure. Then draft Kenneth Grant and no one will move the ball against our interior DL ever again 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted yesterday at 08:09 AM Posted yesterday at 08:09 AM I think I am back where I started before the chase for Myles and DK became a thing. Jevon Holland is everything the Bills need at free safety. While it isn't a premium position he is so much better than what he is replacing the value above replacement is huge. 4 hours ago, SCBills said: We’ve already tried this with “think of them as pass catchers” For the love of all things holy, please just get Josh some speed on the outside. Bring in Kupp and teams might as well start playing us no high safety. Agree. If we throw money at Kupp I will find the nearest wall and bang my head against it until September (not literally but you get the point).... 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted yesterday at 08:20 AM Posted yesterday at 08:20 AM 5 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm bringing in Slayton for outside speed and Hollins and 4 and 5 respectively toss in a draft pick likely in early day 3. Negligence is that we had the 2nd best points per game last season with a similar WR core. We don't currently have a WR on our roster that has above a 900 yard receiving year on his resume. Not addressing that somehow is negligence. Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted yesterday at 08:46 AM Posted yesterday at 08:46 AM 7 hours ago, Success said: I think Kupp would be a really good fit here. What do you do with Shakir who you just paid $60m and the rest of the WRs under contract that also play from the slot? Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM Posted yesterday at 08:54 AM Johnathan Allen, Jevon Holland and Byron Murphy are my big 3 FA targets I would like. Looks like Chris Godwin is set to hit FA, but I still think he ends up back in Tampa. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted yesterday at 09:44 AM Posted yesterday at 09:44 AM I’d like to see some secondary help in FA. Holland or Reed would be nice. Quote
CSBill Posted yesterday at 10:22 AM Posted yesterday at 10:22 AM Hoping for: Something Beane always seems to do well is sign solid pick-ups in positions of need. This takes pressure off the draft, and helps plug holes where there are weaknesses/needs. There have been a few misses, but overall he has a good record. Quote
nosejob Posted yesterday at 01:41 PM Posted yesterday at 01:41 PM 10 hours ago, RyanC883 said: oh I have. I’m in Pgh. Huge talent, huge nutcase. I’d gamble if we can’t hit elsewhere on a WR. They got DK to pair with Pickens. AAron will be behind center for Pitt this year. Then they'll look to draft one. Quote
RyanC883 Posted yesterday at 02:33 PM Posted yesterday at 02:33 PM 51 minutes ago, nosejob said: They got DK to pair with Pickens. AAron will be behind center for Pitt this year. Then they'll look to draft one. I agree Pickens likely stays in PIT. However, in the event PIT does offer him for trade, I'd take that risk. 1 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted yesterday at 02:56 PM Posted yesterday at 02:56 PM 12 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm bringing in Slayton for outside speed and Hollins and 4 and 5 respectively toss in a draft pick likely in early day 3. Negligence is that we had the 2nd best points per game last season with a similar WR core. But they couldn’t get open in the AFC championship game which exposed that group.… It needs to improve. Quote
ShakAttack Posted yesterday at 03:33 PM Posted yesterday at 03:33 PM Surprised no mention of Josh Palmer but given the known options at WR right now, I wouldn't mind him. Good value. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted yesterday at 03:46 PM Posted yesterday at 03:46 PM (edited) 50 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: But they couldn’t get open in the AFC championship game which exposed that group.… It needs to improve. Call me crazy but think our defense's inability to stop the KC offense has been a bigger concern than our offense's ability to score the last few seasons. 13 minutes ago, ShakAttack said: Surprised no mention of Josh Palmer but given the known options at WR right now, I wouldn't mind him. Good value. He's on my short list with Slayton, I just prefer Slayton as think he less of a risk. Edited yesterday at 03:47 PM by The Jokeman 1 Quote
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